Everose Gold Changing Color

[CrazyMD]

Anyone have experience with Rolex everose gold changing color? My friend has a Daytona he got a few years ago. Rose gold. Compared to mine, the color has clearly changed. It looks like a very faded rose gold. Almost like a weird yellow gold color. It's very clearly different color.

We took it to RSC and at first they said the color had not changed. Then I pulled my watch out for comparison and all of a sudden the song and dance came out.

They basically said they would polish it and service it and that the color would come back. I don't see how that will happen. I'm now worried the same thing will happen to my watch over time.








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[imperio]

Originally Posted by CrazyMD

They basically said they would polish it and service it and that the color would come back.

At their cost?




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[116500LN]

I thought the whole point of the Everose meme branding was because it stayed forever rose-colored.

[SpyShops718]

I went to my dads (72 years) house last summer with my rose gold presidential and he told me that I have a nice watch and that he never knew Rolexes come in copper.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by 116500LN

I thought the whole point of the Everose meme branding was because it stayed forever rose-colored.

Ha. Ive never made that connection, seems obvious now. Ever-Rose

Sounds like a case for the relevant advertising standards authority

[CrazyMD]

Originally Posted by imperio

At their cost?




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Nope. Cost of service. I told him if the color doesn't come back to just sue Rolex for false advertising. That's what I would do if my $40k rose gold watch that's advertised to stay rose gold changes color.


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[CrazyMD]

Originally Posted by 116500LN

I thought the whole point of the Everose meme branding was because it stayed forever rose-colored.

Me too. That's why I'm asking.


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[Lol-x]

Interesting.....
I'm not really sure what is going on...
Maybe the scratches in the metal make it look lighter in colour.
At least the Rose Gold is not going darker i.e. tarnishing, then one might be forgiven for thinking it was copper
I haven't had a Rose Gold watch long enough to be able to say that I have experienced a change of colour.
I don't think the metals used by Rolex to make the Rose Gold are light sensitive.
So, I'm kind of unsure what might be happening here as this is the first case I've come across.

[CrazyMD]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Interesting.....
I'm not really sure what is going on...
Maybe the scratches in the metal make it look lighter in colour.
At least the Rose Gold is not going darker i.e. tarnishing, then one might be forgiven for thinking it was copper
I haven't had a Rose Gold watch long enough to be able to say that I have experienced a change of colour.
I don't think the metals used by Rolex to make the Rose Gold are light sensitive.
So, I'm kind of unsure what might be happening here as this is the first case I've come across.

It's definitely not the scratches. The gold is very faded. The pictures don't show it as well... but to the eye it is CLEARLY faded. It's a weird color that I can't even explain...the watch just looks terrible.

Also. It was worn daily and never taken off the wrist. Used in pools, ocean, sun, etc.


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[GMT Aviator]

Maybe Rolex have changed the blend of copper to gold mix in your watch, making it more 'rose' like.
I find it impossible to believe any rose gold alloy will fade.

[peterpl]

Why dont you post a shot of this and your newish one so we can all see the difference?

Hard to tell without a side by side

[P2725TMB]

Out of interest is the gold on the inside (protected against wrist) the same colour?

[CrazyMD]

Originally Posted by P2725TMB

Out of interest is the gold on the inside (protected against wrist) the same colour?

Yes


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[CrazyMD]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Why dont you post a shot of this and your newish one so we can all see the difference?

Hard to tell without a side by side

Watch is at RSC now.


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[TG3N]

There is still a clear rose/copper tint to the gold in each of those photos though, and especially the last one.

I'm not an optical or materials expert, but I suspect it's something to do with the amount of scratches on the gold - look how worn that bracelet is, the polished centre links are almost indiscernible from the brushed/satin links to either side.

Again, I'm not an expert, but as the human eye perceives colour from lightwaves bouncing/reflecting off an object into the eye, then it's sensible that any change in surface texture will have a knock-on effect on how the waves are reflected and the item is then perceived.

I have polished up old bracelets before, where the polished steel has become 'cloudy'/dulled (for want of a better expression) by many, many micro-scratches over the years, and polishing brings that lustre back to life.

As stated already, a look at the (presumably less scratched) inside of the bracelet would be helpful.

I suspect that a polish would restore the look, but at the owner's cost. It's still a lovely & well-used piece, however.

[Andad]

Gold amalgams do tarnish.

[Lol-x]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Gold amalgams do tarnish.

