Any of you really smart people want to calibrate my Seiko?

[TheVTCGuy]

My new Seiko is awsome! But running slow, maybe I’m spoiled with my Rolex Datejust but my save the Ocean lost about five minutes in a week on the winder. That bugs me. It is (almost) brand new but I have heard nothing but horror stories about sending it to Seiko, like not seeing it for six months. There are a couple services I have seen on line that charge $75 or $100 (which I am willing to pay) but I thought one of you smart, talented, TRFers might do it(?). Of course I will pay you and will ship it with a return box to make it easy.

Anyone?

[Andad]

No problem Paul,

Send it to me and I'll pay for my local watchmaker to fix it.

[sensui]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

My new Seiko is awsome! But running slow, maybe I’m spoiled with my Rolex Datejust but my save the Ocean lost about five minutes in a week on the winder. That bugs me. It is (almost) brand new but I have heard nothing but horror stories about sending it to Seiko, like not seeing it for six months. There are a couple services I have seen on line that charge $75 or $100 (which I am willing to pay) but I thought one of you smart, talented, TRFers might do it(?). Of course I will pay you and will ship it with a return box to make it easy.



Anyone?

Ring up Tom at D's Time Service Paul. He'll take care of you.

[toxicavenger]

NJ Seiko has quick turnarounds on work.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by directioneng

No problem Paul,

Send it to me and I'll pay for my local watchmaker to fix it.

I got a better idea, I’ll bring it to you personally. .


Actually, just remembered I AM coming to Australia in a couple months...

[Andad]

Where in Oz - it’s a big place?

[rootbeer7]

Maybe the Seiko is telling the real time. The rest of us are wrong!

[rudestew]

Seiko time is fun times in my book

[1William]

I own the Save the Ocean model that you have along with about eight others and a Grand Seiko. What I have found is that they really do not respond to my watch winders the same way some of my other watches do. What I have also found with the regular Seiko watches is that when I set and wind them and wear them my timing improved drastically. I wore my remake of the 62MAS the other day and instead of loosing 20-25 seconds a day I lost five over 24 hours. I would not send it in just yet, I would give it 24-72 hours of straight wrist time after setting and winding and see where you are then. Just my thoughts and experience. Good luck.

[chsu74]

New Seiko motto: “Gotta give me wrist time to get you accurate time.”

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by 1William

I own the Save the Ocean model that you have along with about eight others and a Grand Seiko. What I have found is that they really do not respond to my watch winders the same way some of my other watches do. What I have also found with the regular Seiko watches is that when I set and wind them and wear them my timing improved drastically. I wore my remake of the 62MAS the other day and instead of loosing 20-25 seconds a day I lost five over 24 hours. I would not send it in just yet, I would give it 24-72 hours of straight wrist time after setting and winding and see where you are then. Just my thoughts and experience. Good luck.

Originally Posted by chsu74

New Seiko motto: “Gotta give me wrist time to get you accurate time.”

You know I was going to bring that point up actually, it does seem to be on the winder that it gets the worse timekeeping.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Where in Oz - it’s a big place?

I’ll have to find out, I think Melbourne.

[nan7yo]

I have few Seiko, always think the ones “Made in Japan” are more accurate.




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[Soarer]

I have noticed the lower end movements like 4R36 and 7S26 don't do well on winders. They do much much better on the wrists.


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[antbkny]

I’d be happy to regulate it for you. Most turtles I’ve see run 25 to 35 sec per day slow from the factory. Send me a PM!

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by nan7yo

I have few Seiko, always think the ones “Made in Japan” are more accurate.
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I wish that was true. But I have not found that is the case after buying Seiko's for the last 18 years.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by toxicavenger

NJ Seiko has quick turnarounds on work.

Agree. A few weeks or so


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[Art 1]

Originally Posted by antbkny

I’d be happy to regulate it for you. Most turtles I’ve see run 25 to 35 sec per day slow from the factory. Send me a PM!

That's what mine was running, minus 35. I took it back for a return and had them put the next one on the machine, showed minus 2. And that's what it has been.

