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crowncollection · 2 August 2016, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

I was wondering why you would PM him David?

I got suckered mate, I gave away quite a few "tells" as he asked via pm claiming he was a watchmaker wanting to learn

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crowncollection · 2 August 2016, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

PM'd him?

I offered him a free place on my course!!

This is why we don't post details. He suckered you to obviously

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MonBK · 2 August 2016, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

PM'd him?
I offered him a free place on my course!!

Very generous of you.

Kiaraff · 2 August 2016, 06:31 AM

Fakewatchbusta is now working on exposing the "Trusted Seller" scam on rolexforums.com

http://fakewatchbusta.com

bdex75 · 2 August 2016, 07:40 AM

I am always leary of new members coming in and causing waves right up front. But as we have seen with another thread (not related to vintage pieces) a new member called out a fake and was spot on. Crazy watch world we live in.

This is why I am so hesitant (but so excited) to get into the vintage Rolex market.

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Knappo 1307 · 2 August 2016, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiaraff

Fakewatchbusta is now working on exposing the "Trusted Seller" scam on rolexforums.com

http://fakewatchbusta.com

This guy is a complete Assh*le. Can he be held liable? He's messing with a persons livelihood, on no basis whatsoever.

77T · 2 August 2016, 08:17 AM

Well, well...
A double agent. I wonder if other TRF user ID's were generated by them as "sleeper cells" for that same scam plan.

Can all traffic from an IP address be blocked? I realize DHCP may be used by here guys to thwart such efforts.

WatchOut and Who's Who may have other spurious members.

Tundra Trog · 2 August 2016, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

That's why we give no info to new members. I was too trusting as he represented himself as a watchmaker

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I guess that means my query will fall on deaf ears.

tylerad1 · 2 August 2016, 08:34 AM

God bless this website! Always watching out for us. Thanks!

dysondiver · 2 August 2016, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Just FYI, guys, the recently banned and very active member marcusjcw21 (the one who was supporting WatchGroupCorp so strongly today, and calling out fakes 20 times a day for the last two weeks) is also WatchGroupCorp aka SuperiorVintageWatches, or at least operating from the same IP address.

well done sir , once again

southtexas · 2 August 2016, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Post # 16.

Thanks, I missed that.

What a strange MO this guy had??!!

He came on here and posted fake/questionable ebay watches day in and day out, but for what purpose? I actually felt bad for him; I pictured him in a hospital bed or some other confined condition, with only ebay and TRF Watch-out to keep him company. That's probably the strangest banning I've seen around here. Can't wait until he retreads himself and appears with a new game.

Edit: I just checked out his website. Apparently, he's kinda pissed at Mr. Morgan.

He's also threatening to set up a bunch of shill buyers to entrap trusted sellers into lowering customs declarations, avoid taxes, etc.

In summary: oh, the irony. A guy dedicated to busting fake watches on social media supplements his income by selling fake watches on social media.

southtexas · 2 August 2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

I got suckered mate, I gave away quite a few "tells" as he asked via pm claiming he was a watchmaker wanting to learn

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Don't sweat it...you're extremely generous with your time and knowledge and I'm glad you take that time to help others out. When I first started here, you trusted me and helped me expedite my education. Because of you and others sharing what you know, I now am able to do the same for others.

freefly · 2 August 2016, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by southtexas

In summary: oh, the irony. A guy dedicated to busting fake watches on social media supplements his income by selling fake watches on social media.

I think the guy has serious mental issues, and I doubt that he is the real "fakewatchbusta".

southtexas · 2 August 2016, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by freefly

I think the guy has serious mental issues, and I doubt that he is the real "fakewatchbusta".

Yep probably right.

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J!m · 2 August 2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Just FYI, guys, the recently banned and very active member marcusjcw21 (the one who was supporting WatchGroupCorp so strongly today, and calling out fakes 20 times a day for the last two weeks) is also WatchGroupCorp aka SuperiorVintageWatches, or at least operating from the same IP address.

