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4 January 2024, 02:59 AM | #1 |
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I have been scammed please HELP
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wired 14K to the seller JeromeL for a Batman. Now I see he has been banned. I am in Spain and he is in the US. I have his email address, but what can I do?? so frustrated... thanks |
4 January 2024, 03:09 AM | #2 |
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Wow. Sorry to hear. Anyone hear of this seller before? I have not
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4 January 2024, 03:11 AM | #3 |
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I have his address also but I guess I would need to file a report with the police in US.
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4 January 2024, 03:11 AM | #4 |
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I have not heard of this seller either. How about a few more details on just how you got scammed by this seller.
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4 January 2024, 03:11 AM | #5 |
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Well, that is not good, it looks like he took some pointers on scamming from someone else on here getting scammed.
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4 January 2024, 03:14 AM | #6 |
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I am sorry to read this. I hope someone will be along shortly with some good advice for you to follow…
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4 January 2024, 03:17 AM | #7 |
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oh no.. I have his address for the wire
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4 January 2024, 03:18 AM | #8 |
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I saved so much to get the watch.. so pissed of
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4 January 2024, 03:22 AM | #9 |
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So sorry to hear.
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4 January 2024, 03:31 AM | #10 |
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Did you get scammed by a seller on TRF?
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4 January 2024, 03:35 AM | #11 | |
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Gather all of your evidence in a neat and organized file, and call the nearest police department. If they won't help, call the nearest Sheriff Department.
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4 January 2024, 03:36 AM | #12 |
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there is always risks buying watches from grey dealers, learn your lesson and buy from the AD next time. sorry for your lost.
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4 January 2024, 03:38 AM | #13 |
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This is NOT a grey dealer he is talking about. This is a private seller.
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4 January 2024, 03:39 AM | #14 |
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I’m so sorry, awful experience. Have you notified your bank?
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4 January 2024, 03:45 AM | #15 |
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Yes I spoke to tghe bank.. nothing to do. I am in Spain, and cannot file a report in the US I guess..
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4 January 2024, 03:47 AM | #16 |
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Yes a private seller. I was confident because he was here, but when today I saw he has been just banned..
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4 January 2024, 03:49 AM | #17 |
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Can anyone find out why he was banned?
Did he scam someone else or broke a forum rule or ? Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk |
4 January 2024, 03:50 AM | #18 |
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…this maybe a silly question but have you called him? email or txted him about this sale? His banning may or may not be linked to his selling here.
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4 January 2024, 03:54 AM | #19 |
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Sorry to hear that
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4 January 2024, 03:55 AM | #20 |
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4 January 2024, 03:59 AM | #21 |
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Stop wire transfer. Stop payment on check. Dispute credit card charge.
Do whatever you can to reverse charges, depending on money transfer method. Please provide more details.
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4 January 2024, 04:05 AM | #22 |
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Buy a Rolex online from a private seller in another country? Don't be silly, there a million ways it can go wrong but only way it can go right.
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4 January 2024, 04:15 AM | #23 |
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You mentioned that you talked to your bank. Maybe you can request to talk to someone higher up and find out your options? I'm surprised that they are not able to do anything at all. I would also contact your local law enforcement and see what they can do about helping file a report. So sorry to hear this has happened to you. I hope you're able to work it all out.
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4 January 2024, 04:19 AM | #24 | |
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I'm very sorry to hear of your being scammed. Your first mistake was assuming a seller on TRF is safe to deal with. It is up to every buyer to do their due diligence on sellers. TRF does not vent those using the TRF classified forums. I think you should contact your local or national police. I think they would contact the US local police department or the US FBI. Good luck. |
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4 January 2024, 04:20 AM | #25 |
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This entire post has very few details.
Please post ALL info if you expect anyone to be able to help you. |
4 January 2024, 04:39 AM | #26 |
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Maybe the mods can assist? At the very least offer insight why he has been banned.
This is so upsetting, I had nothing but good experiences both buying/selling with private members. I am a little nuts and sell pieces often, and when I do sell to a member I make sure to give them a better experience than any dealer can offer so I can build my reputation for the next sale and this puts a bad taste in the mouths of buyers that want to deal with private sellers. I think you should also look up his info to get his home phone #, cell #, email # if you do not have it already. Contact him, you really never know the story. If you do not get in touch, like others said reach out to the police station near him to see what they can do, if anything. Lastly if you have any friends/family anywhere nearby maybe they can check in on him in person, again you really never know what the story is. |
4 January 2024, 05:15 AM | #27 | |
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And I must reiterate, a grey dealer specifically buys directly from ADs and sells directly to end customers, no exceptions, if it’s any different, then it’s not a gray dealer |
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4 January 2024, 05:27 AM | #28 |
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I am not big on blaming victims but you can't just go around wiring people on a forum without checking references, etc...
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4 January 2024, 05:35 AM | #29 |
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Stated facts recap (to the best of my ability)
1- Buyer (SPA) wired USD 14000 to seller (USA). 2- Buyer did(?) not do any due diligence/research on seller. 3- Seller is not a TRF "Trusted Seller." 4- Seller is currently banned from TRF due to unknown reseasons. 5- Buyer spoke with personal bank: Funds are gone/irrecoverable. 6- Buyer is unable to submit a police report in foreign country. 7- Buyer did not use a secure platform (like C24 with escrow services). 8- Buyer only has seller's email address; seller is unresponsive to attempted contact. If those are the facts, then I would be on the phone with my bank wailing & doing everything possible to try & stop the payment. I would call one of the US Government's several overseas offices (have one in Madrid: https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/international-offices). Short of that, IDK what to tell ya...
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+1. It takes two to scam: a scammer, and somebody who just is not really really careful with their money. For those who’ll read this sad string, The time for help is before the purchase, and doing due diligence, seeing who the person is, checking the who’s who section, etc. I just checked that section and don’t see reference to this seller. I’m sorry, I just don’t get it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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