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Old 21 September 2006, 12:00 AM   #1
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Swiss Diving Watch In Guinness Book of Records.

Now Craig this one really is a no no,sorry this is quite a big
watch by any standards.

http://www.europastar.com/europastar..._id=1003123446

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Old 21 September 2006, 03:00 AM   #2
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Is that a watch or a clock?
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Old 21 September 2006, 03:14 AM   #3
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Now Craig this one really is a no no,sorry this is quite a big
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http://www.europastar.com/europastar..._id=1003123446


Peter, whatever happened to those liquid filled watches that could down at least this depth? I believe they could go down even deeper. Do you know what watches I'm getting at, were a fad about 10 years ago.
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Old 21 September 2006, 03:19 AM   #4
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I know the Bell & Ross hydromax claims 11000m oil filled quartz.
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Old 21 September 2006, 03:21 AM   #5
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I know the Bell & Ross hydromax claims 11000m oil filled quartz.
Does the watch come with a coffin, so that when your body hits that depth trying to see if it can 'take it' that at least that expense is covered in the purchase price?
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Peter, whatever happened to those liquid filled watches that could down at least this depth? I believe they could go down even deeper. Do you know what watches I'm getting at, were a fad about 10 years ago.
Yes there were quite a few around some sort of silicon oil filled, I believe most were Quartz though.Again one of those things bigger is better,but in reality of little more use, that what we now have in say the SD.And for the average experienced mixed gas or air diver,I can assure diving down to 60m is deep enough.
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Old 21 September 2006, 04:01 AM   #7
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Does the watch come with a coffin, so that when your body hits that depth trying to see if it can 'take it' that at least that expense is covered in the purchase price?

"His body was crushed beyond recognition but sure enough, his Hydromax was still tickin'!".
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Why anyone would make a watch that goes so bloody deep is beyond me. At that depth, the water pressure is so enormous that....
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Old 21 September 2006, 04:05 AM   #9
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I know the Bell & Ross hydromax claims 11000m oil filled quartz.

Yes, so what World Record do they mean in the article?
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That reminds me of that murder (done by a Canadian) of a UK biz exec. When the authorities located the body (in the drink) it was decomposed beyond recognition, but the body had a Rolex on the wrist, they traced the serial number through Rolex UK and were able to ID the body.
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That reminds me of that murder (done by a Canadian) of a UK biz exec. When the authorities located the body (in the drink) it was decomposed beyond recognition, but the body had a Rolex on the wrist, they traced the serial number through Rolex UK and were able to ID the body.
Yes, I remember that one, Johnny. In fact, they had shown a full reconstruction on Discovery!!
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That reminds me of that murder (done by a Canadian) of a UK biz exec. When the authorities located the body (in the drink) it was decomposed beyond recognition, but the body had a Rolex on the wrist, they traced the serial number through Rolex UK and were able to ID the body.

I saw that one too It was an Airking, I think
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At that depth, the water pressure is so enormous that....

..... it will even crush your bloated ego!


P.S. Did you find your missing posts yet?
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..... it will even crush your bloated ego!


P.S. Did you find your missing posts yet?
Missing posts? With over 35 posts a day, who the hell can even remember what's there and what's gone?
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Holy cow it looks like that watch can handle going to the earth's core. Uh, just exactly what time zone IS the earth's core in anyway?

I see Rolex had a watch in 1953 that went to 10,335 ft here.http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0018.shtml

I like it....
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Old 21 September 2006, 05:49 PM   #19
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Holy cow it looks like that watch can handle going to the earth's core. Uh, just exactly what time zone IS the earth's core in anyway?

I see Rolex had a watch in 1953 that went to 10,335 ft here.http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0018.shtml

I like it....
A friggin' crash helmet has better aesthetics than that!!
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A friggin' crash helmet has better aesthetics than that!!

But the crystal looks remarkably thin for a watch with this depth rating
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Remarkably thin? That watch is like 90% crystal!!
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Remarkably thin? That watch is like 90% crystal!!
JJ, it's the new TT Submariner, just released. I heard from Geneva that one is on it's way to Mansor's, blue dial of course.
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I've just read an article on WUS dive forum, the gist of which suggests that quartz dive watches, even those that are oil filled, will fail at 5000m. I know that for all intents and purposes this depth will never be reached, but the claims made by some manufacturers are perhaps a little misleading? The claims about theoretical proofing at great depth are meaningless if the watch fails to function

'Sinn and also a Swiss Watch laboratory have made tests in ultra deep environments and at 5100 meters the quartz tube shatters from the pressure submitted and the quartz watch will fail even if the watch is waterproof to 12000 meters, the pressure submitted transfers to the oil in the watch. Only a mechanical watch will hold and work at pressures over 5000 meters, if it is waterproofed enough. You can read more on this on the Sinn web site. No watch to date works perfectly at 12000 meters, unless in a protected atmosphere.'

I've just checked the Sinn website, and can't find any more info on quartz tubes failing. I did however, find this paragraph in the technology section:

'So that a watch is really suitable for each attainable submerged depth, so that it is readable under water in each angle and remains always, we developed watches with hydraulic technology. The problems arising in large submerged depth were solved by a highly transparent oil filling of the complete housing. Since oil is not compressible in contrast to air, the housing can resist the largest outside water pressure'

Perhaps thats why the Sinn Hydro is rated to 5000metres. Thats an awful lot of pressure at 5000metres,equivalent to 500bar or so,which is around 7250Psi.

Now myself have seen quite a few diving accidents at just over
10 meters.Or 2 atmospheres,one atmo air pressure one atmo water pressure,where the mainly novice diver has forgot to equalise the pressure in his face mask.We call these a squeeze,and its caused by not exhaling air though your nose into the airspace inside mask,while submersing.Now these injuries are normally very red blood shot eyes,where the tiny blood vessels have burst under pressure.And a quite distinct mark around the face, where the mask has squeezed on to the face with the water pressure.Sometimes eye and ear injuries are much worse and all this at just over 10 meters underwater.
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interesting read! although it is pointelss making watches with these depth ratings anyway..
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interesting read! although it is pointelss making watches with these depth ratings anyway..
It's a 'me too' race. (It was a race actually). Yes, pointless but it falls in the same category as cars that can do 200+ mph. Pointless but cool.

Now I know the oil filled watches have an air bubble to compensate for temperature changes, I would have thought that would have saved the quartz tubes as well.
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You know, if you go deep enough the lack of a gravitational force is what will stop the watch from ticking!
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Interesting way of pricing it.
As much as I can appreciate the technological questing & engineering prowess of the creators, I would rather spend 3657 Euros on something else.
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