Dealing with ulcers.... Any advice?

[BBL]

The VTC Guy:

I have plenty experience, lots of stress and stomach pain throughout the years.
This is my list of ingredients to attack an ulcer (helped heal my stomach bleeding ulcers faster than doc predicted) because I supplemented the following nutraceuticals and foods (through my own online research) with his prescription of brand name Nexium.

Get from health food store:

..Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice (DGL) (not typical licorice candy): A special licorice extract for peptic ulcers (duodenal and gastric) http://doctormurray.com/dgl-for-peptic-ulcers/

..zinc l-carnosine http://www.naturalmedicinejournal.co...zinc-carnosine

..licorice tea http://www.licoricetea.org/Stomach-Ulcers/

..probiotics

..aloe vera gel or juice (organic from health food store)

..blanched almonds (from grocery store)
..honey
..yogurt
..boiled cabbage juice
..bananas

if you do drink milk, new evidence indicates in long run it may not help.
Add a bit of sugar to milk is the new advice.... to break down acid.

http://www.healthline.com/health/nat...edies-ulcers#2

Years ago, I developed ulcer while on Prevacid, which did not resolve when prescribed Prilosec. Only medication that doc and I found was best for me was: brand name Nexium, no generics.

I'm OK now, but I am careful about food selections. Of course, can't always control the left turns in life resulting in stress, which in my case did contribute to my ulcers, twice.
If I get break through discomfort from food now, such as restaurant prepared meal where I don't know what spices they use, I will pop a low dose Pepcid, then all is good. I take brand Nexium 20mg daily. Worried about bone health, have tried to wean off Nexium, but have not been successful.

And do avoid from NSAIDS, aspirin, alcohol, coffee, beef, spices, all the stuff others here have mentioned.

Scores of links on internet about addressing stomach ulcer woes.

PM me if needed. Will be glad to help, as have been there, done that.

Blessings,
DM

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by subtona

Paul, I have not read all posts above so sorry if this is repeated.

my mom was suffering and in her education she was told that newer information indicates ulcers are the product of bacteria to be treated with antibiotics, not necessarily what you are eating and the stress you are under.

Thanks Gus, my conclusion is it is a combination of things, with stress being a catalyst for me. The bacteria is called... helicopterpyri- Or something like that. There are a couple natural remedies that I have picked up and started the last couple days.

Originally Posted by Jocke

So you think I should log out for a month so you can heal?

Jocke... I couldn't live without you in my life

Originally Posted by BBL

The VTC Guy:

I have plenty experience, lots of stress and stomach pain throughout the years.
This is my list of ingredients to attack an ulcer (helped heal my stomach bleeding ulcers faster than doc predicted) because I supplemented the following nutraceuticals and foods (through my own online research) with his prescription of brand name Nexium.

Get from health food store:

..Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice (DGL) (not typical licorice candy): A special licorice extract for peptic ulcers (duodenal and gastric) http://doctormurray.com/dgl-for-peptic-ulcers/

..zinc l-carnosine http://www.naturalmedicinejournal.co...zinc-carnosine

..licorice tea http://www.licoricetea.org/Stomach-Ulcers/

..probiotics

..aloe vera gel or juice (organic from health food store)

..blanched almonds (from grocery store)
..honey
..yogurt
..boiled cabbage juice
..bananas

if you do drink milk, new evidence indicates in long run it may not help.
Add a bit of sugar to milk is the new advice.... to break down acid.

http://www.healthline.com/health/nat...edies-ulcers#2

Years ago, I developed ulcer while on Prevacid, which did not resolve when prescribed Prilosec. Only medication that doc and I found was best for me was: brand name Nexium, no generics.

I'm OK now, but I am careful about food selections. Of course, can't always control the left turns in life resulting in stress, which in my case did contribute to my ulcers, twice.
If I get break through discomfort from food now, such as restaurant prepared meal where I don't know what spices they use, I will pop a low dose Pepcid, then all is good. I take brand Nexium 20mg daily. Worried about bone health, have tried to wean off Nexium, but have not been successful.

