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Old 2 February 2016, 01:21 PM   #61
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I have bought from paypal before, but only locally via F2F sale. I'm not sure I would trust it for distance sales - definitely not now.

Hope you can get this all resolved!
Are you aware that PayPal does not cover f2f, buyer can leave the meeting and claim they never received it. PayPal requires confirmed signed delivery.

Trust me I know cost me about 2.2k. Claim was filled weeks after the transaction.
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^^This^^

Am I missing something (if so, what???)?

OP says seller shipped an empty box; Fedex delivered said box. Why, exactly, would fedex pay one red cent?

Do you plan to disclose to Fedex that the box was shipped empty?


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Seriously guys why am I being interrogated here, I am the victim remember?
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Old 2 February 2016, 03:09 PM   #63
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Seriously guys why am I being interrogated here, I am the victim remember?

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Old 2 February 2016, 04:37 PM   #64
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Seriously guys why am I being interrogated here, I am the victim remember?

You are the victim Andy, these threads go off track sometimes. Best of luck, claim and use all avenues of appeal. This happened to me once on a return repair after sale. Hope all goes well cheers.


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Old 2 February 2016, 09:36 PM   #65
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The shipping weight will be based on volumetric weight calculated from the dimensions of the box. This is usually heavier than the weight of the watch and its contents. FedEX will have no idea if there are contents or not within.

File a credit card chargeback, this is the best resolution if Paypal doesn't work.
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Old 3 February 2016, 12:18 AM   #66
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Another scumbag Canadian scammer beware!!

The intent of my questions is not to make you feel like you're being interrogated. I'm genuinely curious to see how fedex handles this (I use them also but through parcel pro). I don't think this thread has gone off track; on the contrary, we are simply replying to info you posted.

It is unfortunate that you are the victim, but I honestly still don't understand how/why it could be the duty of fedex to make you whole (or partly so) if they delivered to you what shipper paid to send (being an empty box, as I understand it). Wouldn't that then make them the victim, when they had no part in the deal itself?


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Old 3 February 2016, 03:03 AM   #67
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The intent of my questions is not to make you feel like you're being interrogated. I'm genuinely curious to see how fedex handles this (I use them also but through parcel pro). I don't think this thread has gone off track; on the contrary, we are simply replying to info you posted.

It is unfortunate that you are the victim, but I honestly still don't understand how/why it could be the duty of fedex to make you whole (or partly so) if they delivered to you what shipper paid to send (being an empty box, as I understand it). Wouldn't that then make them the victim, when they had no part in the deal itself?


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Doesnt really matter now that the seller is anonymous and cant be found
I would have to have him sign off from making a claim and that wont happen
Iam caling the Fedex rep today to explain the whole situation and will let you guys know, its possible the seller has already started a claim on his side, so when i tell FEDX the truth they will revoke it I hope
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So sorry to hear this Andy

You are a good dude and this is just plain terrible. I hope this all gets worked your to your satisfaction.
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Doesnt really matter now that the seller is anonymous and cant be found
I would have to have him sign off from making a claim and that wont happen
Iam caling the Fedex rep today to explain the whole situation and will let you guys know, its possible the seller has already started a claim on his side, so when i tell FEDX the truth they will revoke it I hope

I'm still hoping and betting that your CC company will come through for you, leaving PayPal to deal with its scammer client.

I'm still dumbfounded that they denied your claim out of hand due to the fact that you made 2 partial payments--for the same item.


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Well here is the update, good news I got 5k back and CC company should have the other half in the next day or too.
I called Fedex to explain but had to leave a message, will report back with results
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Old 3 February 2016, 10:21 AM   #71
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Well here is the update, good news I got 5k back and CC company should have the other half in the next day or too.
I called Fedex to explain but had to leave a message, will report back with results

Glad to hear this!
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Old 3 February 2016, 10:39 AM   #72
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Oh man. I've seen some of your watch postings. You've always come across as a sincere, straight shooter and have the history to confirm my impressions. Stories like this make my skin crawl; congratulations on the 5k and God willing, the rest soon enough. Best incoming ever.

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Well here is the update, good news I got 5k back and CC company should have the other half in the next day or too.
I called Fedex to explain but had to leave a message, will report back with results
I take it the 5K came via the CC Company?
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Old 3 February 2016, 11:28 AM   #74
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I take it the 5K came via the CC Company?
Yes it did
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Congrats, happy to hear you CC came through.

I can add for future reference that FedEx photographs, dimensionally scans (with lasers), and weighs every package that comes through their system. So they will be able to tell the exact condition, size, and weight of any package entered into their network.
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Old 4 February 2016, 03:55 AM   #77
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Well here is the update, good news I got 5k back and CC company should have the other half in the next day or too.
I called Fedex to explain but had to leave a message, will report back with results
That's great news! I hope the other $5k comes through as well.
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Old 4 February 2016, 08:26 AM   #78
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Old 4 February 2016, 11:52 AM   #79
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What would happen if I created a post that said

Another SCUMBAG AMERICAN scammer beware!!


Hmmm
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Believe the OP himself is from canada

Dont think he meant it quite like it was worded!! E.g. Another scumbag. Canada scammer beware!
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What would happen if I created a post that said

Another SCUMBAG AMERICAN scammer beware!!


Hmmm
I'd say there are a few out there... As stated the OP is Canadian.
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Old 4 February 2016, 01:13 PM   #82
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What would happen if I created a post that said

Another SCUMBAG AMERICAN scammer beware!!


Hmmm
Well, since you are Canadian, that would offend a lot of people
I, on the other hand, am Canadian in Canada, so it doesnt quite have the same effect
Seriously, an honest person just got saved from losing a large sum of money to pond scum
Pond scum is the same everywhere, regardless of location
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Well, since you are Canadian, that would offend a lot of people
I, on the other hand, am Canadian in Canada, so it doesnt quite have the same effect
Seriously, an honest person just got saved from losing a large sum of money to pond scum
Pond scum is the same everywhere, regardless of location
Good to know! If someone who is an American wrongs me I can post something along the lines of

Yet Another Arrogant American A$$ as a title on an open forum, and it's ok if I were an American.

Good to know.
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Good to know! If someone who is an American wrongs me I can post something along the lines of



Yet Another Arrogant American A$$ as a title on an open forum, and it's ok if I were an American.



Good to know.

Huh?


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Good to know! If someone who is an American wrongs me I can post something along the lines of

Yet Another Arrogant American A$$ as a title on an open forum, and it's ok if I were an American.

Good to know.
Since reading obviously isn't your strong point, maybe we could add some pictures?


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To all the American and Canadian scumbags:

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that sucks andy.

did you check which fedex or drop off location the scammer used? ask for the video of that day via the local OPP and offer a public reward via CL and Kijiji for the general area. cut and paste the original ad and all you've posted here on it. also, study the ad text pattern and keywords and see if they try to resell it --- if they ever even had it.

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👍Great news you were made whole.

But not exactly a perfect resolution. Am I correct in saying that the bad guy got off with $10,000? And I assume your credit card company charged back PayPal and they took the loss?


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Wow.
Glad to hear at least part of your money/charge has been returned.
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