New RM35-02 Ronald McDonald Edition

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by Hollister

I read that they are made by Vaucher.

Either way, not in-house, which rules them out for a snobby bloke like me ;-) A watch company isn't really a watch company unless they make their own movements, dontcha know.

P.S. I am only kidding, please don't take offence.

Yeah, like Audemars Piguet and Patek Philippe, of course. But maybe you don't know that they use some Lemania, Frederic Piguet and Jaeger Le Coultre movements and even some ETA quartzes...

Please...

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

No watch with your "Happy Mille" then?

Quite brilliant….If this was FB I would have "shared" and claimed it as my own.

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by fmc000

Yeah, like Audemars Piguet and Patek Philippe, of course. But maybe you don't know that they use some Lemania, Frederic Piguet and Jaeger Le Coultre movements and even some ETA quartzes...

Please...

I know PP used to use other manufacturers' movements in some of the watches, but I think they are all in-house these days. That's quite a different situation from the RM business model of outsourcing all their movements.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by Hollister

I know PP used to use other manufacturers' movements in some of the watches, but I think they are all in-house these days. That's quite a different situation from the RM business model of outsourcing all their movements.

So to recap, you don't like RM watches (based upon your trip report to RM Dubai), you don't like movements and you've spent 7-8 posts saying basically the same thing. I'm sure RM is having internal meetings about this right now.

The beautiful part is that RM buyers don't give a rats a$$ about movement this or that. RM will continue to sell everyone of the 2500 watches they produce a year. So opine away, but your time might be better spent pushing your FPJ watches.

PS - I'd take a APRP movement ANYDAY of the week over an in house movement of most companies.

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by Hollister

I know PP used to use other manufacturers' movements in some of the watches, but I think they are all in-house these days.

Wrong.

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by fmc000

Wrong.

OK, I'm wrong. Please enlighten me as to which of PP's movements are not made in-house, because the vast majority are AFAIK.

It's not really the point, though. The point is that ALL RM's movements are outsourced. None is made in-house. I think that's pretty rare in "haute horology", if not unique.

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by texex91

So opine away, but your time might be better spent pushing your FPJ watches.

Thanks, but this discussion isn't about FPJ, it's about RM.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by Hollister

OK, I'm wrong. Please enlighten me as to which of PP's movements are not made in-house, because the vast majority are AFAIK.

It's not really the point, though. The point is that ALL RM's movements are outsourced. None is made in-house. I think that's pretty rare in "haute horology", if not unique.

Another post saying the same thing. So you're saying they don't have in house movement...ah, okay, the other posts weren't clear

A watch company having in house movements hardly means it's a better movement just FYI. But we can argue that point until the cows come home...which based upon your same posts you will LOL.

Pssst....little secret...never had an issue with any RM, can't say the same for my AP's and PP. Just a thought.

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by texex91

Another post saying the same thing. So you're saying they don't have in house movement...ah, okay, the other threads weren't clear

Because another poster stated that the same applied to AP and PP, which clearly isn't true. Please try to keep up.

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by texex91

A watch company having in house movements hardly means it's a better movement just FYI.

I know. But it makes them a watch company rather than a re-casing outfit. Just a thought.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by Hollister

I know. But it makes them a watch company rather than a re-casing outfit. Just a thought.

Ah, okay so know they are a re-casting outfit. LOL.

You are a funny person with way too much time on your hands to ramble on about a brand you clearly don't like.

Anyway, have fun...and I'll leave you with a secret...I think they outsource their strap manufacturing as well. I know--shocking.

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by texex91

Ah, okay so know they are a re-casting outfit. LOL.

You are a funny person with way too much time on your hands to ramble on about a brand you clearly don't like.

Anyway, have fun...and I'll leave you with a secret...I think they outsource their strap manufacturing as well. I know--shocking.