And do avoid from NSAIDS, aspirin, alcohol, coffee, beef, spices, all the stuff others here have mentioned.

Scores of links on internet about addressing stomach ulcer woes.

PM me if needed. Will be glad to help, as have been there, done that.

Blessings,
DM

Thanks DM, I have started some of the treatments you mentioned. You are the only one that mentioned the sugar in milk, I read that on the internet and started today.

[Etschell]

I have none but hopefully things get better for you asap.

[rph08]

Hi Paul...Sorry for all the troubles you're dealing with. It sounds like you really have your hands full. Add to that the building anxiety over what new models will be released at Basel, and it's a miracle we all don't have ulcers! Your doctor can test for the presence of H. pylori, and if found then there are several treatment regimens commonly used to eradicate the bacteria. Prevacid, nexium, and Prilosec are also commonly used as stand alone treatment. Your dental woes may present another problem. Dentist love to use NSAIDs, especially higher doses of ibuprofen (600-800mg), and for good reasons because they're great drugs...The problem is NSAIDs will make your ulcer worse, or at least prolong the healing process. Finally, and this is unlikely, but has your doctor ruled out your gall bladder as the culprit, or has the ulcer been confirmed?

[GerardoG]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

You know... my ulcers seem to get really bad whenever I read a post from Jocke

...so you found the origin

[Urosfan]

Originally Posted by Sierrarls

Paul, have you had an endoscopy? Did your gastroenterologist check for h pylori (bacteria that can cause an ulcer)? There are other causes for ulcer disease that need to be excluded. You may want to see another gastro- for a second opinion. Just my two cents from this newbie.

X2 def get a endoscopy if you haven't, I would also add to what others have said and Avoid soda and carbonated beverages to the list.

[michaelodonnell123]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Ah... the gluten is the source of all evils argument. I'll go with the MD on this one.

Going with the MD hasn't been working, so why continue down that path? The doctor should have immediately recommended giving up gluten for a month to see how the patient feels. It is free to try and the best way to find out if he is gluten intolerant or at the very least find out if the gluten is aggravating the ulcers. The fact that he did not suggest trying this is very concerning.

I have seen amazing results from people who had ulcers that gave up gluten. They became healthy again, their constant pain went away and their quality of life was way up.

Yet, you would recommend that he does not try this free experiment and live in misery.

For the record. I eat gluten, as it does not affect me. But if I were in his shoes, I would give it a shot. OP watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNAyjFaRnjU

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by michaelodonnell123

Going with the MD hasn't been working, so why continue down that path? The doctor should have immediately recommended giving up gluten for a month to see how the patient feels. It is free to try and the best way to find out if he is gluten intolerant or at the very least find out if the gluten is aggravating the ulcers. The fact that he did not suggest trying this is very concerning.

I have seen amazing results from people who had ulcers that gave up gluten. They became healthy again, their constant pain went away and their quality of life was way up.

Yet, you would recommend that he does not try this free experiment and live in misery.

For the record. I eat gluten, as it does not affect me. But if I were in his shoes, I would give it a shot. OP watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNAyjFaRnjU

I think going with the doctors recommendations, based on a medical exam and diagnosis, is always better than jumping straight to an alternative medicine regime.

Your recommendation is to skip any likely causes and go straight to a condition that doesn't affect many people. That's dangerous and irresponsible IMO.

[michaelodonnell123]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I think going with the doctors recommendations, based on a medical exam and diagnosis, is always better than jumping straight to an alternative medicine regime.

Your recommendation is to skip any likely causes and go straight to a condition that doesn't affect many people. That's dangerous and irresponsible IMO.

Giving up gluten is not 'alternative' medicine, in fact it is not medicine at all. It a diet modification. He already did the medical exam and got the diagnoses which was "I don't know what is wrong with you so good luck". At this point he needs to help himself.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by michaelodonnell123

Giving up gluten is not 'alternative' medicine, in fact it is not medicine at all. It a diet modification. He already did the medical exam and got the diagnoses which was "I don't know what is wrong with you so good luck". At this point he needs to help himself.

