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jimbones43 · 8 October 2009, 08:28 AM

If in the market for a pre-loved Daytona
Near Mint
All boxes & original receipt
All books
Flawless seller
D serial

NO PAPERS

$8000.00 shipped to your door???

Thanks,
JimC

propedderkustom · 8 October 2009, 08:29 AM

Sounds like a very fair deal to me. Good luck and enjoy!

train-time · 8 October 2009, 08:49 AM

I presume you're referring to a SS Daytona. I have seen new V series at two AD's for $8935 (10 off list) and recently a LNIB M with boxes, books, tags & card for $8K. I would say $8K for a D is a fair price, but not a real deal.

jimbones43 · 8 October 2009, 12:52 PM

I'm very interested!

Thanks,
JimC

sandytn · 8 October 2009, 12:58 PM

I would not touch it without papers, but that is me.

jvo300 · 8 October 2009, 01:04 PM

Find a complete set including the papers (even if it means a little more money to do so).

dannyp · 8 October 2009, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandytn

I would not touch it without papers, but that is me.

I'd be particularly concerned if it came with everything except papers. Who takes care to save every piece of the kit and then loses the papers. I wonder if each of those elements came from a different watch and were all thrown together.

Considering that it's not as hard to get from a dealer as it used to be, and list is less than $2k more than you're paying (or less if ADs are really going 10 off), I'd go that route. My feeling is that if you can afford $8k for a watch, you can afford $9.5k for a watch.

davestan · 8 October 2009, 01:12 PM

Sounds as if you have established the credibility of the seller - probably the most important thing - I think the price is reasonable, but could be a tad better. Being a "D" I guess it might be coming up for a service so you will get a written validation if you service it at a RSC(this is to me when buying, just as good as having the original paper). You might be able to negotiate a bit better price though because it doesn't have papers.

train-time · 9 October 2009, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbones43

I'm very interested!

Thanks,
JimC

PM sent

train-time · 9 October 2009, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jvo300

Find a complete set including the papers (even if it means a little more money to do so).

Agreed. You have to always consider your ability to resell down the road and the papers will impact value and perspective buyers. One option would be get the service done at RSC and use the warranty paper as support that the watch is all original and authentic. Daytona service is slightly more that regular service.

dalip · 9 October 2009, 12:20 AM

Good advice re. papers - personally wouldn't go for it without these.

sakuraba · 9 October 2009, 12:23 AM

The papers would make it easier to flip down the road.

STEELINOX · 9 October 2009, 12:24 AM

Papers dont mean diddly...
Get AND run the serial before committing to it though...

Thanks,
Randy

jms_w · 9 October 2009, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyp

I'd be particularly concerned if it came with everything except papers. Who takes care to save every piece of the kit and then loses the papers. I wonder if each of those elements came from a different watch and were all thrown together.

Considering that it's not as hard to get from a dealer as it used to be, and list is less than $2k more than you're paying (or less if ADs are really going 10 off), I'd go that route. My feeling is that if you can afford $8k for a watch, you can afford $9.5k for a watch.

Re: papers, I bought my 16613 grey-market and got everything but papers. The watch checked out just fine but I do agree that without papers, it'd be difficult to sell.

tthopp05 · 9 October 2009, 01:12 AM

IMHO----------go ahead and buy new.Paperwork is very important and the watch brand new.It is well worth your peace of mind.Good luck.

Gerardus · 9 October 2009, 01:12 AM

Simple question: NO PAPERS = NO DEAL

Zgar · 9 October 2009, 06:24 AM

If it was down here in miami I would tell the guy selling me the Daytona that I will buy it but in the following conditions, Meet me at downtown on monday at 10:00 am at the Seybold Building Once there we will go to the 6th floor were my Rolex expert works and he will open this watch and inspect it for authenticity, cleaniness, acuracy, Pressure test, all of this will be done in front of us, and if it is what you say it is than it's a deal, I may go a little lower in price since he is there already see if he bites. If not, I will buy it anyway. He should have no problem going with you if he really wants to sell this watch......

Wolfgang427 · 9 October 2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by train-time

I presume you're referring to a SS Daytona. I have seen new V series at two AD's for $8935 (10 off list) and recently a LNIB M with boxes, books, tags & card for $8K. I would say $8K for a D is a fair price, but not a real deal.

I agree.

You can get a newer one with box/papers for just a few more dollars.

