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Old 19 March 2019, 02:53 AM   #1
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116719 BLRO white gold GMT discontinued

Just as the title suggests in the UK an AD has informed me that the Rolex 116719 BLRO white gold GMT had been discontinued. Probably a good thing as my wife I’m sure wouldn’t hit the roof if I asked her to join me on a purchase!
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Old 19 March 2019, 02:58 AM   #2
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That has been confirmed for months.
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Old 19 March 2019, 03:05 AM   #3
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I’m behind the curve :( I should have joined this forum sooner. Can only assume it’s still on the Rolex site so that the remaining inventory worldwide can be sold... wonder if there is any left anywhere
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Old 19 March 2019, 03:09 AM   #4
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The search feature works great no matter how long you have been here. Welcome to the community.
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Old 19 March 2019, 03:12 AM   #5
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It has been speculated for months but we'll find out for sure in a couple of days
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Old 19 March 2019, 03:13 AM   #6
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Just as the title suggests in the UK an AD has informed me that the Rolex 116719 BLRO white gold GMT had been discontinued. Probably a good thing as my wife I’m sure wouldn’t hit the roof if I asked her to join me on a purchase!
You may have another chance. Could be updated with the newer movement...We'll know this week if they make a 126719blro
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Old 19 March 2019, 03:14 AM   #7
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I’m behind the curve :( I should have joined this forum sooner. Can only assume it’s still on the Rolex site so that the remaining inventory worldwide can be sold... wonder if there is any left anywhere
Members have hunted unsuccessfully. There were very few blue dials released. When word of the disco got out, it became clear this was one of the shortest Rolex runs ever, which I suspect led to remaining stock getting snapped up. It's only on the website now because Rolex doesn't like to show changes in the lineup prior to Basel. It should be gone come Wednesday.
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Old 19 March 2019, 03:18 AM   #8
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You may have another chance. Could be updated with the newer movement...We'll know this week if they make a 126719blro
Possible, but doubtful. The black-dial WG BLRO was a slow-mover before the SS Pepsi came out. Sales fell off a cliff once the SS version came out. There isn't much incentive for Rolex to reintroduce it. Besides which, it was discontinued last fall. Discos in anticipation of an update or replacement usually happen in January or February.
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Old 19 March 2019, 03:41 AM   #9
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Did Rolex ever offer to swap the black dial for the blue? I thought I read a post awhile back mentioning of that service.
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Old 19 March 2019, 03:43 AM   #10
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Did Rolex ever offer to swap the black dial for the blue? I thought I read a post awhile back mentioning of that service.
Yes. People have had varying degrees of success actually doing it, though.
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Old 19 March 2019, 03:45 AM   #11
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Did Rolex ever offer to swap the black dial for the blue? I thought I read a post awhile back mentioning of that service.
Yes they did and one or two of our members did just that.
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Old 19 March 2019, 03:46 AM   #12
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Possible, but doubtful. The black-dial WG BLRO was a slow-mover before the SS Pepsi came out. Sales fell off a cliff once the SS version came out. There isn't much incentive for Rolex to reintroduce it. Besides which, it was discontinued last fall. Discos in anticipation of an update or replacement usually happen in January or February.
You're correct on all points. I'm eager to see how the GMT line will shake out.
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Old 19 March 2019, 04:27 AM   #13
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With a black dial and the Oyster bracelet (oh wait the ‘slightly’ higher price) there was not much to differentiate the WG from the SS. The later model with the blue dial gave it a subtle yet noticeable feature
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Old 19 March 2019, 04:45 AM   #14
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Pure speculation until the formal announcements this week. ADs know nothing more than anybody else. They have no idea what inventory they will receive. Rolex corporate dos not leak anything to an AD. The fact a watch cannot be ordered today does not mean it will not be available once more stock is received from the factory to the regional Rolex importer.
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Old 19 March 2019, 04:50 AM   #15
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I’m behind the curve :( I should have joined this forum sooner. Can only assume it’s still on the Rolex site so that the remaining inventory worldwide can be sold... wonder if there is any left anywhere
There are 53 available on Chrono24.
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Old 19 March 2019, 05:15 AM   #16
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Pure speculation until the formal announcements this week. ADs know nothing more than anybody else. They have no idea what inventory they will receive. Rolex corporate dos not leak anything to an AD. The fact a watch cannot be ordered today does not mean it will not be available once more stock is received from the factory to the regional Rolex importer.
The then-president of Rolex Canada (who is now the president of Rolex USA) confirmed to one of our members last November that it is no longer available. This isn't just an AD-based rumor.

Also, while you're right that ADs don't know what inventory they will receive, they DO know when they cannot order something, as well as when they are instructed by their reps to note an item has been discontinued. It's the only AD-based information that has any degree of reliability. When we get enough of those kinds of reports from enough different ADs, it's a pretty solid bet the model has been discontinued. We've seen this happen twice in the last two years with the SD4K and the black-dial WG BLRO.

