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Old 31 October 2014, 11:30 PM   #1
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1955 6536-1 ( formally posted as a 6204)

Here are more photos of the watch as requested. I've also included the box, test paper and the watch bands.
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Old 31 October 2014, 11:55 PM   #2
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Wow - beauty and very rare. Have a vintage Rolex specialist restore it, by doing the minimum possible, to retain as much originality as you can. By that, I'd suggest a movement-only service, new seals/gaskets, new crystal, and source a correct bezel insert, and correct hand-set. Won't be cheap or easy, but worth it, IMHO., especially as you have the box and papers. Stunning, congrats.
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Old 31 October 2014, 11:57 PM   #3
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Absolutely amazing piece of history you have there. What are your plans for it?
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Old 1 November 2014, 12:02 AM   #4
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Uncertain what I will do with it, but selling it is on the table. It would be nice to restore it to some degree. It actually keeps pretty good time as is, but I know it needs servicing.
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Old 1 November 2014, 12:06 AM   #5
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and don't let anyone change that crown!
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Old 1 November 2014, 12:09 AM   #6
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Looks like the hour indices at 3, 4, 5, 6 & 9 have been re-lumed/painted, and not very well, which is a shame... Maybe have an expert dial restorer work some magic on it.

Oh, I see you're thinking of selling it. Good luck, whatever you do.
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Old 1 November 2014, 12:10 AM   #7
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If selling then no need to service or restore as the next owner will likely want to make the call on that. If wearing then there are only a few independent watchmakers I'd trust it with.
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Old 1 November 2014, 12:20 AM   #8
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I would be interested in knowing what it is worth as is? Does the Joyeria Riviera Mark add anything to the watch value? From that I can decide if I want to invest in fixing it or selling it.
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Old 1 November 2014, 12:25 AM   #9
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I wouldn't like to guess at value in current state - maybe someone else will venture a figure or range. You're looking at a couple of grand upwards for proper restoration with period-correct parts, though, I reckon.
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Old 1 November 2014, 12:53 AM   #10
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AFAIK this is the very first " small crown " submariner with " JOYERIA RIVIERA " on the dial.
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Old 1 November 2014, 01:09 AM   #11
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Thanks for the reply Marcello. Which is why I'm on the forums here. I couldn't find anything on a 6536-1, 1955, Joyeria Riviera Submariner, no photos...nothing. I did find a 6205 online with the mark, asking $48,000 but it is in excellent condition compared to mine.
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Old 1 November 2014, 01:14 AM   #12
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Hello and welcome!

I am sure you will get a lot of offers on this watch but I hope you keep it.

What a piece of history, I am sure this watch has an incredible story, would you mind sharing anything about it and its journey from Cuba to the US?

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Old 1 November 2014, 01:26 AM   #13
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The history is a mystery! My grandfather supervised road construction in several countries in Africa in the 1950's and the story was that he purchased this in France before coming home, but that would mean the watch had been previously sold in Cuba and then came back to France?

Another thought my family and I have had, including my Aunt is that a friend owed him money and paid him with the watch. That may be more plausible as he never had traveled to Cuba.
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Old 1 November 2014, 01:49 AM   #14
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I suggest posting a similar thread on VRF. Pretty unique watch that needs only a movement service, some cleaning, new seals, maybe some love to the (possibly original) plexy and, of course, a correct bezel insert (this could probably take a lot of time, though).
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Old 1 November 2014, 02:24 AM   #15
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Discussing value is pointless. It's a moving target.

A piece like this could sell into the sky if properly restored as noted above.
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Old 1 November 2014, 02:32 AM   #16
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If you want to sell it, sell it through one of the big auction houses no matter how big bids you will be (or already have been) PM'd. The market is red hot and the sky is the limit having a few freaks do a bid war on it. Value aside it is great to get to see such a unique piece!
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Congrats on such an amazing piece
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Old 1 November 2014, 08:23 AM   #18
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If you want to sell it, sell it through one of the big auction houses no matter how big bids you will be (or already have been) PM'd. The market is red hot and the sky is the limit having a few freaks do a bid war on it. Value aside it is great to get to see such a unique piece!
If you don't keep it (which you should) then big auction house for sure, they will heavily promote a Sub with history like this.
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Old 1 November 2014, 09:43 AM   #19
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Is the guarantee card filled out with the name of the dealer? Doesn't seem to be.
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Old 1 November 2014, 10:04 AM   #20
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Is the guarantee card filled out with the name of the dealer? Doesn't seem to be.
Looks like its blurred, atleast the SN appears to be
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Old 1 November 2014, 11:40 AM   #21
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The card is not filled out...why, I don't know?
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Old 1 November 2014, 11:46 AM   #22
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Absolutely stunning.
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Old 1 November 2014, 11:58 AM   #23
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It's a pity there's no serial number or seller on the warranty.
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Old 2 November 2014, 06:34 AM   #24
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Keep us posted on developments, please!
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Old 2 November 2014, 11:58 PM   #25
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I've seen this on date just and 6202 TOG, valuable but dial quality on this one hurts value.
Freshen up & wear it :-) m
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You guys mention restorers any leads on that ....
Thanks in advance
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