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Tan · 10 August 2018, 11:39 AM

Patek Philippe 5127R & Tudor GMT for a Patek 5035?

yessir69 · 10 August 2018, 12:07 PM

No.

traf · 10 August 2018, 12:26 PM

Hell no

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watchtabs · 10 August 2018, 12:31 PM

If salmon dial, then yes. I'd do it.

thomaspp · 10 August 2018, 12:41 PM

Would not trade a thing towards an AC lol

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goog53 · 10 August 2018, 12:51 PM

Absolutely Not

nyc2la · 10 August 2018, 01:24 PM

Nope

Flex368 · 10 August 2018, 05:02 PM

No.

Sonzy · 10 August 2018, 06:14 PM

No

Andad · 10 August 2018, 06:25 PM

What do the Patecs

look like?

Give me something?

HL65 · 10 August 2018, 06:29 PM

Nope

Tan · 10 August 2018, 08:24 PM

Overwhelming no's! Thanks for the input guys. I thought the AC was popular and the Calatrava less so, pretty surprised at the feedback but appreciate it nonetheless!

GB-man · 10 August 2018, 11:55 PM

Not a chance

kneedeep · 11 August 2018, 12:04 AM

Another no.

gummy · 11 August 2018, 12:12 AM

Not for me

Calatrava r · 11 August 2018, 12:23 AM

No

Descro · 11 August 2018, 12:47 AM

No

soundserious · 11 August 2018, 12:53 AM

Avoid any AC at all costs.

AK797 · 11 August 2018, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchtabs

If salmon dial, then yes. I'd do it.

Agree.

watchtabs · 11 August 2018, 01:40 AM

What’s so wrong about ACs?

knasman · 11 August 2018, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchtabs

What’s so wrong about ACs?

I'd like to know that, too. Seems it's popular to hate on AC for some reason, and I just don't get it. Personally, I love annual calendars. I've owned perpetuals, but to me, the AC is 99.99% of the way there, and more practical. Is it just haute horology snobbery?

Tan · 11 August 2018, 02:35 AM

Curious topic as well on reasons for not liking an AC. Also, remember the 5127 is a basic Calatrava with date. Many times I use the reference and people confuse it with the 5712 Nautilus.

jon_jon · 11 August 2018, 02:51 AM

IMHO, all the "no" answers are just "group think". When you ask why not AC, the answer will be it is not a Nautilus/Aquanaut and it doesn't hold its value.

Over the past 2 years, TRF Patek section has become a SS Nautilus/Aquanaut subsection and it is getting harder for "newer" members to get a more well-rounded understanding of the brand from reading the discussions here.

The AC is a nice complication that Patek patented 20+ years ago. Rolex has only had an AC watch for ~ 5 years. It is a practical watch if you wear it regularly as you don't have to set the date/month for 4 years.

AK797 · 11 August 2018, 06:14 AM

I think the boys are mainly joking as we've had a few threads on how unloved the ACs have been as the sports crave has gone viral, PP is still a complications brand more than anything.

GB-man · 11 August 2018, 06:45 AM

The hate for ACs is just that they almost all divebomb in resale. Caught somewhere in the middle ground.

Tan · 11 August 2018, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

The hate for ACs is just that they almost all divebomb in resale. Caught somewhere in the middle ground.

Is it any worse than the 5127R though? They aren't exactly hot on the market.

Ichiran · 11 August 2018, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tan

Is it any worse than the 5127R though? They aren't exactly hot on the market.

Both resale value of calatrava and AC are not good. If you like to "upgrade" to a watch with complications, go for it. I have sold my 5146R but I miss it.

uniqueMR · 11 August 2018, 03:53 PM

Nope

PJ S · 11 August 2018, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon_jon

IMHO, all the "no" answers are just "group think". When you ask why not AC, the answer will be it is not a Nautilus/Aquanaut and it doesn't hold its value.

Over the past 2 years, TRF Patek section has become a SS Nautilus/Aquanaut subsection and it is getting harder for "newer" members to get a more well-rounded understanding of the brand from reading the discussions here.

The AC is a nice complication that Patek patented 20+ years ago. Rolex has only had an AC watch for ~ 5 years. It is a practical watch if you wear it regularly as you don't have to set the date/month for 4 years.

Well said... apart from the last sentence. An AC needs manual intervention every year, in February. It’s the Leap Year that adds the complexity of a PC.
A PC doesn’t need manual input, except for 2100, which most of us won’t be around to worry about.

SL BRABUS · 12 August 2018, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tan

Patek Philippe 5127R & Tudor GMT for a Patek 5035?

