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Old 25 June 2020, 12:39 PM   #1
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Uncomfortable 116610 !

So it's been pretty hot here in the UK the last couple of days, not to mention, very humid!

I've been wearing my 116610 this week.
I wear it pretty snug and above the wrist bone, as I don't like my watches flopping about my wrist or the crown hitting the back of my hand.

However, after my wrist gets a bit sweaty the watch becomes pretty top heavy and starts falling below the wrist bone and crown starts digging in to my hand.
I find this a bit annoying, and have never had this issue with my Omegas.

I read a lot on here how people find the Sub ceramic the most comfortable watch and they hardly notice it on their wrist half the time.
Does anyone suffer the same problem as me?

I'm thinking it could be because of the thicker case back, the way it sits on the wrist, the watch is not as planted, hence it starts moving when it gets moist.
It's kind of killing my enjoyment of the watch.

Any ideas?
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Old 25 June 2020, 12:46 PM   #2
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I have not run into that issue myself as I tend to wear mine more on the loose side. Mine usually gets snagged on my skin by the bottom of the clasp. It sticks while the watch itself pulls down towards my hand. I have to unstick it sometimes.

If I were you, I’d just play around with the sizing. One of the best parts about our watch is the adjustable clasp. Play around with that for a while until you find the size that hopefully fixes the issue.


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Old 25 June 2020, 01:11 PM   #3
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Fit of six digit subs is highly dependent on bracelet link setting relative to the Glidelock “notches.” Call it a conspiracy theory, but the tail end of the inner clasp can affect the geometry of how the bracelet fits depending on link arrangement and the Glidelock setting. There’s basically only one spot I can get a perfect fit.

YMMV, but it’s worth reading up on bracelet adjustment for this particular piece- there’s a lot of good info on the forum that can be found with some searching. Hot and humid weather will certainly require opening up the Glidelock a notch or so from your typical setting. It’s unlikely to fit perfectly in all scenarios, at least that’s my experience with my particular wrist shape (flat/wide) and diameter (7”). Make sure the six o’clock side is sized properly- most have too many links.
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Old 25 June 2020, 05:25 PM   #4
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I wore mine in various climates, including well over 40C, with no issues. Have you played around with the glidelock clasp, as others have suggested? If this doesn't help, perhaps check out bracelet link settings as mentioned above. You should be able to dial-in a good fit with a bit of experimentation.
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Old 25 June 2020, 05:33 PM   #5
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I notice this on my 114060 until I swapped a few links around and moved the clasp more towards the 6.
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Old 25 June 2020, 05:38 PM   #6
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If you wear it quite snug I’m surprised it managed to slip down

I’ve got the opposite problem. In this heat the wrist swells so much the watch becomes tight and I hate that. That’s on watches without the wonderful glide lock system

When I’m wearing my newer subs that’s what I use and I normally always adjust the glide lock in the afternoon, in my case looser.

So why don’t you make the bracelet tighter to stop it moving? I’d also make sure the clasp is centred on your wrist. I find it stops it spinning around. I’m normally 60/40 on the links with more on the 12 side.
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Old 25 June 2020, 05:41 PM   #7
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Fit of six digit subs is highly dependent on bracelet link setting relative to the Glidelock “notches.” Call it a conspiracy theory, but the tail end of the inner clasp can affect the geometry of how the bracelet fits depending on link arrangement and the Glidelock setting. There’s basically only one spot I can get a perfect fit.
This is rarely discussed but a very good point.

Look at the inner part of the clasp and where it sits on your wrist. Adjust the links until it matches the curvature of your wrist,

If the end of the inner clasp digs into your wrist it’s going to be noticeable after a lot of wear and also push the watch in the opposite direction.

A good point he made
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Old 25 June 2020, 06:00 PM   #8
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Is the clasp somewhat centered the same way as on your omegas?
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Old 25 June 2020, 06:53 PM   #9
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No issues here. I even run with the watch on. Play around with the sizing and centering of the clasp. Hopefully that will suffice.
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Old 25 June 2020, 08:08 PM   #10
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A steel sports watch is strong, but never comfortable as a dress watch. I live in a hot and humid city all year round, I wear an SD43 all day and night, but I am psyched that I like to wear these 185 grams of steel on my wrist. Tell your mind it's like that, period.

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Old 25 June 2020, 09:32 PM   #11
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I have a 16610 and don’t have that problem, as the watch is a good deal lighter. Turns out the added heft of the solid link bracelet is not an advantage especially if one is going to be active while wearing it.
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Old 25 June 2020, 09:54 PM   #12
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It took me several adjustments before I found the right size in terms of number of links and glidelock location, but once I found it the Hulk became my most comfortable watch.

I do agree with you about the case back. If it were slimmer like the GMT, it would be even more comfortable.