It isn't a brand I don't like. I've stated several times that some of the things they are doing are admirable and interesting. I'm sorry that my factual analysis seems to have hit a raw nerve with you, so I'll stop here if it pleases you.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by Hollister

It isn't a brand I don't like. I've stated several times that some of the things they are doing are admirable and interesting. I'm sorry that my factual analysis seems to have hit a raw nerve with you, so I'll stop here if it pleases you.

Your threads have been amusing to say the least...so thank you.

BTW, love my 'out of house movement'

Enjoy the FPJ and peace out:

[kunlun]

Originally Posted by fmc000

Wrong.

Which of PP's mechanical movements are made outdide of PP, please?

[jschmidtdmd]

I think the red on a black or grey strap will be sick.

Time till tell Tom ;)

[lapince]

Originally Posted by kunlun

which of pp's mechanical movements are made outdide of pp, please?

+1

[A3MED]

Hello TRF friends, I started this thread in an attempt to lighten up the mood and try to be funny...Unfortunately most of you did not get my sense of humor. I was not trying to bash Richard Mille in any way, I admire their timepieces and am a great fan. At the end of the day I would like to apologize to anyone that has felt offended by my post because that was not my intent.

Watches are supposed to bring us together not tear us apart
Thank you all for your time and contribution,
Ahmed

[conkers]

I think it is time to close this thread. It is just creating unnecessary animosity. To the OP it is not your fault at all it took a nasty turn. Thank you for posting.

I am a massive RM fan but have not felt the need to add my own views on this particular watch. In fact I post less and less recently as the "other watches" section of TRF seems to be becoming slightly less friendly and welcoming to everyone irrespective of their views.

[masterserg]

I love it. It should be sick with a black strap.

[kunlun]

Originally Posted by A3MED

Hello TRF friends, I started this thread in an attempt to lighten up the mood and try to be funny...Unfortunately most of you did not get my sense of humor. I was not trying to bash Richard Mille in any way, I admire their timepieces and am a great fan. At the end of the day I would like to apologize to anyone that has felt offended by my post because that was not my intent.

Watches are supposed to bring us together not tear us apart
Thank you all for your time and contribution,
Ahmed

Ahmed, I completely got it and it was very funny and very welcome.

Yes, a few people are sourpusses, but hopefully they can understand that it's okay to lighten the mood. A lot of interesting information was posted and I learned a lot about RM.

You have nothing to apologize for and I hope you continue making fun posts in the future.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by A3MED

Hello TRF friends, I started this thread in an attempt to lighten up the mood and try to be funny...Unfortunately most of you did not get my sense of humor. I was not trying to bash Richard Mille in any way, I admire their timepieces and am a great fan. At the end of the day I would like to apologize to anyone that has felt offended by my post because that was not my intent.

Watches are supposed to bring us together not tear us apart
Thank you all for your time and contribution,
Ahmed

Unfortunately Ahmed some people, and not only on TRF, can not take the slightest discussion about something they are at 100% in, religion, politics, cars and in our case watches, not all people in the world are tolerant, many people think they hold the whole truth, and even discussing or asking a question is for them something horrible, I love Patek and when I said it was too bad that their minute repeaters had auto movements, as the manual ones are IMO, so much more beautiful, I got an answer basically saying who was I to even dare criticize a watch which was such a masterpiece, on which I totally agreed, the 5208P is a masterpiece, so many people can't stand even a simple discussion, I know amazing, but unfortunately such is the world, fortunately this is not the majority of people, but a minority, I find this totally childish but what are you gonna do about it... I enjoyed your post, and don't apologize for people who are intolerant and don't have the slightest sense of humor, you can't please everyone in life.

Cheers

Originally Posted by conkers

I think it is time to close this thread. It is just creating unnecessary animosity. To the OP it is not your fault at all it took a nasty turn. Thank you for posting.

I am a massive RM fan but have not felt the need to add my own views on this particular watch. In fact I post less and less recently as the "other watches" section of TRF seems to be becoming slightly less friendly and welcoming to everyone irrespective of their views.

Yes this is becoming amazing, loved the one about the 5208P, couldn't believe it...

