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Old 14 February 2020, 02:10 PM   #1
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Tudor Blue Pelagos arrival with a niggling complaint

alright so the watch arrived Tuesday, and i figured i'd live with it a couple of days before posting (plus i hoped i would have my photo cabinet back up by now)

Was looking at it this afternoon and noticed the pearl in the bezel insert was rather small compared to other diver's pearls. Then got to looking at it real close and it's not even a real pearl, it's part of the silk screening on the insert, so it's a faux pearl. I mean really?? What do these luminova pearls cost them, maybe $1 - maybe $2?

I'm sure someone has already posted about this, but i kind of needed to vent. I've actually toyed with the idea of having the insert drilled and installing a real pearl. But i didn't buy this watch to re-manufacture it. Don't get me wrong, i still like the watch, it's just an irritating dis-appointment. But it makes me wonder - what's next - are they going to engrave the image of a gas escape valve on the side of the case to give the illusion of one on the next model?



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Old 14 February 2020, 02:51 PM   #2
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What? No. The whole darned thing glows. Hit it with a UV light and report back. Maybe your outlook will improve.

And this isn't a vintage watch. lol

Congrats no less. The Pelagos is a great watch.
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Old 14 February 2020, 02:54 PM   #3
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Old 14 February 2020, 03:33 PM   #4
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I think you’d probably get a better audience for venting if this was posted in the General Forum, rather than the Vintage Forum.
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Old 14 February 2020, 05:04 PM   #5
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I prefer it the way it is. A flush pip works well with the matte lumped ceramic bezel.

It seems you would have noticed this before purchasing.
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Old 14 February 2020, 05:35 PM   #6
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This image from Tudor's own site might help.

I think you'll find this superior to the traditional "pip". It's not a silkscreen. They're individual luminous pieces fitted in the ceramic insert.

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alright so the watch arrived Tuesday, and i figured i'd live with it a couple of days before posting (plus i hoped i would have my photo cabinet back up by now)

Was looking at it this afternoon and noticed the pearl in the bezel insert was rather small compared to other diver's pearls. Then got to looking at it real close and it's not even a real pearl, it's part of the silk screening on the insert, so it's a faux pearl. I mean really?? What do these luminova pearls cost them, maybe $1 - maybe $2?

I'm sure someone has already posted about this, but i kind of needed to vent. I've actually toyed with the idea of having the insert drilled and installing a real pearl. But i didn't buy this watch to re-manufacture it. Don't get me wrong, i still like the watch, it's just an irritating dis-appointment. But it makes me wonder - what's next - are they going to engrave the image of a gas escape valve on the side of the case to give the illusion of one on the next model?



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I'm British and I normally get Irony, You're joking, right?

I've just re read your post. Still not sure you are I don't think you are are you?
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Old 14 February 2020, 06:04 PM   #8
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I didn't realise there was any confusion about it being a real pearl, and actually prefer the "pearl homage" of the bezel design!
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Old 14 February 2020, 06:24 PM   #9
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Hi Larry,

In all the pix I have seen the ‘pip’ looks like painted lume.

Seems you were not aware of this?

I don’t see how this can be a complaint?

It’s a nice watch, enjoy wearing it.

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Old 14 February 2020, 07:12 PM   #10
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Sorry mate you lost me at "silly screening". Either you have a sense of humor/irony we're not getting, or you have no idea what you've got.
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Old 14 February 2020, 08:08 PM   #11
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Sorry mate you lost me at "silly screening". Either you have a sense of humor/irony we're not getting, or you have no idea what you've got.
He said "silk screening." It's a technique for transferring inked images onto surfaces. He may have been mistaken, but he wasn't joking.

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Good grief man did you buy the watch blindfolded. For a Dive watch it seems to be a rather good solution to the pearl being knocked off underwater thus rendering it useless for its task.
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Old 14 February 2020, 08:46 PM   #13
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The Pelagos solution may be better than a pearl, but it’s not what Rolex does on their dive bezels. Is that why you are upset? And the best part is you attributed the motive behind what Tudor did to cost cutting. Seems like you should have bought a Rolex instead.
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Old 14 February 2020, 08:48 PM   #14
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I dented the pearl on my submariner within a week! The Pelagos is perfect enjoy it


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Why should this model have the pearl. I don’t see it fit with the design at all.