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Old 25 June 2020, 09:59 PM   #13
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Hmm...Never had that problem with a 11610.
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Old 25 June 2020, 10:23 PM   #14
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After also picking up a 116610 last week I've been trying out various link configurations. I left the AD with 4 links on the 6oc and 6.5 links on the 12oc with the GL fully closed.

This didnt feel or look right - I could see the top of my clasp when looking at the watch, so I swapped this to 5 links on the 6oc and 5 links on the 12oc with the GL set around the middle. Again this didnt feel right, so swapped again to 4 links on the 6oc and 6 links on the 12oc, but I was back to the same problem I had with when I left the AD - I could again see the top of the clasp on the 6oc side and the watch felt as if it was pulling forward.

I'm now at 4.5 on the 6oc and 6 on the 12oc and can fully close the GL. The watch doesnt feel like it's being pulled forward and the clasp has disappeared out of view under my wrist. Similar to goldilocks, this feels just right. The watch feels a lot more 'natural' on my wrist, similar to how my Omega and my 214270 feel. I think I'll be sticking with this configuration for the time being, but just goes to show you might need to do a little experimenting and trying out different set ups before you find the perfect fit for you.

I would note that the clasp underwrist isn't always central depending on how much of the GL I have out, but I can live with this on the basis the watch head is where it's meant to be and the fact this set up is comfortable.

If you have the proper tools to do it yourself then I'd have a play around, but if not I'm sure your AD will assist...
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Old 25 June 2020, 10:34 PM   #15
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This is rarely discussed but a very good point.

Look at the inner part of the clasp and where it sits on your wrist. Adjust the links until it matches the curvature of your wrist,

If the end of the inner clasp digs into your wrist it’s going to be noticeable after a lot of wear and also push the watch in the opposite direction.

A good point he made
X2. The glide lock clasp is bigger and heavier and needs to be off center for some wrist as not to dig into the middle tendons. I have noticed the GMT clasp to be more comfortable and not as bulky as the glide lock clasp because the way the glide lock can be adjusted to be longer.
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Old 25 June 2020, 10:37 PM   #16
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I hate wearing a watch in hot humid weather. I also just really hate hot weather.

It is no watch or something on NATO when it's hot for me.
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Old 25 June 2020, 10:56 PM   #17
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So it's been pretty hot here in the UK the last couple of days, not to mention, very humid!

I've been wearing my 116610 this week.
I wear it pretty snug and above the wrist bone, as I don't like my watches flopping about my wrist or the crown hitting the back of my hand.

However, after my wrist gets a bit sweaty the watch becomes pretty top heavy and starts falling below the wrist bone and crown starts digging in to my hand.
I find this a bit annoying, and have never had this issue with my Omegas.

I read a lot on here how people find the Sub ceramic the most comfortable watch and they hardly notice it on their wrist half the time.
Does anyone suffer the same problem as me?

I'm thinking it could be because of the thicker case back, the way it sits on the wrist, the watch is not as planted, hence it starts moving when it gets moist.
It's kind of killing my enjoyment of the watch.

Any ideas?
I could never get my 116610 to sit just right, and found it rather uncomfortable and bulky for daily wear - even trying the links in various settings and combinations. I ended up selling it shortly after.

Beautiful watch, but just wasn't meant to be.
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Old 25 June 2020, 10:57 PM   #18
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Moving the half link to the 6:00 side (and removing a full link) helps quite a bit.
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Old 25 June 2020, 11:00 PM   #19
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I know this is not a popular opinion, but I’ve had 2 6 digit subs (bluesy and 116610) and both have been incredibly uncomfortable. I can wear my YM, DD or Daytonas without even noticing, but something about the sub doesn’t work for me. I even get a weird carpal tunnel like pain in my wrist from wearing them that I don’t get from any other watch. You’d think with the half link and glidelock this would never be a problem but unfortunately it is.
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Old 26 June 2020, 12:06 AM   #20
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I know this is not a popular opinion, but I’ve had 2 6 digit subs (bluesy and 116610) and both have been incredibly uncomfortable.
Agreed. I've owned several 6 digit models, sub, gmt, SD4k. All of them uncomfortable and eventually sold them. The 5 digit equivalents I've also owned. All of them miles ahead of the newer references in terms of comfort and daily wrist wearing. The bulk of the new references weighs the watch down and makes them pull in all different directions. I tried every possible configuration to no avail.

My 116523 Daytona is the only 6 digit reference that wears comfortable to me. Again, I think it's due to the less sharp and less bulky case, because the overall weight of the two-tone Daytona is the same or a little more than the 116610.
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Old 26 June 2020, 03:09 AM   #21
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If you wear it quite snug I’m surprised it managed to slip down

I’ve got the opposite problem. In this heat the wrist swells so much the watch becomes tight and I hate that. That’s on watches without the wonderful glide lock system

When I’m wearing my newer subs that’s what I use and I normally always adjust the glide lock in the afternoon, in my case looser.

