Alternative to Rolex GMT Pepsi! WOW!

[NLYogi]

It is a beautiful watch with a GMT function. Nice blued GMT hand, overall looking good. But as said it does not kill the Pepsi.

[TudorTuesday]

I'm pretty sure the OP is trying to start a brawl, or poke fun at the "but it's a Seiko..." crowd, but I'll take the bait anyhow.

I think 0.00 people are cross-shopping a hi-beat Grand Seiko, and a near-tool watch from Rolex.

The Seiko appeals to a small group of folks who truly appreciate the pinnacle of old-world craftsmanship and finish complexity, married with the most precise and accurate mechanicals of modern times. The Grand Seiko is beyond reproach from a horological perspective, is produced in small numbers, and will always be a standard bearer for what's possible in watch making. It's likely meant to be appreciated for what it is inside, and perhaps only amongst "those in the know." It's an introvert of a watch.

The Rolex is, on the other hand, is a total extrovert. It's an icon, a status symbol, and a workhorse. Evolutionary in it's design, both visually and mechanically, it's the proven, safe play. It's not meant to challenge current tastes, nor push the envelope of horology, but rather to provide lasting service in all conditions, fit easily into existing perception of quality and value, and look good for a long time.

Both are excellent watches. Both tell time, in multiple time zones. But they are very dissimilar in almost every other way.

Any collector who owns both is truly a watch lover without bias or prejudice... And a lucky sonofagun, to boot!

[Rashid.bk]

What matters is that you like it. I would have just posted it in the Seiko forum, a comparison to "kill" an icon is futile, even trollish...

[Danwealth]

Originally Posted by singkwokhk

I think this is the Rolex GMT Pepsi killer!

Beautiful I m just loving it

You would get a better response posting this thread in watchuseek..

Here in this forum at least half of the members are rolex fanboys who think rolex is the pinnancle in watchmaking

[Temporizer]

A Seiko. Only a Seiko. Still a Seiko.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by T01

Glad, someone is paying attention.

[Danwealth]

Originally Posted by Temporizer

A Seiko. Only a Seiko. Still a Seiko.

Lamborgini is owned by VW.. So would u say a lamborghini is still a VW?

BTW, nothing wrong with VW cars.. i drive one

[RazorD]

That’s a great GS GMT, but I think it’s different enough that they won’t compete with each other. Read: feel free to buy both ;)

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

It’s a beautiful watch. Congratulations if you have bought it Nothing at all wrong with a Grand Seiko- in many ways as distinguished as Rolex, as good as a Rolex and highly appreciated in Asia.

It has one other huge advantage over a Rolex as well - it’s available.

x2.

OP, you should have put this thread in the Seiko section at the start, if you wanted more rational discussion like the comment above

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by TudorTuesday

I'm pretty sure the OP is trying to start a brawl, or poke fun at the "but it's a Seiko..." crowd, but I'll take the bait anyhow.

I think 0.00 people are cross-shopping a hi-beat Grand Seiko, and a near-tool watch from Rolex.

The Seiko appeals to a small group of folks who truly appreciate the pinnacle of old-world craftsmanship and finish complexity, married with the most precise and accurate mechanicals of modern times. The Grand Seiko is beyond reproach from a horological perspective, is produced in small numbers, and will always be a standard bearer for what's possible in watch making. It's likely meant to be appreciated for what it is inside, and perhaps only amongst "those in the know." It's an introvert of a watch.

The Rolex is, on the other hand, is a total extrovert. It's an icon, a status symbol, and a workhorse. Evolutionary in it's design, both visually and mechanically, it's the proven, safe play. It's not meant to challenge current tastes, nor push the envelope of horology, but rather to provide lasting service in all conditions, fit easily into existing perception of quality and value, and look good for a long time.

Both are excellent watches. Both tell time, in multiple time zones. But they are very dissimilar in almost every other way.

Any collector who owns both is truly a watch lover without bias or prejudice... And a lucky sonofagun, to boot!

Another x2

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by Onikage

I can't get past 'but it's a Seiko' either. A finely finished amazing Seiko but still a Seiko none the less - A brand that makes watches ranging from inexpensive China-made all the way up to Rolex-priced masterpieces from Japan. I quite like a Seiko but not enough to pay thousands for one made and finished to haute horology standards. Also more Japanese wear Rolexes anyway. Says something.

A classic post displaying all the true hallmarks of ignorance and brand snobbery/slavery!
How many pieces each year do Rolex make?
How many mechanical pieces (inc. Spring Drives and sister brands Galante and Credor, and LE Prospex) do Seiko hand assemble at their two specialist studios?
Forget the millions of movements produced annually for their own and 3rd party products - that’s a complete irrelevance.

To make it easy for you, I’ve mentioned these numbers in previous posts.

[Frogman]

Its a lovely watch but apples and oranges as far as design and style goes.

[Iflylo]

It is a very beautiful timepiece, very well made and will last many lifetimes.

I do appreciate your enthusiasm for your new watch. Wear it well.

[1William]

I like it but think the Tudor GMT is the real competition for the Rolex GMT.

[Bt122]

No Habla engles

[singkwokhk]

Originally Posted by SoCal_Batman

Whaaaaaat? This is like comparing a Chevy Malibu to a Chevy Corvette, there is absolutely no comparison to be made. One is iconic and the other is well...a Seiko.

