Lets speculate on next years Baselworld 2013.

[dmitrii_]

Is it too early??

Only about a half a years time away.

So what do you think? Will we see new Daytona models? (possible ceramics, or a larger size)

Will we be seeing more Sky Dweller options. I doubt it will come in SS as the movement is probably too costly to throw into a SS watch.

Perhaps Rolex will unveil a new option for the DSSD? This one is doubtful to me because I see the DSSD staying a one-watch lineup.

Thoughts?

[padi56]

I now never speculate on anything from Rolex at Basel because over the past 12 years or so I have been very disappointed.

[Psmith]

I'd like to see a new Daytona - larger (42 mm) with a date complication.
But I expect we'll see further use of the Cerachrom bezel on exisiting models instead

I would also like to see some more colour options for the SS Sub C and GMT II C, but don't expect this to happen

Perhaps we'll see the midsize (and possibly ladies size) version of the new YM. Other than that, perhaps just additional variations of DJs and other existing models

[dmitrii_]

Originally Posted by padi56

I now never speculate on anything from Rolex at Basel because over the past 12 years or so I have been very disappointed.

I think you may be taking for granted that Rolex keeps the watch line-up rather minimal for a reason.

Aside from the DD/DJ (I & II), there are only so many options for a reason, IMO.

It allows each makeup to become a classic without overdoing like say, Hublot (no offense big bang lovers) with it's limited editions and special editions that are hard to track.

I for one appreciate the consistency and love the fact that I knew when buying a Sub C in 2012, I will not regret it shortly after b/c Rolex went and released more options or a new dial that I like.

[apeogre]

Are we really talking about this already???

I guess, since we are, I'm going with Psmith. Nothing exciting will come this year, just a few little ooo's and aaaaah's.

Originally Posted by Psmith

But I expect we'll see further use of the Cerachrom bezel on exisiting models instead

I would also like to see some more colour options for the SS Sub C and GMT II C, but don't expect this to happen

Perhaps we'll see the midsize (and possibly ladies size) version of the new YM. Other than that, perhaps just additional variations of DJs and other existing models

[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by padi56

I now never speculate on anything from Rolex at Basel because over the past 12 years or so I have been very disappointed.

I wish Rolex was publicly traded/owned and not involved in an ancient type
of for profit charity Hans Wisdorf foundation he established, which in turn
is owned by a private trust...when I hear the phrase "private trust" ?
Immediately I am thinking of a slow moving bureaucratic machine
that is anti-everything.
They buy gold - lot's of it - but what about complicated watches ?
I guess their idea of a complication is the Sky Dweller at 60k a pop.
Anyway dont let me get started...got to "watch" my blood pressure...

[dmitrii_]

Don't pop a clog Tempo,

There's a bright side to everything. Less watches to lust after and desire = More money in the bank/under the mattress.

[floater156]

Originally Posted by dmitrii_

I think you may be taking for granted that Rolex keeps the watch line-up rather minimal for a reason.

Aside from the DD/DJ (I & II), there are only so many options for a reason, IMO.

It allows each makeup to become a classic without overdoing like say, Hublot (no offense big bang lovers) with it's limited editions and special editions that are hard to track.

I for one appreciate the consistency and love the fact that I knew when buying a Sub C in 2012, I will not regret it shortly after b/c Rolex went and released more options or a new dial that I like.

Hear, hear!

[capote]

A SS Daytona-c would be interesting, but I will try to occupy my mind with other things than upcoming models next year. I think Tudor once again will outshine Rolex.

[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by padi56

I now never speculate on anything from Rolex at Basel because over the past 12 years or so I have been very disappointed.

Me too Padi, couldn't agree more. Rolex has been slowly moving away from me. IMHO they messed up their icon the Sub, the Sub C is not my cup of tea! The DSSD is a top-hat that I'll never wear. Sky dweller while unique isn't for me either even if I could afford it I wouldn't afford it. The only recent move I agree with is the 42mm EXP II and so far it's on an island all by itself. They made their update on the Sub C but they should have done a proportional 42mm sea dweller like the EXP II that wasn't two stories high.