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alright so the watch arrived Tuesday, and i figured i'd live with it a couple of days before posting (plus i hoped i would have my photo cabinet back up by now)

Was looking at it this afternoon and noticed the pearl in the bezel insert was rather small compared to other diver's pearls. Then got to looking at it real close and it's not even a real pearl, it's part of the silk screening on the insert, so it's a faux pearl. I mean really?? What do these luminova pearls cost them, maybe $1 - maybe $2?

I'm sure someone has already posted about this, but i kind of needed to vent. I've actually toyed with the idea of having the insert drilled and installing a real pearl. But i didn't buy this watch to re-manufacture it. Don't get me wrong, i still like the watch, it's just an irritating dis-appointment. But it makes me wonder - what's next - are they going to engrave the image of a gas escape valve on the side of the case to give the illusion of one on the next model?



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All the so called pearl on all Rolex watches is just a blob of lume paint covered in a sapphire dome.
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Great watch. The design elements are unique to the Pelagos. Enjoy.
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Old 14 February 2020, 10:18 PM   #18
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He said "silk screening." It's a technique for transferring inked images onto surfaces. He may have been mistaken, but he wasn't joking.

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Having worked in the fashion industry for 3 decades I'm fully aware what silk screening is.
Which is why I think he has no idea what he's complaining about.
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Old 14 February 2020, 10:20 PM   #19
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I prefer it the way it is..looks amazing
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Old 14 February 2020, 10:21 PM   #20
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I've never seen a Pelagos in person, but since it's introduction it's had the same bezel lume. I never for a second thought it was a separate "pearl" in the lumed triangle/pip combo at 12 o'clock. As many pips as I've personally knocked off different dive watches, I would welcome that flat profile.
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Old 14 February 2020, 10:41 PM   #21
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it’s a sick watch, the pip can’t fall out, it’s hugely visible and can’t catch on anything.

i see nothing to complain about. love my pelagos.
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Old 14 February 2020, 10:46 PM   #23
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The Pelagos solution may be better than a pearl, but it’s not what Rolex does on their dive bezels. Is that why you are upset? And the best part is you attributed the motive behind what Tudor did to cost cutting. Seems like you should have bought a Rolex instead.
sorry bud, but a painted on pearl i don't view as a solution or improvement in any sense of the word. A painted on luminova "pearl" is a cost cutting measure plain & simple. Tell me how you replace it when the painted on faux luminova "pearl" has died other than to replace the bezel insert? And yeah it glows but not nearly as bright as a pearl - and will be degraded from any abrasive contact, much easier than a real pearl.

Yeah, i bear some of the fault for not having gone over the watch with a loupe when looking at it in the store so I do feel some anger at myself for not thinking to adding "check the pearl carefully" to my checklist when viewing even a new watch.

Y'all's defense of it, though, seems purely subjective like it's a given that it's an improvement. And that's an assumption that isn't borne out factually. Since this is so innovative, i'll wait to see if Rolex adopts it. If Rolex doesn't, which i really don't expect them to, ..... that will say something in itself.
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a pelagos costs half what a submariner does.

and has an arguably better bracelet.

but sure does sound like you should’ve bought a submariner.

*shrug*
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so if anyone disagrees or complains about an "innovation" that is not an improvement he should have bought a rolex. Jeez, $100 Seikos have pearls.

This was not an improvement....no matter how much someone.pretends it is.
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A valid complaint would be some sort of defect with the watch.

Not understanding what you were buying is 100% on you, not "some of the fault."

If you don't like it, sell it and move on. Venting to the internet and then arguing with the replies you get is not the solution.
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If you wanted a pearl it would have been advisable to buy a watch with a pearl in it and not a Pelagos. It seems you are angry that you overlooked this. I can understand that. But past that, huh?
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No, not angray - as my orig post's title said, a niggling complaint, irritating
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but it’s designed specifically NOT TO HAVE A PEARL.



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Tell me how you replace it when the painted on faux luminova "pearl" has died other than to replace the bezel insert? And yeah it glows but not nearly as bright as a pearl - and will be degraded from any abrasive contact, much easier than a real pearl.
As if Rolex would let you replace just the Pearl pip without replacing the entire ceramic bezel insert?

Technically, the entire bezel of the Pelagos, not just the dot in the middle, glows to indicate diving time elapsed. So I really don't get your argument that "it glows but not nearly as bright as a pearl ."

Just saying.
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