Watches Updated with 3235 Movement - Why isn't this a bigger deal?

[smym18]

It seems that a lot of members don't care that a bunch of watches were updated with the 3235 movement, which gives the watch basically another full day of power and another 5 or so years until service time.

People who take their watch off for the weekend can pick it right back up on a Monday with one less thing to worry about to start the week. It will also benefit people with a multi-watch rotation.

I'm just curious - why is this update being viewed as no big deal?

(Yes, I am aware setting a watch doesn't take much effort.)

[tng11]

I'm a huge fan of the 3235. As someone with a couple of watches in rotation it's perfect. Love the BLRO more than my (now discontinued) BLNR and the 70 hour power reserve is a huge factor. Another reason why I love the Daytona too.

The entire YM lineup getting the new movement should be a bigger deal - no one seemed to care yesterday. I guess the YM just isn't that popular!

[lawrence1]

Not that big of a deal and the old movement is proven to be a workhorse. The longer power reserve is nice but not a must for most.

[MOOI]

It's huge. 70h is the new 40.

[WS9D]

i could care less about 70 hours PR. It's not a big deal to wind it up and set the time if it stops running cause it's off my wrist. That's half the fun for me. The 31XX is a proven work horse.

[pkincy]

But we give up something also. With the DJ 36 we give up the hidden crown clasp on the jubilee and the white stick dial all for a slightly newer movement. On balance not a real win.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by smym18

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I'm just curious - why is this update being viewed as no big deal?

(Yes, I am aware setting a watch doesn't take much effort.)

It is puzzling....

When the 3186 came out you would think that Rolex had re-invented the wheel all over again and everybody was scrambling to have theirs, even if they were breaking right and left.

Now that they have a completely new movement series everybody is raging because they didn't get a new dial color or whatever.

[enjoythemusic]

70 hours is nice, do have to admit the current movements are seriously impressive. They've proven their work-horsemen like manner, plus Rolex can easily take care of things in a fast and timely manner. I don't recall much of anyone really complaining about any of the latest movements.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by smym18

which gives the watch basically another...5 or so years until service time.

Is it only the 32xx that has a ten-year interval? Rolex updated the recommended service interval to ten years when the 31xx was still the more common movement.

[Maiden]

There is no change in service intervals with the new movement.

[Joed631]

I completely agree, the extra power reserve is essential if you’re rotating multiple watches without a winder.

[jb335]

I would never be mad at a longer power reserve, but I also rather enjoy the process of winding and setting the time. It has a calming effect on me.

One of the reasons I would never own a winder.

[gccmd]

Longer power reserve does nothing for me. It’s easy to reset the time and date on a Rolex if it stops. Now if we were talking about something like a PP grand complication it would be a completely different story.

[danny1305]

Originally Posted by lawrence1

Not that big of a deal and the old movement is proven to be a workhorse. The longer power reserve is nice but not a must for most.

This. While nice...it certainly isnt warranted of an upgrade for people that have the previous version of the watch. Many also use winders and will not see the benefit of the extended reserve

[eteokles]

I remember a recent poll that showed most members had only one Rolex. If you only have one watch, and you wear it on the weekends as well as during the week, the power reserve becomes much less of a factor.

[sillo]

Originally Posted by lawrence1

Not that big of a deal and the old movement is proven to be a workhorse. The longer power reserve is nice but not a must for most.

This about sums it up perfectly. I really couldn't care less about power reserve as long as it's running when I wake up and put on my watch in the morning.

[RTG]

Originally Posted by smym18

It seems that a lot of members don't care that a bunch of watches were updated with the 3235 movement, which gives the watch basically another full day of power and another 5 or so years until service time.

People who take their watch off for the weekend can pick it right back up on a Monday with one less thing to worry about to start the week. It will also benefit people with a multi-watch rotation.

I'm just curious - why is this update being viewed as no big deal?

(Yes, I am aware setting a watch doesn't take much effort.)

I have wondered the same thing. I think Rolex did a lot this year and cleaned up or finished out many lines including Yacht-Master, GMT, Day-Date, DJ41/36. In forums or social media everyone is pissed that there is no new Sub and god forbid gold on a luxury watch. Crazy to expect a new SS Sub, SS Daytona or SS GMT every single year.

[~JJ]

I think the extra power reserve is awesome. The self proclaimed WIS crowd of late only seems to care about value retention/gains and hottest SS pieces from two brands.