Singslinger · 9 October 2009, 07:00 PM

IMHO, US$8k is a bit steep for a SS Daytona with no papers. Either knock the price down some more, or add a bit and get something newer with papers.

walds11 · 9 October 2009, 07:21 PM

Fair price in my opinion. I would want the papers though. I like to have the full package.

Gaijin · 9 October 2009, 07:22 PM

If its SS, I would do it. You can get papers when you have it serviced at an RSC someday...

vip4u · 10 October 2009, 12:21 AM

No papers i keep for ever,with paper most probably keep for ever.
If i am plain nervous and scared ,i go buy with papers.
You know your self act accordingly.

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8 October 2009, 08:28 AM	#1
jimbones43 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Jim Location: Earth Posts: 1,067	What would you do? If in the market for a pre-loved Daytona Near Mint All boxes & original receipt All books Flawless seller D serial NO PAPERS $8000.00 shipped to your door??? Thanks, JimC

8 October 2009, 12:52 PM	#4
jimbones43 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Jim Location: Earth Posts: 1,067	Train time can you PM me those AD's? I'm very interested! Thanks, JimC

9 October 2009, 12:20 AM	#11
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	Good advice re. papers - personally wouldn't go for it without these. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

9 October 2009, 12:23 AM	#12
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	The papers would make it easier to flip down the road. __________________ F 14000 AirKing black F 16710 GMT Pepsi F 16570 Explorer II white T 16600 SD D 16610 LV "fine quality is remembered long after the pain of spending money" -Steve Mulholland

8 October 2009, 08:29 AM	#2
propedderkustom "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex, AP, Patek Posts: 299	Sounds like a very fair deal to me. Good luck and enjoy!

8 October 2009, 08:49 AM	#3
train-time 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Plankton Location: US Watch: less Posts: 4,160	I presume you're referring to a SS Daytona. I have seen new V series at two AD's for $8935 (10 off list) and recently a LNIB M with boxes, books, tags & card for $8K. I would say $8K for a D is a fair price, but not a real deal.

8 October 2009, 12:58 PM	#5
sandytn Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Sandy Location: NJ Posts: 713	I would not touch it without papers, but that is me.

8 October 2009, 01:04 PM	#6
jvo300 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 1,897	Find a complete set including the papers (even if it means a little more money to do so).

8 October 2009, 01:12 PM	#8
davestan "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 504	Sounds as if you have established the credibility of the seller - probably the most important thing - I think the price is reasonable, but could be a tad better. Being a "D" I guess it might be coming up for a service so you will get a written validation if you service it at a RSC(this is to me when buying, just as good as having the original paper). You might be able to negotiate a bit better price though because it doesn't have papers.

9 October 2009, 12:24 AM	#13
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,021	Papers dont mean diddly... Get AND run the serial before committing to it though... Thanks, Randy

9 October 2009, 01:12 AM	#15
tthopp05 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NY Watch: THE MIGHTY DEEPSEA Posts: 839	IMHO----------go ahead and buy new.Paperwork is very important and the watch brand new.It is well worth your peace of mind.Good luck.

9 October 2009, 01:12 AM	#16
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,140	Simple question: NO PAPERS = NO DEAL __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

9 October 2009, 06:24 AM	#17
Zgar Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 459	If it was down here in miami I would tell the guy selling me the Daytona that I will buy it but in the following conditions, Meet me at downtown on monday at 10:00 am at the Seybold Building Once there we will go to the 6th floor were my Rolex expert works and he will open this watch and inspect it for authenticity, cleaniness, acuracy, Pressure test, all of this will be done in front of us, and if it is what you say it is than it's a deal, I may go a little lower in price since he is there already see if he bites. If not, I will buy it anyway. He should have no problem going with you if he really wants to sell this watch......

9 October 2009, 07:00 PM	#19
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	IMHO, US$8k is a bit steep for a SS Daytona with no papers. Either knock the price down some more, or add a bit and get something newer with papers.

9 October 2009, 07:21 PM	#20
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,660	Fair price in my opinion. I would want the papers though. I like to have the full package. __________________ Adam

9 October 2009, 07:22 PM	#21
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	If its SS, I would do it. You can get papers when you have it serviced at an RSC someday...

10 October 2009, 12:21 AM	#22
vip4u Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Peter Location: Dubai Watch: TUDOR Hydronaut 1 Posts: 44	No papers i keep for ever,with paper most probably keep for ever. If i am plain nervous and scared ,i go buy with papers. You know your self act accordingly.

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