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AgentHsu · 15 July 2016, 08:08 AM

I have a 16808 gold sub, and I do love it.

Something that I grapple with a little bit is that some of the examples I see online have better/cleaner dial contrast, due to better aging. My dial seems to have faded in color and writing, and I do wish it were brighter and more visible. Ideally, I'd like my vintage nipple dial to look brighter and newer, and thought it would be fun to find original parts to give it a facelift. The band and case are in excellent shape. Too bad they don't make nipple dials anymore!

Anyways, I stumbled on a seller with a pristine nipple dial in stock, so I emailed inquiring about it. Upon closer inspection, he mentioned that he did feel like it was TOO PRISTINE, and felt that it might have been refinished. He told me he was going to take down his post because of the chance it would not be 100% original, and so he did. His site proudly claims everything being 100% original, so I respect his honesty.

He ran it by two of his associates, one thinking it could be NOS, and another who believes it was refinished since the tritium unlikely is so perfectly preserved.

My original plan was to buy this dial and sell my original older one (maybe keep it now), but wanted the vintage expert's thoughts. The printing looks superb, and the "experts" did have a hard time deciding if it were genuine/original. The seller has been responsive, has thousands of reviews/references l, all positive, and has shown ethical business behavior.

I as about to purchase, since we reached a fair deal after some haggling. Then I noticed that the zeros and the T swiss T didn't match my current, as well as other examples online. Here's where I need the input of the experts.

Is it possible this is NOS, and Rolex might have made a version that we don't see often?

Should I pull the trigger, as the differences are pretty miniscule?

If it's refurbished/inconclusive, Will it affect resale value if I swapped, and sold my old dial? The craftsmanship on this dial looks fantastic, and is difficult to distinguish from a Rolex printed dial.

And if it's a refurbished dial, should I pay a premium, or should I receive a discount, considering the quality of the work?

15 July 2016, 08:08 AM	#1
AgentHsu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mr. Hsu Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Datejust Posts: 607	Vintage experts help! I have a 16808 gold sub, and I do love it. Something that I grapple with a little bit is that some of the examples I see online have better/cleaner dial contrast, due to better aging. My dial seems to have faded in color and writing, and I do wish it were brighter and more visible. Ideally, I'd like my vintage nipple dial to look brighter and newer, and thought it would be fun to find original parts to give it a facelift. The band and case are in excellent shape. Too bad they don't make nipple dials anymore! Anyways, I stumbled on a seller with a pristine nipple dial in stock, so I emailed inquiring about it. Upon closer inspection, he mentioned that he did feel like it was TOO PRISTINE, and felt that it might have been refinished. He told me he was going to take down his post because of the chance it would not be 100% original, and so he did. His site proudly claims everything being 100% original, so I respect his honesty. He ran it by two of his associates, one thinking it could be NOS, and another who believes it was refinished since the tritium unlikely is so perfectly preserved. My original plan was to buy this dial and sell my original older one (maybe keep it now), but wanted the vintage expert's thoughts. The printing looks superb, and the "experts" did have a hard time deciding if it were genuine/original. The seller has been responsive, has thousands of reviews/references l, all positive, and has shown ethical business behavior. I as about to purchase, since we reached a fair deal after some haggling. Then I noticed that the zeros and the T swiss T didn't match my current, as well as other examples online. Here's where I need the input of the experts. Is it possible this is NOS, and Rolex might have made a version that we don't see often? Should I pull the trigger, as the differences are pretty miniscule? If it's refurbished/inconclusive, Will it affect resale value if I swapped, and sold my old dial? The craftsmanship on this dial looks fantastic, and is difficult to distinguish from a Rolex printed dial. And if it's a refurbished dial, should I pay a premium, or should I receive a discount, considering the quality of the work?

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