Anyway what do I know...

[McLovin]

Pepsi Black Bay (or probably rename it as a GMT). And Tudor will be back in the US market with a big hit.

[dmitrii_]

Is Tudor making a comeback confirmed or speculation?

[RolexDivers]

I just want the ceramic PEPSI and I am all done with ROLEX. Like Padi56 said, they have been nothing but disappointment over the last few years. They might not be a publicly traded company but by looking at their products, they sure act like a publicly traded company because anytime a company goes public, their quality goes down and looking at basel 2012, all I can say to Rolex is "what were you thinking? Or were you?"
I am definitely looking for pre-ceramic Rolexes for my collection --- The only watch I think is worth the priceis their DSSD ----

[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by dmitrii_

Is Tudor making a comeback confirmed or speculation?

Yes

[superdog]

Originally Posted by RolexDivers

I just want the ceramic PEPSI and I am all done with ROLEX. Like Padi56 said, they have been nothing but disappointment over the last few years. They might not be a publicly traded company but by looking at their products, they sure act like a publicly traded company because anytime a company goes public, their quality goes down and looking at basel 2012, all I can say to Rolex is "what were you thinking? Or were you?"
I am definitely looking for pre-ceramic Rolexes for my collection --- The only watch I think is worth the priceis their DSSD ----

for me, that deserves a big ole:

[dmitrii_]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

Yes

Got it Boston

This as well

[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by RolexDivers

I just want the ceramic PEPSI and I am all done with ROLEX. Like Padi56 said, they have been nothing but disappointment over the last few years. They might not be a publicly traded company but by looking at their products, they sure act like a publicly traded company because anytime a company goes public, their quality goes down and looking at basel 2012, all I can say to Rolex is "what were you thinking? Or were you?"
I am definitely looking for pre-ceramic Rolexes for my collection --- The only watch I think is worth the priceis their DSSD ----

Agree with some of your points here. I enjoy the sports line and while I think many of the upgrades were good moves (the new bracelets, Explorer II was success IMO) there are some basic changes that were made that are definitely not for me. The Sub C and GMTIIC just have odd proportions to me. I always coveted a GMTIIC until I tried it on in person and was kind of disappointed. I am still a huge fan of the Milgauss and in the future it might be last Rolex I buy. I think a Pepsi or Coke bezel would sell me just enough the GMTIIC to overlook some of the proportion issues I have with the watch. I am by no means giving up on Rolex. I just feel as though with my meager collection I kind of have everything I want right now and don't feel a need to add to it as a consumer.

[Lisa]

Wish Rolex would offer a vintage-style Datejust with the mixed Arabic/Romans/batons "California" dial and Mercedes hands. Nah, it will never happen.

[RolexDivers]

Originally Posted by Ravager135

....I am by no means giving up on Rolex. I just feel as though with my meager collection I kind of have everything I want right now and don't feel a need to add to it as a consumer.

I feel the same way too --- ROLEX is the reason that everysingle Rolex i own, has appreciated ---Had I bought something else, I would not have much to show for it today. Their new models don't really excite me because there is a drastic change in shape and materials and with that drastic change, comes a break in history ----Everytime I see a PEPSI, I think of chuck yeager and PAN AM --- everytime I see a GMT2C, I do not think of them ---yes,the 2C is derived from the PEPSI but it is not the PEPSI --- it has no history except modern history. I think Rolex had to take that action to go BIG otherwise, their name alone would not have been enough to win consumers, since most conusmers are consumed with BIGGER IS BETTER mentality-----For me personally, I can not dish out the cash for something really thin and slim, like th PATEK for example. I just do not appreciate the movmement or finishing enough to do so. Maybe I am too immature but I like beefiness to accompany my watches.....