But the claim is not tarnishing, but fading (lightening).

Rose Gold is 18k Gold + Tungston + Copper I think...

[Wahlberg]

No comparison pic? I guess the watch you showed is your friends?

[Quailhunter]

Copper is a very reactive metal. I'd ask a specialist if it is possible the copper in the gold alloy has reacted to something and changed color.

[meganfox17]

There is a simple logical explanation to the mystery of the fading Everose Gold Daytona

My impression is that Rolex is now using a new and improved Everose Gold -Platinum-Copper alloy formula with slightly different %%% in chemical composition.The older ones had fading issues but developed a "pretty pinkish patina" the newer models are perhaps bullet-proof against the ravages of time....

Top Photo : Lt DD Old vs Rt New
Bottom photo : Faded DD

[kilyung]

It's not difficult to explain. Rolex changes the composition of its gold from time to time and the color can also be slightly different from batch to batch - they don't make their gold all at once. Furthermore the surface of an alloy can oxidize or even look different over time due to wear. IIRC Rolex started producing their gold in house in the early 2000 period. Prior to that it was outsourced. Polishing the watch should restore it to its original color and look.

[116500LN]

How old is the Daytona? I think Rolex started using the gold mix known as Everose around 2008. Maybe this Daytona is made of regular 18k RG?

[padi56]

Rolex started to call it Everose gold from around 2008/9 when they added a bit extra to the general gold mix 75% gold 25% other alloys.Now with Everose a tiny amount of Platinum is added to the copper gold alloy mix which supposed to keep its colour over the years.But all gold will tarnish with body sweat and with certain chemicals but with a professional polish the colour should come back.

[OgSnowflake]

A polish will bring it back to life. Will it be as rose as your friends dunno couldn't tell ya but it will come back.

Think of it like this .... when you do the most extreme polishing to car paint you wet sand ... after you wet sand the car looks like death dull hazy completely diff color and you wanna cry(stage your watch is in) but then after the first compounding pass those deep sand marks and haze start lookin better and better and the gloss comes back.... and by the time you're on the last softest pad you have gleaming paint or in your case rose gold.

Wouldn't worry one bit

[henry333]

Old or new rose gold will change color.. just like white gold. The color will change because the original gold or metal will try to come out. But Rolex has the best non or slow changing colored gold. Other brand of gold changes a lot faster compare to the older Rolex colored gold. Supposedly the new one won't change or at least not much at all.

[AboutTime]

Yes, my rose gold Day Date 118235 experienced a gradual color shift over the years and eventually appeared to be half-way between rose gold and yellow gold. A recent service changed the color back to a more typical rose gold hue. My AD couldn't tell me how RSC effected the color change.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by padi56

Rolex started to call it Everose gold from around 2008/9 when they added a bit extra to the general gold mix 75% gold 25% other alloys.Now with Everose a tiny amount of Platinum is added to the copper gold alloy mix which supposed to keep its colour over the years.But all gold will tarnish with body sweat and with certain chemicals but with a professional polish the colour should come back.

Yes, a good polish should restore it to original everose post 2008 condition. Ask Rolex to do just that or find a pro. If it doesn't, I'd have strong issues with Rolex, as that bit of platinum in the mix alone accounts for the £2K premium over the gold model.

[albmich]

That watch looks spectacular. Do not polish it and leave it alone please.

[logan5tx]

I have a 2004 Two-Tone Turnograph with rose gold center links and bezel. Over the past 2-3 years I've been doing double takes at it because the gold seems to have completely lost all rose and looks basically like yellow gold now. I even had to double check the receipt and paperwork to be sure it actually said rose gold; which it did. I just bought a bluesy about a month ago and looking at the two side by side I could see no difference what so ever between the "rose" gold in the turnograph vs the yellow gold in the bluesy.

[dr35mm]

Originally Posted by kilyung

It's not difficult to explain. Rolex changes the composition of its gold from time to time and the color can also be slightly different from batch to batch - they don't make their gold all at once. Furthermore the surface of an alloy can oxidize or even look different over time due to wear. IIRC Rolex started producing their gold in house in the early 2000 period. Prior to that it was outsourced. Polishing the watch should restore it to its original color and look.

This.

Btw, the watch seems heavily worn so I don't think it's a "color change" more like a change in how light plays and bounces off the gold, giving the impression of color change. I'm very sure that polishing the watch lightly will fix it.


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