Originally Posted by kunlun

Ahmed, I completely got it and it was very funny and very welcome.

Yes, a few people are sourpusses, but hopefully they can understand that it's okay to lighten the mood. A lot of interesting information was posted and I learned a lot about RM.

You have nothing to apologize for and I hope you continue making fun posts in the future.

Oh yes, do continue, hasn't stopped me, I have recently been attacked by 2 individuals everytime I posted a thread or a comment, doesn't matter, though it is too bad that TRF s taking this turn, would I be a moderator, I would give 2 warnings to the intolerant people or attackers, and if they don't understand by the 2nd, bye bye, don't matter if they are pillars of TRF and have been here for many years, this is a forum, not a cult, everyone has the right of thought and opinion...

[KarlS]

This is the first time I am looking at a RM thread and was only because I had been redirected here by a thread Roger posted on PP...I must say its significantly more entertaining than working out whether I will get a Daytona in 100 years, whether there will be a 40th Anniversary Nautilus or has the watch market tanked....however if we all liked the same thing we would never own it because demand would outstrip supply...

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by kunlun

Which of PP's mechanical movements are made outdide of PP, please?

Ah, you add the "mechanical" word now, how convenient. The original sentence I quoted was:

I know PP used to use other manufacturers' movements in some of the watches, but I think they are all in-house these days.

Anyways, last year Patek sold recently some new 5970, 5050, 3940, 5070, which are powered by Lemania movements.

Reference here.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by fmc000

Ah, you add the "mechanical" word now, how convenient. The original sentence I quoted was:



Anyways, last year Patek sold recently some new 5970, 5050, 3940, 5070, which are powered by Lemania movements.

Reference here.

Werent those models last produced in 2009 or thereabouts?

[conkers]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Werent those models last produced in 2009 or thereabouts?

They did some re issues for the big London event. The fact they did this obviously raised a few eyebrows and suggestions of opportunism.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Werent those models last produced in 2009 or thereabouts?

I believe he's referencing the small batch released to big collectors at the London exhibition

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by conkers

They did some re issues for the big London event. The fact they did this obviously raised a few eyebrows and suggestions of opportunism.

Originally Posted by GB-man

I believe he's referencing the small batch released to big collectors at the London exhibition

So they took a collector's item watch that was relatively low production and put more of them on the market, diluting the collectible value? I'm so glad I jumped ship on Patek awhile ago now. I thought their flooding the market with their newer pieces was bad enough, but rereleasing older pieces again after collectors believe the rarity/value is sealed is just outrageous...

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by fmc000

Ah, you add the "mechanical" word now, how convenient. The original sentence I quoted was:



Anyways, last year Patek sold recently some new 5970, 5050, 3940, 5070, which are powered by Lemania movements.

Reference here.

Well, that's interesting, and a tad more constructive than "wrong"!

PP releasing a very small number of watches with outsourced movements is not quite the same situation as another manufacture outsourcing 100% of their movements, however.

Seems we are all learning as we go along, which is what forums are for.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by Hollister

Well, that's interesting, and a tad more constructive than "wrong"!

PP releasing a very small number of watches with outsourced movements is not quite the same situation as another manufacture outsourcing 100% of their movements, however.

Seems we are all learning as we go along, which is what forums are for.

But if you were going to release a 5070 as a commemorative piec eand a limited edition then surely you would use the original movement which was outsourced. They had a load of blanks available and this watch is a LE not merely introducing the same watch. So I am not sure whether it dilutes existing 5070's as it has a completely different colour dial. PP have used only inhouse movements since I think 2010....

as for the reference to mechanical is the implication that the quartz movements are outsourced?

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

So they took a collector's item watch that was relatively low production and put more of them on the market, diluting the collectible value? I'm so glad I jumped ship on Patek awhile ago now. I thought their flooding the market with their newer pieces was bad enough, but rereleasing older pieces again after collectors believe the rarity/value is sealed is just outrageous...

But it would be great if they could release a 5575 in say blue so I can get one!!