Wasn't he the guy calling out everything on eBay that may have been fake? If so, it seems to me now that he was testing us (well, you guys who know stuff, not so much me) to see if we could catch the fakes...

I thought that guy was a bit odd but I had no idea of a connection.

J!m · 2 August 2016, 11:22 AM

Ok. Yep. That's the guy.

Just read this entire thread and the other one with two topics running concurrently... I have a minor aneurism now but all I can say is WOW. This is like cloak and dagger stuff.

Plus, I'm unemployed right now and don't have time for that much bull typing, quoting etc. what does this guy do?

Even after all that, I still don't see the end game. Just to try to lend credibility to a scanner watch seller? Why bother?

freefly · 2 August 2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tundra Trog

I guess that means my query will fall on deaf ears.

No, it's just been a wee bit crazy here over the last couple days. Also, what I believe David was referring to is the divulging of detailed information regarding what certain "tells" are, which can be useful information to counterfeiters and "custom" watch builders.
Opinions on authenticity can be given without divulging the reasons "why".

Also, you would probably be better served by bumping your original thread, rather than posting the above in this one.

BNA/LION · 2 August 2016, 12:09 PM

Thanks for the heads up!

Tundra Trog · 2 August 2016, 12:10 PM

Freefly,

I had noticed the "craziness" thats for sure. I see your point now about divulging tells. Like I said, I am a total neophyte. I hope I havent offended anyone, that was not my intention.

I saw your reply to my post and will comment on it, but in the OP

crowncollection · 2 August 2016, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by southtexas

Don't sweat it...you're extremely generous with your time and knowledge and I'm glad you take that time to help others out. When I first started here, you trusted me and helped me expedite my education. Because of you and others sharing what you know, I now am able to do the same for others.

Thanks for the kind words

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bdex75 · 2 August 2016, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by J!m

Wasn't he the guy calling out everything on eBay that may have been fake? If so, it seems to me now that he was testing us (well, you guys who know stuff, not so much me) to see if we could catch the fakes...

I thought that guy was a bit odd but I had no idea of a connection.

That was him. My spidey sense kinda peaked a little but not enough to make me call someone out with the limited amount of knowledge I have. The watchmaker part kinda made me question myself as well.

I think he was just trying to build a name for himself in the vintage part of the forum so that he could eventually pull his Ebay shenanigans over here once everyone trusted him.

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Knappo 1307 · 3 August 2016, 01:23 AM

Why is the listing still up? I've reported it 3 times. Anyone else report it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322209712442

southtexas · 3 August 2016, 02:38 AM

Reported

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Syed117 · 3 August 2016, 03:53 AM

Wow.

Had a feeling that guy was going to get banned. Did not see all the extra drama coming.

So he's not the real fakewatchbusta from instagram. Just a poser trying to use the name.

Couldn't be the real guy considering that the real fakewatchbusta has posted about DavidSW on his instragram. So any online threats to "expose" the trusted sellers has to be the imposter just throwing a tantrum.

freefly · 3 August 2016, 07:47 AM

Just nudged most of his listings again. We shall see...

crowncollection · 3 August 2016, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by freefly

Just nudged most of his listings again. We shall see...

Nice work btw investigating this guy

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janice&fred · 3 August 2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

I got suckered mate, I gave away quite a few "tells" as he asked via pm claiming he was a watchmaker wanting to learn

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i don't think you gave away anything as even the most minute differences between the real and clone 3135's are common knowledge and discussed on many sites. other small differences he seemed to focus on with vintage dials, cases and other topics have also been discussed in depth elsewhere as well. the info is out there if someone is looking for it so it's very doubtful his motive was to find new info here.

anyone who spews as much hysterical drama always sets off red flags in my head. i think the guy was just testing the waters to see what people here know, along with trying to cast doubt on pretty much any popular collector/dealer/seller that happened to be the topic of discussion. the more controversy on the forum over the smallest details on opponents' watches the more likely his own sh$t may fly under the radar.