First of all, Rolex is not even an American brand. So the analogy does not make sense. It is true that American cars are like crapy Seiko watches!

[singkwokhk]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Another x2

I agree wholeheartedly. We are all slaves to the Rolex marketing machine, which tell us how "special" they are. What a load of ...

[singkwokhk]

Originally Posted by directioneng

A Seiko?

A true watch fan loves all types of watches!

[singkwokhk]

Originally Posted by coxswain

Sorry, OP. I don't mean to dispirit you. But this Tudor BB GMT looks much nicer than Seiko GMT. All other members here would choose Tudor over Seiko anytime.

A poor man's Rolex GMT:

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/tudor-b...t-wrist-watch/

You have a nice Tudor Watch. But at the end of the day, your Tudor is a lower end Rolex!

[Bt122]

I love seiko’s Not sure how this is an alternative tho.

[codecow]

Maybe you were thinking of this?

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by PJ S

A classic post displaying all the true hallmarks of ignorance and brand snobbery/slavery!
How many pieces each year do Rolex make?
How many mechanical pieces (inc. Spring Drives and sister brands Galante and Credor, and LE Prospex) do Seiko hand assemble at their two specialist studios?
Forget the millions of movements produced annually for their own and 3rd party products - that’s a complete irrelevance.

To make it easy for you, I’ve mentioned these numbers in previous posts.

I'll stick with Rolex thanks.

[PJ S]

^
A shame that you would deny yourself the opportunity to get past your blinkered viewpoint.
Maybe a read will change your stance on what a Grand Seiko actually represents – http://www.thewatchsite.com/files/A%...0in%20Time.pdf

[benlee]

Originally Posted by tjbender

I get that GS produces great movements but at the end of the day it’s a Seiko. If you like it great but it will NEVER be a Rolex.

Originally Posted by coxswain

Sorry, OP. I don't mean to dispirit you. But this Tudor BB GMT looks much nicer than Seiko GMT. All other members here would choose Tudor over Seiko anytime.

Originally Posted by Onikage

I can't get past 'but it's a Seiko' either. A finely finished amazing Seiko but still a Seiko none the less - A brand that makes watches ranging from inexpensive China-made all the way up to Rolex-priced masterpieces from Japan. I quite like a Seiko but not enough to pay thousands for one made and finished to haute horology standards. Also more Japanese wear Rolexes anyway. Says something.

Some of the ignorance in this thread....

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by PJ S

^
A shame that you would deny yourself the opportunity to get past your blinkered viewpoint.
Maybe a read will change your stance on what a Grand Seiko actually represents – http://www.thewatchsite.com/files/A%...0in%20Time.pdf

Dude if you like them great. They're cool, ok? Not anywhere near on my radar. Anyone with just a few watches who has bought one must be a huge Seiko fan.

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by benlee

Some of the ignorance in this thread....

Tut tut, Ben – why aren’t you wearing a watch today?

[Paul_I]

Uhhhhhhhhhhh. No. I like GS a lot and respect the quality, but threads like this contribute to the ignorance GS lovers rant about. Calling any GS a "Rolex Pepsi GMT Killer" is flat out dumb.

[Paul_I]

Originally Posted by PJ S

^
A shame that you would deny yourself the opportunity to get past your blinkered viewpoint.
Maybe a read will change your stance on what a Grand Seiko actually represents – http://www.thewatchsite.com/files/A%...0in%20Time.pdf

What does any of this have to do with the Rolex Pepsi GMT or the demand for it? Nothing. Annnnnnd that's why this thread is going nowhere fast.

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by Paul_I

Uhhhhhhhhhhh. No. I like GS a lot and respect the quality, but threads like this contribute to the ignorance GS lovers rant about. Calling any GS a "Rolex Pepsi GMT Killer" is flat out dumb.

Is it really that “dumb”?
Surely it’s just one person’s own (shared or otherwise) viewpoint.
You could also say that the OP’s post was mere hyperbole, or that the GS dial/indicies/blued GMT hand/Zaratsu polishing all contribute to offer something the Rolex doesn’t.
I’m not going to put words in his mouth – maybe a bit more text would’ve helped – but equally, I can look past the literal comment to see what meaning he’s trying to convey.

Originally Posted by Paul_I

What does any of this have to do with the Rolex Pepsi GMT or the demand for it? Nothing. Annnnnnd that's why this thread is going nowhere fast.

Everything or nothing – depends on whether you accept discussions stick solely to the topic or meander towards related side topics.
The thread was already veering off course once the brand cachet flag was waved.

[Paul_I]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Is it really that “dumb”?
Surely it’s just one person’s own (shared or otherwise) viewpoint.
You could also say that the OP’s post was mere hyperbole, or that the GS dial/indicies/blued GMT hand/Zaratsu polishing all contribute to offer something the Rolex doesn’t.
I’m not going to put words in his mouth – maybe a bit more text would’ve helped – but equally, I can look past the literal comment to see what meaning he’s trying to convey.




Everything or nothing – depends on whether you accept discussions stick solely to the topic or meander towards related side topics.
The thread was already veering off course once the brand cachet flag was waved.

Can't help but think OP threw the Pepsi GMT in the title as clickbait for yet another 'GS needs more respect' thread.