[Deyn Man]

perhaps 2013 baselworld would yield:
1. pepsi or coke GMTIIC (or maybe a rootbeer TT GMTIIC?)
2. DJII fluted bezel on jubilee bracelet
3. Daytona versions (maybe expect a green one for the anniv model?)
4. maybe a SS YMII? white dial with black ceramic bezel?
5. 41mm Oyster Perpetuals?

[Speed]

A new base movement to replace the 3135???

[gwalker]

Well I doubt any brand new model will be released I thing the Daytona could get a ceramic bezel and the YMII might come out in SS since they did a TT model. Only thing I'm pretty sure of is there will be new DJ dials because there always is. Bottom line is there is no way to know wait until Basel. I'll say there won't be a Pepsi GMT. I think it would've shown up already if there was going to be one I think it would've shown up. I doubt anything big this year as all the models have been updated recently and Rolex usually goes many years before updates.

[Pghwatch]

I am hoping for the GMT II C Pepsi and Coke.

Probably ceramic bezel on the SS Daytonas.

[dmitrii_]

Doubt the YMII comes in SS as the movement is far too complicated to satisfy the SS price point.

Don't think a 20k SS would really work for Rolex. But who knows.

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by Speed

A new base movement to replace the 3135???

Now that would be interesting

[Reese's TimePieces]

Originally Posted by Psmith

I'd like to see a new Daytona - larger (42 mm) with a date complication.
But I expect we'll see further use of the Cerachrom bezel on exisiting models instead

I agree a new 42mm Daytona would be a fantastic addition, but who knows if that is likely to happen. Realistically, I'm expecting something like a SS Daytona with a Cerachrom bezel.

Originally Posted by Psmith

I would also like to see some more colour options for the SS Sub C and GMT II C, but don't expect this to happen

I doubt this one is going to happen, but it can't hurt to be hopeful.

Originally Posted by Psmith

Perhaps we'll see the midsize (and possibly ladies size) version of the new YM. Other than that, perhaps just additional variations of DJs and other existing models

This is probably the most realistic option.

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by Lisa

Wish Rolex would offer a vintage-style Datejust with the mixed Arabic/Romans/batons "California" dial and Mercedes hands. Nah, it will never happen.

Or something like this, perhaps...?

[Lisa]

Originally Posted by Psmith

Or something like this, perhaps...?

There ya go!

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by Speed

A new base movement to replace the 3135???

Not going to happen. The models were renewed very recently (Rolex time) and notwithstanding Chris/GMT Master's criticisms, it's a very reliable and solid movement that's as good as anything out there (yes, the 8500, but see later in my post). Maybe in a few years Rolex will try to generate some buzz with a new movement that's head and shoulders above what's out there (assuming others make a big push), but, no need for the foreseeable future. I think the percentage of people who will buy an 8500 movement PO over a 3135 Submariner solely because of the movement is very, very, very small.

[gwalker]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Not going to happen. The models were renewed very recently (Rolex time) and notwithstanding Chris/GMT Master's criticisms, it's a very reliable and solid movement that's as good as anything out there (yes, the 8500, but see later in my post). Maybe in a few years Rolex will try to generate some buzz with a new movement that's head and shoulders above what's out there (assuming others make a big push), but, no need for the foreseeable future. I think the percentage of people who will buy an 8500 movement PO over a 3135 Submariner solely because of the movement is very, very, very small.

Throwing a new hairspring in movements that are as old as me hardly warrants saying they were "renewed". Yes the 3135 is a solid movement but there is plenty of new technology that could be implemented by Rolex. Would I trade my SubC for a PO, no. But IMHO the only thing the 3135 and its variants have over the cal 8500 is its proven over a longtime. There isn't anything wrong with Rolex's workhorse movement but I liken it to an old reliable 20 yr old truck. It's solid but why not use superior technology if its there. I would guess it will happen sooner than later. The group of Rolex engineers that develops movements have been releasing some cutting edge movements like the YMII and Sky Dweller. Hopefully the 3135 is next to be redesigned (at least give it a power reserve compatible to the competition.)