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Old 27 January 2020, 10:36 AM   #1
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Ever seen a 6263 Big Red Daytona this nice...?

This particular watch was just obtained and sent in for inspection. Personally, I have not seen one in this condition.

Once I inspected the movement, I noticed that both of the movement clamps were broken and floating around. That is when we decided to have it serviced so that the floating piece of metal would not disrupt the mechanics.

The dial and case is what really separated this watch from other 6263's, IMO...having a completely mint dial, razor sharp lugs and unpolished case/bracelet.
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Old 27 January 2020, 11:40 AM   #2
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Case & dial are fantastic! What a beauty!
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Old 27 January 2020, 12:46 PM   #3
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This particular watch was just obtained and sent in for inspection. Personally, I have not seen one in this condition.

Once I inspected the movement, I noticed that both of the movement clamps were broken and floating around. That is when we decided to have it serviced so that the floating piece of metal would not disrupt the mechanics.

The dial and case is what really separated this watch from other 6263's, IMO...having a completely mint dial, razor sharp lugs and unpolished case/bracelet.

Yes, just the other day. https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/an...iques-roadshow
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Old 27 January 2020, 01:28 PM   #4
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That case is sharp! Stunning condition.
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Old 27 January 2020, 07:41 PM   #5
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Old 27 January 2020, 11:14 PM   #6
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This particular watch was just obtained and sent in for inspection. Personally, I have not seen one in this condition.

Once I inspected the movement, I noticed that both of the movement clamps were broken and floating around. That is when we decided to have it serviced so that the floating piece of metal would not disrupt the mechanics.

The dial and case is what really separated this watch from other 6263's, IMO...having a completely mint dial, razor sharp lugs and unpolished case/bracelet.

That’s a beautifully preserved watch! Great photos! But I also have a question from studying the photos: in the photos of the movement there appear to be some empty screw holes (screws missing?). Is this common with the Valjoux 72 movement? Are some screw holes considered auxiliary or redundant?

As a novice, and someone completely unfamiliar with the intricacies of watchmaking I’m just curious to know. Thanks!

Edit: I included a marked up image of what I’m referring to.
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Old 27 January 2020, 11:31 PM   #7
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Why is the long seconds hand gold?
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Old 27 January 2020, 11:58 PM   #8
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That’s a beautifully preserved watch! Great photos! But I also have a question from studying the photos: in the photos of the movement there appear to be some empty screw holes (screws missing?). Is this common with the Valjoux 72 movement? Are some screw holes considered auxiliary or redundant?



As a novice, and someone completely unfamiliar with the intricacies of watchmaking I’m just curious to know. Thanks!



Edit: I included a marked up image of what I’m referring to.


Although I don’t know why it appears to have open screw holes on the movement, that’s 100% correct.


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Old 27 January 2020, 11:59 PM   #9
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Why is the long seconds hand gold?


I believe it appears yellowish, because it’s white gold. The hands were made of gold starting with the sigma dial versions.


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Old 28 January 2020, 02:19 AM   #10
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Very nice. Wow!
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Old 28 January 2020, 02:33 AM   #11
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That dial is


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Old 28 January 2020, 02:41 AM   #12
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Nice! Too bad it doesn't have a bracelet
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Old 28 January 2020, 02:41 AM   #13
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That’s a beautifully preserved watch! Great photos! But I also have a question from studying the photos: in the photos of the movement there appear to be some empty screw holes (screws missing?). Is this common with the Valjoux 72 movement? Are some screw holes considered auxiliary or redundant?

As a novice, and someone completely unfamiliar with the intricacies of watchmaking I’m just curious to know. Thanks!

Edit: I included a marked up image of what I’m referring to.
At least one of the circled areas is another place where there can be a movement clamp to secure it to the case. Although Rolex never used that particular one, I am sure other watch companies who used that movement did.
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Old 28 January 2020, 02:49 AM   #14
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Why is the long seconds hand gold?
It is actually a gun smoke black, but in certain angles you can see where the coating is thinning.
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Old 28 January 2020, 02:57 AM   #15
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Nice! Too bad it doesn't have a bracelet
Indeed it does.
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Old 28 January 2020, 03:02 AM   #16
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Nice! Too bad it doesn't have a bracelet


It has the original unpolished bracelet with all 13 links and correct clasp code for the serial/year. Entire watch and bracelet acquired in all original, unmolested condition.


