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[Pongster]

So when we advise members to buy from a TRF Trusted Seller, what it really means is do your due diligence? There really is no definitive source of which sellers are actual TRF Trusted Sellers?

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by Pongster

So when we advise members to buy from a TRF Trusted Seller, what it really means is do your due diligence? There really is no definitive source of which sellers are actual TRF Trusted Sellers?

Correct. There is no accredited certification of trustworthiness.

[cop414]

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=730863

[Pongster]

Originally Posted by cop414

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=730863

^ This I understand.

What i dont understand is the ubiquitous advice to buy from a TRF Trusted Seller.


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[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by Pongster

So when we advise members to buy from a TRF Trusted Seller, what it really means is do your due diligence? There really is no definitive source of which sellers are actual TRF Trusted Sellers?

Correct. TRF is a forum. It’s not offering any guarantees or certifications. It’s a forum for discussion, and those discussions naturally trend to ‘hey who’s a great seller.’ Multiply that by years and 10000s of posts, patterns emerge. Look around the forum; google names; who’s who section, see how many posts someone has had. Etc etc etc. This seems pretty obvious...

[Pongster]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

Correct. TRF is a forum. It’s not offering any guarantees or certifications. It’s a forum for discussion, and those discussions naturally trend to ‘hey who’s a great seller.’ Multiply that by years and 10000s of posts, patterns emerge. Look around the forum; google names; who’s who section, see how many posts someone has had. Etc etc etc. This seems pretty obvious...

I guess not obvious enough as several still get scammed.

Plus one cant just rely on the credentials of a seller as there have been a number of instances of accounts (with good references and track record) getting hacked.

Anyway, personally, i dont trust any seller from the get go. I do my due diligence before i decide to take the risk. I know there’s no 100% sure thing anyway. Just a matter of significantly mitigating one’s risk.

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by Pongster

I guess not obvious enough as several still get scammed.

Plus one cant just rely on the credentials of a seller as there have been a number of instances of accounts (with good references and track record) getting hacked.

Anyway, personally, i dont trust any seller from the get go. I do my due diligence before i decide to take the risk. I know there’s no 100% sure thing anyway. Just a matter of significantly mitigating one’s risk.

Agreed on all points. People get scammed because they’re not careful and looking for a ‘good deal.’ For all but a lucky few, this is a retail hobby. Save money on groceries or housing or other non-essentials, and when buying watches buy the pieces you love from the most renowned sellers!

[cvo]

Sorry to hear this sad story. ADs and sellers like DavidSW are the ways to go. Pay more for added security and peace of mind.

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

Agreed on all points. People get scammed because they’re not careful and looking for a ‘good deal.’ For all but a lucky few, this is a retail hobby. Save money on groceries or housing or other non-essentials, and when buying watches buy the pieces you love from the most renowned sellers!

This is unfortunately the sad truth. So many of these threads start by saying they saw the red flags, chose to ignore them, and still proceeded with the purchase, with the inevitable outcome. 'Trust' has to be gleaned and established from several directions.