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powerfunk · 21 June 2022, 02:57 AM

Maybe I'm out of the loop on this, but I just noticed my 16610 (and some others from 2002-2006ish, plus some service dials) has a an "S" in "Submariner" that is kinda flat and backwards Z-like. Not as much as a "Zorro dial" from the late 1980's but somewhat.

Here's a comparison of typical, Zorro, and what I'm calling "semi-Zorro":

My bad if this is already an established dial variant, just a meaningless little variation I hadn't noticed before.

cm70 · 21 June 2022, 05:05 AM

There are two Z/lumi dials of the 16610 ref … plus, there are some Z in the tritium era and also one for the Swiss dial

swish77 · 21 June 2022, 07:58 AM

Yes, those "Z" dials are super cool, and not that common. The first was on the 168000 (below a 9.3 million), but only on the very first batch of the dials, aka MK1.

dhknola · 22 June 2022, 01:41 AM

Ah, Zorro dial is the name. I was calling these 'flat s'...I have one like that on a circa 2000 16610

cm70 · 22 June 2022, 04:33 AM

Have you got a picture ? Maybe it is a “Swiss” dial …

linesiders · 22 June 2022, 06:46 AM

You mean like a ZNOWFLAKE

zapokee · 22 June 2022, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by linesiders

You mean like a ZNOWFLAKE

Yes, And Zubmariner.

Although "Z" has now been canceled due to things. Had to delete my avatar featuring the first letter of my forum name.

springer · 22 June 2022, 11:15 AM

I've heard the Zs sell for double what the S sells for. Believe it or not!!!

linesiders · 22 June 2022, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by zapokee

Yes, And Zubmariner.

Although "Z" has now been canceled due to things. Had to delete my avatar featuring the first letter of my forum name.

That is kinda dumb. It's not like you invaded a neighboring country against their will.

swish77 · 23 June 2022, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by springer

I've heard the Zs sell for double what the S sells for. Believe it or not!!!

Ha! I don't believe it! That would be about as crazy as needing to pay more for a watch simply because of the order of the depth rating on the dial.

Filipão · 23 June 2022, 07:37 AM

Or depth rating above Zubmariner!

swish77 · 23 June 2022, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Filipão

Or depth rating above Zubmariner!

Nice! Great shot!

powerfunk · 23 June 2022, 08:55 AM

Thanks for the input, everyone. Here's a shot of my 16610 from ~2004. The S is pretty flat but it's definitely not as flat as a full-blown Zorro dial:

zapokee · 23 June 2022, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by powerfunk

Thanks for the input, everyone. Here's a shot of my 16610 from ~2004. The S is pretty flat but it's definitely not as flat as a full-blown Zorro dial:

I'm loving 1. the term "Zorro dial," which I'd never heard before, and 2. the curve on your pinky toes.

cm70 · 24 June 2022, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by powerfunk

Thanks for the input, everyone. Here's a shot of my 16610 from ~2004. The S is pretty flat but it's definitely not as flat as a full-blown Zorro dial:

Zorro spotted 😁
16610T, mark7 Z/lumi aka Zedddy …
Great Sub 😁

21 June 2022, 02:57 AM	#1
powerfunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston, MA Watch: 1530 Posts: 3,803	"Semi-Zorro" 16610 dials from 2002-2006 Maybe I'm out of the loop on this, but I just noticed my 16610 (and some others from 2002-2006ish, plus some service dials) has a an "S" in "Submariner" that is kinda flat and backwards Z-like. Not as much as a "Zorro dial" from the late 1980's but somewhat. Here's a comparison of typical, Zorro, and what I'm calling "semi-Zorro": My bad if this is already an established dial variant, just a meaningless little variation I hadn't noticed before.

21 June 2022, 07:58 AM	#3
swish77 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 7,089	Yes, those "Z" dials are super cool, and not that common. The first was on the 168000 (below a 9.3 million), but only on the very first batch of the dials, aka MK1. Attached Images

22 June 2022, 06:46 AM	#6
linesiders 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,522	You mean like a ZNOWFLAKE __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

22 June 2022, 11:15 AM	#8
springer 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,473	I've heard the Zs sell for double what the S sells for. Believe it or not!!! __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

23 June 2022, 07:37 AM	#11
Filipão "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Filipe Location: Lisbon & Wadesdah Watch: Never too many Posts: 1,898	Or depth rating above Zubmariner! Attached Images

21 June 2022, 05:05 AM	#2
cm70 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: cagliari Posts: 132	There are two Z/lumi dials of the 16610 ref … plus, there are some Z in the tritium era and also one for the Swiss dial

22 June 2022, 01:41 AM	#4
dhknola "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,176	Ah, Zorro dial is the name. I was calling these 'flat s'...I have one like that on a circa 2000 16610

22 June 2022, 04:33 AM	#5
cm70 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: cagliari Posts: 132	Have you got a picture ? Maybe it is a “Swiss” dial …

23 June 2022, 08:55 AM	#13
powerfunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston, MA Watch: 1530 Posts: 3,803	Thanks for the input, everyone. Here's a shot of my 16610 from ~2004. The S is pretty flat but it's definitely not as flat as a full-blown Zorro dial:

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