No..... Not for the 5035.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchtabs

What’s so wrong about ACs?

Nothing wrong with the AC..... a lot of people say no on this particularly 5035 model, including myself because of the unbalanced looking of the roman numerals dial......

I guarantee if the OP were to change it to 5146 or 5396 there would be a lot more YES....

10 August 2018, 11:39 AM	#1
Tan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Canada Watch: PP 5320G Posts: 1,259	Would you do this trade? Patek Philippe 5127R & Tudor GMT for a Patek 5035?

10 August 2018, 12:31 PM	#4
watchtabs "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Charlie Location: Miami Posts: 1,534	If salmon dial, then yes. I'd do it. __________________ I have all the grails I could ever want, but the hunt will always continue .

10 August 2018, 12:41 PM	#5
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,137	Would not trade a thing towards an AC lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

10 August 2018, 12:51 PM	#6
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,075	Absolutely Not __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

10 August 2018, 01:24 PM	#7
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,414	Nope __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

10 August 2018, 12:07 PM	#2
yessir69 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 3,287	No.

10 August 2018, 12:26 PM	#3
traf "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: dave Location: miami Watch: me ride bikes Posts: 1,938	Hell no Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 August 2018, 05:02 PM	#8
Flex368 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Felix Location: GMT +1 Watch: Yes! Posts: 3,054	No.

10 August 2018, 06:14 PM	#9
Sonzy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Egypt Watch: PP/Breguet/IWC/Rlx Posts: 378	No __________________ Patek Philippe: 5712, 5146P Breguet: Marine GMT. IWC: Big Pilot “Le Petite Prince” Limited, Portugieser Chrono. Rolex: GMT Master II Batman.

10 August 2018, 06:25 PM	#10
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,488	What do the Patecs look like? Give me something? __________________ E

10 August 2018, 06:29 PM	#11
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,991	Nope __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

10 August 2018, 08:24 PM	#12
Tan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Canada Watch: PP 5320G Posts: 1,259	Overwhelming no's! Thanks for the input guys. I thought the AC was popular and the Calatrava less so, pretty surprised at the feedback but appreciate it nonetheless!

10 August 2018, 11:55 PM	#13
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,327	Not a chance __________________

11 August 2018, 12:04 AM	#14
kneedeep "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Not 2 far from u Posts: 3,457	Another no. __________________ Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018

11 August 2018, 12:12 AM	#15
gummy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: Midwest USA Watch: AP PP Rolex Posts: 3,348	Not for me

11 August 2018, 12:23 AM	#16
Calatrava r 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 11,357	No

11 August 2018, 12:47 AM	#17
Descro "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Italia Watch: The Last One 5168G Posts: 23	No

11 August 2018, 12:53 AM	#18
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	Avoid any AC at all costs. __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

11 August 2018, 01:40 AM	#20
watchtabs "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Charlie Location: Miami Posts: 1,534	What’s so wrong about ACs? __________________ I have all the grails I could ever want, but the hunt will always continue .

11 August 2018, 02:35 AM	#22
Tan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Canada Watch: PP 5320G Posts: 1,259	Curious topic as well on reasons for not liking an AC. Also, remember the 5127 is a basic Calatrava with date. Many times I use the reference and people confuse it with the 5712 Nautilus.

11 August 2018, 02:51 AM	#23
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,350	IMHO, all the "no" answers are just "group think". When you ask why not AC, the answer will be it is not a Nautilus/Aquanaut and it doesn't hold its value. Over the past 2 years, TRF Patek section has become a SS Nautilus/Aquanaut subsection and it is getting harder for "newer" members to get a more well-rounded understanding of the brand from reading the discussions here. The AC is a nice complication that Patek patented 20+ years ago. Rolex has only had an AC watch for ~ 5 years. It is a practical watch if you wear it regularly as you don't have to set the date/month for 4 years.

11 August 2018, 06:14 AM	#24
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	I think the boys are mainly joking as we've had a few threads on how unloved the ACs have been as the sports crave has gone viral, PP is still a complications brand more than anything.

11 August 2018, 06:45 AM	#25
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,327	The hate for ACs is just that they almost all divebomb in resale. Caught somewhere in the middle ground. __________________

11 August 2018, 03:53 PM	#28
uniqueMR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: USA Watch: P A T E K Posts: 4,706	Nope __________________ A. Lange & Sohne \| Audemars Piguet \| F.P.Journe \| Omega \| Patek Philippe \| Rolex \| Tudor \| ...and Othersss

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