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scrog10 · 10 March 2010, 06:33 AM

I had a phone call from a local clock shop today. He deals in a few nice watches and back in November I spoke to him regards a Rolex Seadweller.
At the time I had never seen one in the flesh. He said he had one coming in that would be fresh from service due back January.
Well today he phoned me and said its here a bit late but in mint serviced condition with all box and papers.
Thing is. Since November I have sold a Expo 2 I had and bought a 14060m and an Omega SMP GMT and this week I bought a minty Breitling Headwind.
I have seen an SD in the meantime and really liked it. The one I looked at a another dealer was in need of some attention So left it.
The clock shop is an 04 fully serviced and cheaper than the other so I'm tempted.
If I go for it something will have to trade.
What do think ?

bayerische · 10 March 2010, 06:35 AM

Hmmm, I would trade the Omega or Breitling, or both.

bayerische · 10 March 2010, 06:38 AM

Don't get me wrong, I love Omegas. Have owned quite a few, but comparing a Seamaster to a Submariner or Sea-Dweller is like comparing apples and oranges. They are completely different, and build quality wise, the Rolex always wins.

chebert · 10 March 2010, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

Don't get me wrong, I love Omegas. Have owned quite a few, but comparing a Seamaster to a Submariner or Sea-Dweller is like comparing apples and oranges. They are completely different, and build quality wise, the Rolex always wins.

Thats kinda strong.....apples to oranges....Seamaster to Sub...what do you think are the substantial differences, i mean i own them both and i like the sub more but I think they are somewhat comparable watches....

bayerische · 10 March 2010, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chebert

Thats kinda strong.....apples to oranges....Seamaster to Sub...what do you think are the substantial differences, i mean i own them both and i like the sub more but I think they are somewhat comparable watches....

Well, we don't get a Submariner GMT from Rolex for starters.
Seamaster range is catering too wide IMHO.

Just my opinion.

Mockingbird · 10 March 2010, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

Well, we don't get a Submariner GMT from Rolex for starters.
Seamaster range is catering too wide IMHO.

Just my opinion.

Yes, but isn't the GMT basically based on the same basic model?

bayerische · 10 March 2010, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mockingbird

Yes, but isn't the GMT basically based on the same basic model?

If you mean the oyster case, then aren't they all the same?

robertneville · 10 March 2010, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chebert

i mean i own them both and i like the sub more but I think they are somewhat comparable watches....

x2!!!

bayerische · 10 March 2010, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by robertneville

x2!!!

Yes I agree on that too, but...

1. the Seamaster range is very wide. It has almost every kind of watch in it.
2. quite a big price difference between them, standard Submariner COSC to Seamaster COSC is almost twice as expensive, and it shows IMHO.

Anyway. Back to the topic...

A sea-dweller is a monster, I hope to own one day.

dieseldragon · 10 March 2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

Don't get me wrong, I love Omegas. Have owned quite a few, but comparing a Seamaster to a Submariner or Sea-Dweller is like comparing apples and oranges. They are completely different, and build quality wise, the Rolex always wins.

The only Omega I have is my Seamaster 200m SHOM, it wears far bigger than the 16610 I used to have and feels every bit as well built, its a vintage watch and was built for a purpose, no fashion involved.
I don´t want to offend, but I have always thought of the general line of Seamasters as being a bit flash, rather than just being a tool watch, but not sure its fair to say that they are not well built.

Quick shot of my SHOM

bayerische · 10 March 2010, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dieseldragon

The only Omega I have is my Seamaster 200m SHOM, it wears far bigger than the 16610 I used to have and feels every bit as well built, its a vintage watch and was built for a purpose, no fashion involved.
I don´t want to offend, but I have always thought of the general line of Seamasters as being a bit flash, rather than just being a tool watch, but not sure its fair to say that they are not well built.

Quick shot of my SHOM

Wonderful!

The old Omegas are much nicer than new ones. Except the speedmaster pro that has stayed the same...

Flightmaster is another wonderful vintage Omega.

dieseldragon · 10 March 2010, 07:54 AM

Nice bracelet on that!! I do love the sharkmesh bracelets, so easy to wear.

Mockingbird · 10 March 2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

If you mean the oyster case, then aren't they all the same?

Yeah I guess I didn't think out that statement, I guess what I meant was that its the same general design, around 40mm case, rotatable bezel, etc.

Some people I've met (non WIS) actually believe that the modern GMT II is a sub model of the sub.

scrog10 · 10 March 2010, 06:54 PM

We seem to have strayed of topic here.
Do I sell something and buy a 2004 Seadweller.
The 14060m is very like the SD in appearance but no one has mentioned that one for trade.
I guess that's something to do with this being a Rolex forum.