So why don’t you make the bracelet tighter to stop it moving? I’d also make sure the clasp is centred on your wrist. I find it stops it spinning around. I’m normally 60/40 on the links with more on the 12 side.

Same here exactly.


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Old 26 June 2020, 03:33 AM   #22
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Watch the 6 digit Sub owners get this thread shut down.
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Old 26 June 2020, 03:42 AM   #23
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Old 26 June 2020, 05:46 AM   #24
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So it's been pretty hot here in the UK the last couple of days, not to mention, very humid!

I've been wearing my 116610 this week.
I wear it pretty snug and above the wrist bone, as I don't like my watches flopping about my wrist or the crown hitting the back of my hand.

However, after my wrist gets a bit sweaty the watch becomes pretty top heavy and starts falling below the wrist bone and crown starts digging in to my hand.
I find this a bit annoying, and have never had this issue with my Omegas.

I read a lot on here how people find the Sub ceramic the most comfortable watch and they hardly notice it on their wrist half the time.
Does anyone suffer the same problem as me?

I'm thinking it could be because of the thicker case back, the way it sits on the wrist, the watch is not as planted, hence it starts moving when it gets moist.
It's kind of killing my enjoyment of the watch.

Any ideas?
My Submariner (16610) isn’t my most comfortable watch. That’s why my 39mm white dial OP, and my 36mm DateJust gets more time on my 7 1/2 wrist.
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Old 26 June 2020, 05:52 AM   #25
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i adjust my glidelock everyday due to heat and sweating, just a 2mm adjustment can work wonders
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Old 26 June 2020, 05:52 AM   #26
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Fit of six digit subs is highly dependent on bracelet link setting relative to the Glidelock “notches.” Call it a conspiracy theory, but the tail end of the inner clasp can affect the geometry of how the bracelet fits depending on link arrangement and the Glidelock setting. There’s basically only one spot I can get a perfect fit.

YMMV, but it’s worth reading up on bracelet adjustment for this particular piece- there’s a lot of good info on the forum that can be found with some searching. Hot and humid weather will certainly require opening up the Glidelock a notch or so from your typical setting. It’s unlikely to fit perfectly in all scenarios, at least that’s my experience with my particular wrist shape (flat/wide) and diameter (7”). Make sure the six o’clock side is sized properly- most have too many links.
I also had to adjust my bracelet many many times before I could get an acceptable fit. Still nowhere near as comfortable as a GMT even though it lacks the overhyped glide lock. My advice is try removing the half link. When I had the half link in, it wouldn’t fit right even when I tried to adjust with glide lock. Once removed it fit a little better. Another thing that may help is once you get an acceptable fit, just keep wearing it. Over time you get used to it and won’t notice as much. Just don’t expect the same fit as a Daytona or an explorer because it’s a chunky watch. Good luck!
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Old 26 June 2020, 05:54 AM   #27
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Watch the 6 digit Sub owners get this thread shut down.
lol what? Most of the time any thread about Sub proportions gets hijacked by constant whining about the 6 digit size. Most 6 digit owners are happy just to wear their watch and enjoy it. The 5 digit people are the ones constantly throwing a fit about how Rolex refuses to produce a modern watch they like.
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All great advice here

You might want to post a few pictures and also let us know your wrist size
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So it's been pretty hot here in the UK the last couple of days, not to mention, very humid!

I've been wearing my 116610 this week.
I wear it pretty snug and above the wrist bone, as I don't like my watches flopping about my wrist or the crown hitting the back of my hand.

However, after my wrist gets a bit sweaty the watch becomes pretty top heavy and starts falling below the wrist bone and crown starts digging in to my hand.
I find this a bit annoying, and have never had this issue with my Omegas.

I read a lot on here how people find the Sub ceramic the most comfortable watch and they hardly notice it on their wrist half the time.
Does anyone suffer the same problem as me?

I'm thinking it could be because of the thicker case back, the way it sits on the wrist, the watch is not as planted, hence it starts moving when it gets moist.
It's kind of killing my enjoyment of the watch.

Any ideas?
The watch clearly doesn't suit your wearing preference.
I totally sympathise with your predicament and for simplicity I highly recommend you go back to what you know works for you.
Assuming the watch is in excellent condition you will get your money back so nothing lost there.
Life is a learning experience
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Old 26 June 2020, 06:06 AM   #30
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Anyone here find Deepsea or Sea Dweller more comfortable than Sub?

I know you can't just ignore all the extra weight of the Deepsea but the thick caseback keeps the crown away from the wrist and the DS-specific Glidelock makes it easy to fine tune fit through the day.

I just noticed some above saying a flatter back would be better but I'm not so sure.
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