Vanmarsenille · 3 August 2016, 10:53 AM

Wow. I just can't believe the lengths some people will go to, to rip other people off. What a horrible way to live your life.

htbilgic · 3 August 2016, 03:26 PM

Apperantly, he was business partners with Steven Seagal:
http://fakewatchbusta.com/index.php?...498&Itemid=101

This is too funny!

janice&fred · 3 August 2016, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by htbilgic

Apperantly, he was business partners with Steven Seagal:
http://fakewatchbusta.com/index.php?...498&Itemid=101

This is too funny!

Steven Seagal? well could be you just never know. yesterday i spotted Elvis working the Mcdo drive thru window here in cebu city. honest.

2 August 2016, 07:40 AM	#35
bdex75 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Brandon Location: Indianapolis Watch: my money vanish Posts: 8,506	Our old friend is back at it again.. I am always leary of new members coming in and causing waves right up front. But as we have seen with another thread (not related to vintage pieces) a new member called out a fake and was spot on. Crazy watch world we live in. This is why I am so hesitant (but so excited) to get into the vintage Rolex market. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 August 2016, 08:17 AM	#37
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,010	Well, well... A double agent. I wonder if other TRF user ID's were generated by them as "sleeper cells" for that same scam plan. Can all traffic from an IP address be blocked? I realize DHCP may be used by here guys to thwart such efforts. WatchOut and Who's Who may have other spurious members. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

2 August 2016, 12:09 PM	#48
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3 August 2016, 02:38 AM	#53
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,763	Reported Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

3 August 2016, 03:53 AM	#54
Syed117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Syed Location: The Ether Posts: 3,388	Wow. Had a feeling that guy was going to get banned. Did not see all the extra drama coming. So he's not the real fakewatchbusta from instagram. Just a poser trying to use the name. Couldn't be the real guy considering that the real fakewatchbusta has posted about DavidSW on his instragram. So any online threats to "expose" the trusted sellers has to be the imposter just throwing a tantrum. Attached Images

2 August 2016, 06:31 AM	#34
Kiaraff "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 116	Fakewatchbusta is now working on exposing the "Trusted Seller" scam on rolexforums.com http://fakewatchbusta.com

2 August 2016, 08:34 AM	#39
tylerad1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: MI Posts: 812	God bless this website! Always watching out for us. Thanks!

2 August 2016, 11:22 AM	#46
J!m "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Jim Location: Connecticut Watch: this! Hold my beer Posts: 2,839	Ok. Yep. That's the guy. Just read this entire thread and the other one with two topics running concurrently... I have a minor aneurism now but all I can say is WOW. This is like cloak and dagger stuff. Plus, I'm unemployed right now and don't have time for that much bull typing, quoting etc. what does this guy do? Even after all that, I still don't see the end game. Just to try to lend credibility to a scanner watch seller? Why bother?

2 August 2016, 12:10 PM	#49
Tundra Trog "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 30	Freefly, I had noticed the "craziness" thats for sure. I see your point now about divulging tells. Like I said, I am a total neophyte. I hope I havent offended anyone, that was not my intention. I saw your reply to my post and will comment on it, but in the OP

3 August 2016, 01:23 AM	#52
Knappo 1307 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,561	Why is the listing still up? I've reported it 3 times. Anyone else report it? http://www.ebay.com/itm/322209712442

3 August 2016, 07:47 AM	#55
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	Just nudged most of his listings again. We shall see...

3 August 2016, 10:53 AM	#58
Vanmarsenille "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: FLA Posts: 401	Wow. I just can't believe the lengths some people will go to, to rip other people off. What a horrible way to live your life.

3 August 2016, 03:26 PM	#59
htbilgic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Chicago Watch: Doxa Pro 300 NoT Posts: 535	Apperantly, he was business partners with Steven Seagal: http://fakewatchbusta.com/index.php?...498&Itemid=101 This is too funny!

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