[Brny11]

I recall a thread from a professional watchmaker on the forum compare the two movements 3135 and 3235 and ultimately he preferred the 3135. I am not knowledgeable enough to have an opinion, but the 3135 is an absolute workhorse, proven and time tested. It has its place in history and I am perfectly happy with it. I would love 70 hour power but in the end of the day, if the next sub has enough aesthetic changes I enjoy, I’d love to get it, but if the watch has similar proportions, I am perfectly happy with the 3135.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Is it only the 32xx that has a ten-year interval? Rolex updated the recommended service interval to ten years when the 31xx was still the more common movement.

No, it's not limited to the 32xx, but rather any watches coming with Green hang tags. I believe the switch was July/August 2015. At that point any watches still in cases, ADs were instructed to switch from the Red to the new Green hang tags and issue accompanied warrantees, service recommendations and guarantees.

I have two green tags in the collection, Feb 16 Sub and a Feb 16 Daytona. Both have the +2 -2 as well as the 5 year warranty as well.

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by Tools

It is puzzling....

When the 3186 came out you would think that Rolex had re-invented the wheel all over again and everybody was scrambling to have theirs, even if they were breaking right and left.

Now that they have a completely new movement series everybody is raging because they didn't get a new dial color or whatever.

Sadly, people are only interested in what Rolex they can buy to flip, show off, beat the system with etc etc. Movements are just unimportant to most. Sad state of affairs to those that love the heritage, the brand and strive to own one.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by RTG

I have wondered the same thing. I think Rolex did a lot this year and cleaned up or finished out many lines including Yacht-Master, GMT, Day-Date, DJ41/36. In forums or social media everyone is pissed that there is no new Sub and god forbid gold on a luxury watch. We can't have a new Sub, Daytona or GMT every single year.

It's great Rolex completed the movement conversion in the GMT line, but I don't like how they went about it: they eliminated most of the watches that still had the 3186, while introducing a lot of redundancy to make up for it. The Y-M transition made more sense: just update the existing watches all at once, while introducing a new model to grab attention. How hard is that? (Granted, I still think the Y-M line has aesthetic multiple personality disorder, but that was true before the movement transition.)

[Quailhunter]

The DayDate I bought over 30 years ago keeps near perfect time. The YachtMaster I bought 8 month ago keeps near perfect time. I would not choose a Rolex based on movement. Any Rolex will keep near perfect time.

[FoolioABC]

Hi, the new calibers definitely have improved specs, but whether they are strictly an improvement seems to be up for debate for watchmakers specifically. Check out this article that I had previously seen here, it addresses this: http://bhi.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/...-the-Month.pdf


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[904VT]

The 3135 is bullet proof and extremely accurate. To me the move from 3135 to 3235 is not as significant as the 4030 to 4130. I too find it puzzling why so many want the early 3186s that are known to have some issues over the 3185s.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by 904VT

No, it's not limited to the 32xx, but rather any watches coming with Green hang tags. I believe the switch was July/August 2015. At that point any watches still in cases, ADs were instructed to switch from the Red to the new Green hang tags and issue accompanied warrantees, service recommendations and guarantees.

I have two green tags in the collection, Feb 16 Sub and a Feb 16 Daytona. Both have the +2 -2 as well as the 5 year warranty as well.

Thanks. I knew the warranty and accuracy specs changed in 2015 with the green tags. I wasn't aware that also included a change in the recommended service interval. Even so, I was pretty sure the ten-year interval didn't apply only to the 32xx movements.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Thanks. I knew the warranty and accuracy specs changed in 2015 with the green tags. I wasn't aware that also included a change in the recommended service interval. Even so, I was pretty sure the ten-year interval didn't apply only to the 32xx movements.

You were correct. Big update too imo compared to competitors

[sillo]

Originally Posted by 904VT

The 3135 is bullet proof and extremely accurate. To me the move from 3135 to 3235 is not as significant as the 4030 to 4130. I too find it puzzling why so many want the early 3186s that are known to have some issues over the 3185s.

I think it's mostly because how few of them made it into the 16710 so it's seen as a collectible variation. I mean I'm kind of guilty too, I made sure I got a 16570 with the 3186.

[Dr Watches]

Originally Posted by Tools

It is puzzling....

When the 3186 came out you would think that Rolex had re-invented the wheel all over again and everybody was scrambling to have theirs, even if they were breaking right and left.

Now that they have a completely new movement series everybody is raging because they didn't get a new dial color or whatever.

The population of collectors is different now. And not in a way where things like movements are understood or valued.

[Brny11]

To add on to my post...

Watchmaker's Surprising Perspective on the new 3235 vs. the 3135
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sha...0&share_type=t