His doctor prescribed antacids and a diet modification. That's pretty far from not knowing what's wrong. The only thing he didn't do was leap onto the gluten bandwagon, which doesn't make him a quack, it just makes him different than you.

This gluten is evil fad is the new snake oil (coffee is bad, no wait it's good; eggs are bad, no wait they're good, etc.). Unless a doctor has identified an individual with gluten sensitivity, there is no reason to chase that down the rabbit hole. It's a distraction that interferes with resolving the condition. Paul is in good hands with his doctor, that treatment cured me without blaming wheat for my problems.

[MrGMT]

Take some bicarbonate soda and mastic gum with probiotics daily and it will heal up fast

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I think going with the doctors recommendations, based on a medical exam and diagnosis, is always better than jumping straight to an alternative medicine regime.

Your recommendation is to skip any likely causes and go straight to a condition that doesn't affect many people. That's dangerous and irresponsible IMO.

Hey, if you can't trust anonymous watch forum members for your medical advice then who can you trust?

You can't seriously think a doc with 8 years of advanced schooling, plus residency, and possibly additional fellowship training, knows more?

[beer]

alcohol

[Andad]

Alcohol worked for me.....

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Tony64

Hey, if you can't trust anonymous watch forum members for your medical advice then who can you trust?

You can't seriously think a doc with 8 years of advanced schooling, plus residency, and possibly additional fellowship training, knows more?

What was I thinking?

[TheVTCGuy]

Thanks everyone, feeling better today. (Maybe) surprisingly, whenever I feel a bout coming on, glass of milk with sugar seems to alleviate symptoms pretty well

[Sperry]

That is a very long paragraph. I started to go crosseyed. To avoid stress, I went right to the answer box here.

Simplify your life. Cut out 90% of everything. That includes cable TV.

Stop watching or reading the news. Put your money in mutual funds. Eat more fruit.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Thanks everyone, feeling better today. (Maybe) surprisingly, whenever I feel a bout coming on, glass of milk with sugar seems to alleviate symptoms pretty well

Is that gluten free milk and sugar?

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Is that gluten free milk and sugar?

Of course Abdullah! Don't be silly. . It was also milked from vegan cows....

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Of course Abdullah! Don't be silly. . It was also milked from vegan cows....

GMO free?

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

GMO free?

Definitely, and the cows were sernded by harp music every night.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Definitely, and the cows were sernded by harp music every night.

You're golden!

[Boothroyd]

Paul, no advice to provide, just hope things settle down for you on all fronts very soon!

[MrGMT]

Originally Posted by Tony64

Hey, if you can't trust anonymous watch forum members for your medical advice then who can you trust?

You can't seriously think a doc with 8 years of advanced schooling, plus residency, and possibly additional fellowship training, knows more?

Listen I'm not bashing doctors well I kind of am but hear me out. I have a family member who is a doctor and all doctors know very little about natural health there only interested in giving your drugs that makes big pharmaceutical companies money.
My uncle says it's like a overflowing water tap doctors are taught how to mop up the mess they would never dream of turning the tap off.
I've had h pylori and ulcers in the past and doctors just want to throw antibiotics at you that are not good for you to start with. Completely cured it myself in 2 weeks after my uncle told me about bicarbonate soda and mastic gum with probiotics daily, it's been gone for around two years now.

[MrGMT]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Thanks everyone, feeling better today. (Maybe) surprisingly, whenever I feel a bout coming on, glass of milk with sugar seems to alleviate symptoms pretty well

Milk and sugar are very bad for your body I'd be amazed if it's helpful try alkalising your body

[amg55]

I bet you're totally confused by now with all the well meaning suggestions, some are better than others. Ultimately, only you and your trusted doctor/specialist can find the best course of treatment for you. All the best, I hope you'll beat it soon.