[icnbne]

Can confirm winder seems to worsen the accuracy
My marinemaster does -5 seconds a day when daily worn, but currently on thr winder for a week its doing 9-11

[Andad]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

I’ll have to find out, I think Melbourne.

Pity you are not going to Perth.

Son races quad copters.

Never mind, Stav wil look after you.

[JTL31]

Ok...I’m going to ask a very naive question so please don’t flame me.
How are you able to measure your watch’s accuracy so close to seconds +/- whatever?! Atomic clock vs. some measuring device??

[daveo5]

I have found among Seiko’s, the diver models generally keep it the worst time. Other models with different movements always seem to perform better.


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[antbkny]

Originally Posted by JTL31

Ok...I’m going to ask a very naive question so please don’t flame me.
How are you able to measure your watch’s accuracy so close to seconds +/- whatever?! Atomic clock vs. some measuring device??

I use a timegrapher

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by JTL31

Ok...I’m going to ask a very naive question so please don’t flame me.
How are you able to measure your watch’s accuracy so close to seconds +/- whatever?! Atomic clock vs. some measuring device??

I personally do not. I do not care if they run perfectly. The way I know a watch runs bad is when I have to adjust the time at the end of the week. I think timing a watch daily is not the way to do it. And if I was really worded abotu perfect time then I would put on a quartz.

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by daveo5

I have found among Seiko’s, the diver models generally keep it the worst time. Other models with different movements always seem to perform better.


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I do not think this is the case. Since the movements used in their divers are shared thru their other lines of watches also.

[miket-nyc]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

My new Seiko is awsome! But running slow, maybe I’m spoiled with my Rolex Datejust but my save the Ocean lost about five minutes in a week on the winder. That bugs me. It is (almost) brand new but I have heard nothing but horror stories about sending it to Seiko, like not seeing it for six months. There are a couple services I have seen on line that charge $75 or $100 (which I am willing to pay) but I thought one of you smart, talented, TRFers might do it(?). Of course I will pay you and will ship it with a return box to make it easy.

Anyone?

Why not become smart and talented yourself and learn how to regulate it at home? Then you'll never have to ask for help again. It's not really hard on a movement like the Seiko, where you move a lever to increase or decrease the speed. (A Rolex, where you have to turn tiny nuts on the inside of the rotating balance, is far more difficult and most owners wouldn't attempt it).

All you need are an eye loupe to see things that small, and something to open the back of the case with. These things are available at Harbor Freight or other online stores. It's also a good idea to get some silicone grease if the 0-ring is dry and needs more lubricant. DO NOT confuse silicone grease with RTV silicone caulk. Silicone grease is a grease, and it looks pretty much like Vaseline, but it has a silicone base rather than a petroleum base. (You should never use petroleum products like Vaseline on 0-rings because they damage the rubber).

I took a photo of the back of my Seiko 5, showing the balance and how to adjust it. I was going to post this, but this forum gives me an error message when I try. (I'd be happy to send the photo to anyone who's interested). Above the balance on this kind of movement there's a little scale with "+" sign on one side and a "-" sign on the other, plus a moving pointer in the middle. On the opposite side from the scale is a small lever. If you move the lever down a little bit, the pointer moves towards the "-" and the watch will go a little slower. Move it down and the pointer goes toward the "+" and the watch will go faster.

This process can be frustrating, because if you move the lever enough to actually SEE it move, you probably moved it too much. I've had the best luck tapping the lever with a jeweler's screwdriver and just hoping it moved a bit. If you overshoot, that means you moved it too much and you need to tap more lightly, but if you go back and forth a few times, eventually you figure it out.

After each adjustment, put the back on the watch, synchronize it to an electric clock or a quartz watch, and wait a while. You can easily tell from the two second hands if the watch is losing or gaining time. (At first, it may be so wrong you can tell in a couple of minutes. As you get closer, you may have to wait hours to notice a difference. When you get close, you should be wearing the watch because your movements can affect how fast it's going).

This method is primitive and requires no expensive tools, but with some patience over a couple of days I was able to get my Seiko 5 (bought used on eBay for $10), within a few seconds a day. You can do the same.