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Old 28 January 2020, 05:26 AM   #17
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How long does it take to service this? Just wondering but I've heard a price before for the service from Rolex itself. Is it a lot or ... (do I have to PM)?
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Old 28 January 2020, 07:41 AM   #18
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Wow a beauty !
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Old 28 January 2020, 08:40 AM   #19
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Ever seen a 6263 Big Red Daytona this nice...?

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That is an amazing piece and story, yet different from the thread subject. Although also a ref. 6263, it’s a PN and this is a Big Red.

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Old 28 January 2020, 03:40 PM   #20
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Old 19 February 2020, 11:18 PM   #21
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This particular watch was just obtained and sent in for inspection. Personally, I have not seen one in this condition.

Once I inspected the movement, I noticed that both of the movement clamps were broken and floating around. That is when we decided to have it serviced so that the floating piece of metal would not disrupt the mechanics.

The dial and case is what really separated this watch from other 6263's, IMO...having a completely mint dial, razor sharp lugs and unpolished case/bracelet.
WOW, crazy nice...

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Old 19 February 2020, 11:35 PM   #22
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First of all, yes, I have seen a 6263 Big Red as nice! You serviced it! (Just kidding, kind of).

Question: What is the beginning of the serial number of this 6263? I notice that the dial seems more silvery than mine. My dial is more of a cream ivory, although some of that could be the aging process.

I've been trying to pin down information on late '70s 6263s with cream dials (as opposed to more silvery dials). There is definitely a difference, but there's not a lot written about it online, not that I can find anyway.
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Old 20 February 2020, 08:21 AM   #23
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Ever seen a 6263 Big Red Daytona this nice...?

Indeed, feel very fortunate to have acquired this 6263. All original, unpolished, mint condition as confirmed by Mr. Ridley.



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Wow. That is immaculate. Thanks for sharing, Phillip!

Missed seeing this thread the first time around.
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Old 20 February 2020, 09:27 AM   #25
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Outstanding photos. Thanks for sharing.

I like to forget that I had the chance to buy a mint one of these at 15 grand USD in the days when that was the going price. And turned it down because I thought it was overpriced.
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First of all, yes, I have seen a 6263 Big Red as nice! You serviced it! (Just kidding, kind of).

Question: What is the beginning of the serial number of this 6263? I notice that the dial seems more silvery than mine. My dial is more of a cream ivory, although some of that could be the aging process.

I've been trying to pin down information on late '70s 6263s with cream dials (as opposed to more silvery dials). There is definitely a difference, but there's not a lot written about it online, not that I can find anyway.
Aaron, what a great pic! That dial is just gorgeous! It would make me happy to know it’s all original with papers, just to know such a great example exists.
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Outstanding photos. Thanks for sharing.

I like to forget that I had the chance to buy a mint one of these at 15 grand USD in the days when that was the going price. And turned it down because I thought it was overpriced.


Thanks. For sure hindsight can be frustrating with this passion. Here’s a pic in ambient, later afternoon light with the original blemished crystal. I still have it in my possession and had a NOS crystal put on by Phil, to ensure everything is tightly sealed for solid integrity and preservation.
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Aaron, what a great pic! That dial is just gorgeous! It would make me happy to know it’s all original with papers, just to know such a great example exists.
Many thanks! As a matter of fact, it is a full set, with the original punched papers, some Rolex service paperwork (just for end links), and some other tidbits.
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Many thanks! As a matter of fact, it is a full set, with the original punched papers, some Rolex service paperwork (just for end links), and some other tidbits.
So nice to see such a gorgeous watch with the complete package! What a special piece to wear, enjoy and admire! Please keep me in mind if you ever consider moving it out of your collection.
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I love reading threads like these, some really stunning condition 6263’s on here.
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