Daytonamania · 10 March 2010, 06:58 PM

Chop the Breitling , i think it is too fussy .
SD is so useable everyday and definitely a keeper .
Keep the 14060 i think they are lovely , saw one yesterday at my AD.

Hawk99 · 10 March 2010, 07:14 PM

Go SD, and lose the Breitling. Just my thoughts.

Fiery · 10 March 2010, 07:46 PM

Lose the Omega and Breitling, and go for the SD. Then start saving up for a replacement GMT watch -- GMT IIC perhaps?

DWdrummer · 10 March 2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scrog10

We seem to have strayed of topic here.
Do I sell something and buy a 2004 Seadweller.
The 14060m is very like the SD in appearance but no one has mentioned that one for trade.
I guess that's something to do with this being a Rolex forum.

Its a tough choice. I would go for the Rolex SD myself. It is a thicker and heavier watch than the 14060m you currently own. Its a completely different watch in look and feel, though similar in appearance at first glance. It is also rated to an almost obscene depth of 1000 meters or 4000ft. Its a very nice watch.

Omega makes a fine watch, they really do, I just feel the Rolex is superior. You get better build quality, not substantially better, but still better none the less. You get an in house movement. Omega of course uses heavily modified ETA movements which are great in their own right, but they are not in house. With Rolex, they build it all themselves, nothing is a modified this or that, its ALL Rolex.

Rolex will of course have much better resale value as well. Omega sadly doesn't hold up well in the secondary market save for some Speedmaster Pro models, such as vintage pieces, but that is a whole different ball game.

So I would go for the Rolex Sea Dweller for sure if it were me.

jets · 11 March 2010, 12:20 AM

As far as the Breiting goes-if it's like the watch below than it's a different watch altogether from the SD. It'll be a personal preference with respect for you needs.

However, a SD can be worn up or down where the Breiting may not. I had a SMP 2254.50 that I gave away. Dial was identical you yours sans the 24h hand and bezel. Looked nice but at the time I preferred my LV. IMO OMEGA "tries" too hard with a special edition for everything it seems. I'm still trying to understand why a diver needs a GMT functionality?

10 March 2010, 07:54 AM	#12
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	Nice bracelet on that!! I do love the sharkmesh bracelets, so easy to wear. __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

10 March 2010, 06:54 PM	#14
scrog10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Simon Location: Devon U.K Watch: Rolex GMT 2c Posts: 240	We seem to have strayed of topic here. Do I sell something and buy a 2004 Seadweller. The 14060m is very like the SD in appearance but no one has mentioned that one for trade. I guess that's something to do with this being a Rolex forum. __________________ IWC Aquatimer 2000, Rolex GMT 2c[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC], Breitling Aerospace.

11 March 2010, 12:20 AM	#19
jets "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mario Location: CANADA Posts: 2,483	As far as the Breiting goes-if it's like the watch below than it's a different watch altogether from the SD. It'll be a personal preference with respect for you needs. However, a SD can be worn up or down where the Breiting may not. I had a SMP 2254.50 that I gave away. Dial was identical you yours sans the 24h hand and bezel. Looked nice but at the time I preferred my LV. IMO OMEGA "tries" too hard with a special edition for everything it seems. I'm still trying to understand why a diver needs a GMT functionality? __________________ ♛ DJII 116234 · Submariner 126610LV · Yacht Master 42 226659 ✿ Pelagos 25600TN Ω X-33 Speedmaster Skywalker · 1861 Speedmaster Modsukoshi · SMP 2254.50 · SMP 2230.50 NAC · Seamaster 300 166.0324 · Genève 162.037 Seiko SLA033 Willard · SKX007

10 March 2010, 06:35 AM	#2
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Hmmm, I would trade the Omega or Breitling, or both.

10 March 2010, 06:38 AM	#3
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Don't get me wrong, I love Omegas. Have owned quite a few, but comparing a Seamaster to a Submariner or Sea-Dweller is like comparing apples and oranges. They are completely different, and build quality wise, the Rolex always wins.

10 March 2010, 06:58 PM	#15
Daytonamania "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: nigel Location: Wales Watch: SS Daytona/DSSD/LV Posts: 267	Chop the Breitling , i think it is too fussy . SD is so useable everyday and definitely a keeper . Keep the 14060 i think they are lovely , saw one yesterday at my AD.

10 March 2010, 07:14 PM	#16
Hawk99 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: BC Posts: 388	Go SD, and lose the Breitling. Just my thoughts.

10 March 2010, 07:46 PM	#17
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	Lose the Omega and Breitling, and go for the SD. Then start saving up for a replacement GMT watch -- GMT IIC perhaps?

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