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I attended a Rolex Boutique grand opening tonight. The President of Rolex Canada was present. Him and I had a nice chat. He noticed my WG BLRO, and commented that is an extremely rare piece and I should feel pretty good about owning it. I asked him, is the blue dial WG BLRO discontinued? He said, "it cannot be ordered anymore. It's still on the website to assist in selling for any dealers that still hold inventory". So, I'll take that as confirmation it's discontinued.
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Old 19 March 2019, 05:20 AM   #17
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There are 53 available on Chrono24.
Not with the blue dial. I counted five doing a cursory search, and they're all listing for over $50k. Knock yourself out.
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Old 19 March 2019, 05:23 AM   #18
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Seen a Blue dial today for sale in the UK at £38K!
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Old 19 March 2019, 06:53 AM   #19
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The then-president of Rolex Canada (who is now the president of Rolex USA) confirmed to one of our members last November that it is no longer available. This isn't just an AD-based rumor.

Also, while you're right that ADs don't know what inventory they will receive, they DO know when they cannot order something, as well as when they are instructed by their reps to note an item has been discontinued. It's the only AD-based information that has any degree of reliability. When we get enough of those kinds of reports from enough different ADs, it's a pretty solid bet the model has been discontinued. We've seen this happen twice in the last two years with the SD4K and the black-dial WG BLRO.

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A second UK based AD has also said it cannot be ordered anymore..anyway Roll on Baselworld!
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Old 19 March 2019, 06:55 AM   #20
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It will be back with new movement and/or Coke bez
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Old 19 March 2019, 07:02 AM   #21
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It will be back with new movement and/or Coke bez
And you're basing this on what? If it's back with a Coke bezel, thats really not the same watch is it?
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Old 19 March 2019, 07:03 AM   #22
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It will be back with new movement and/or Coke bez
Coke bezel would be awesome and that has been my hypothesis for months now!

I'll buy it in a heartbeat if they release a WG Coke bezel.
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Old 19 March 2019, 07:03 AM   #23
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And you're basing this on what? If it's back with a Coke bezel, thats really not the same watch is it?


I’m guessing like the rest of us of course. But makes sense to me. Why have like a 3 month run.


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Why have like a 3 month run.
Yes, because if there's a Coke replacement, then the run of the blue Pepsi will have been longer.

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Why not keep producing it? why kill it after 3 months? Its not like they didn't have the bezels(SS Pepsi), movements(BLNR and the other pm models as well as LN), bracelets(wg Daytona and sub) cases etc. People are trying to order a 40K watch in various countries and all are being told no. sounds like a poor business decision from a profit stand point No need to kill it if their intent is to reissue with new movement. They would just simply transition it to the new movement at Basel.
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Why not keep producing it? why kill it after 3 months? Its not like they didn't have the bezels(SS Pepsi), movements(BLNR and the other pm models as well as LN), bracelets(wg Daytona and sub) cases etc. People are trying to order a 40K watch in various countries and all are being told no. sounds like a poor business decision from a profit stand point No need to kill it if their intent is to reissue with new movement. They would just simply transition it to the new movement at Basel.


Yeah man - that’s what I said and think they’ll do. Guess I wasn’t clear. Burning through some wg cases was not the reason IMHO


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Yeah man - that’s what I said and think they’ll do. Guess I wasn’t clear. Burning through some wg cases was not the reason IMHO


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I'll be shocked if they reissue with the new movement. It sold like crap to begin with. It makes the most sense that they did the blue to differentiate the existing stock. AD's were asked to send back the blacks left over in inventory and have the dial swapped. Once those were all sold, they killed it and even though they could have still filled incoming orders as they had all the pieces to make and sell a highly profitable piece, they chose not to. Doubt we ever see a wg Pepsi again but I could be wrong.
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I'll be shocked if they reissue with the new movement. It sold like crap to begin with. It makes the most sense that they did the blue to differentiate the existing stock. AD's were asked to send back the blacks left over in inventory and have the dial swapped. Once those were all sold, they killed it and even though they could have still filled incoming orders as they had all the pieces to make and sell a highly profitable piece, they chose not to. Doubt we ever see a wg Pepsi again but I could be wrong.


Someone will be right Wednesday. I would have purchase that blue dial piece. Didn’t have the opportunity


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Why not keep producing it? why kill it after 3 months?
I don't know what quantity of WG cases, bezels, dials they have to make in order to be cost effective. Perhaps the demand of the new blue dial white gold pepsi at $36750 did not warrant another run of 500 or 1000 cases, dials, etc.

Rolex isn't stupid. They literally print money. I imagine it made good sense for them at the time.
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I don't know what quantity of WG cases, bezels, dials they have to make in order to be cost effective. Perhaps the demand of the new blue dial white gold pepsi at $36750 did not warrant another run of 500 or 1000 cases, dials, etc.

Rolex isn't stupid. They literally print money. I imagine it made good sense for them at the time.
I completely agree. Rolex knows exactly what they are doing. I think they released the blue dial because they had to differentiate it from then newly released SS. They took an already slow seller and found a way to clear inventory and give some current owners an option to swap until they blew through the blue dials. Once they blew through them, they stopped making it. and I agree that demand of the blue dial didn't probably didn't warrant a run of 500 or 1000 new whatever parts they needed which is why I don't believe they will reissue it. They could have easily filled 50-100 orders as they have every part available to them in the parts bin but they didn't.

The only point I am trying to make is they won't bring it back. If their intent was to keep it in the rotation with an updated movement they would not have told AD's worldwide to tell customers that its been discontinued and they can't order one because they clearly could have kept producing it this whole time. They already have all the parts being produced in other references.
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