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Old 31 January 2024, 05:30 PM   #1
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Change I'd Like in my Sub

I have a Submariner 18600, which Rolex repaired in April, 2022. Since then it's performed wonderfully; it's the most accurate mechanical watch I've ever seen and it should stay that way for many, many years.

But there's one thing I don't like about it. I often use my watch during swimming or rowing, either to take my pulse swimming laps or to time the number of seconds it's taken to row a certain number of meters.

For things like that, I find the face of the Submariner too cluttered to instantly pick out the second hand, so I wish that hand were more visible.

Most Rolex watches look similar in this area, with one exception: the bright green second hand of the Air King. The watches have similar movements so I expect an Air King second hand could be put on a Submariner. If it can, would Rolex be willing to sell me one and install it? I'd still want to keep the Submariner second hand in case a future owner wanted to put it back, but I don't think I ever would.

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Old 31 January 2024, 05:46 PM   #2
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Rolex would not sell you a second hand from an Air-King for your Submariner. They wouldn't even sell you the second hand of your own watch.

Do you also find the 14060 2 liner to look busy?
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Old 31 January 2024, 08:05 PM   #3
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Rolex could learn a thing or two from Timex.
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Old 31 January 2024, 08:34 PM   #4
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You could try to source a colored second hand in the aftermarket.

I’m confused as to which Submariner reference you own…
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Old 31 January 2024, 08:34 PM   #5
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Rolex would not sell you a second hand from an Air-King for your Submariner. They wouldn't even sell you the second hand of your own watch.

Do you also find the 14060 2 liner to look busy?
About as good as it gets
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Old 31 January 2024, 08:39 PM   #6
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You could source one in the secondary market but Rolex will not sell you one.
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Old 31 January 2024, 08:45 PM   #7
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All I can say is that when swimming / timing laps etc I always wear a digital Timex or Casio.
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Old 31 January 2024, 08:57 PM   #8
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You could try to source a colored second hand in the aftermarket.

I’m confused as to which Submariner reference you own…
I assume it's a 16800 with a typo.
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Old 31 January 2024, 10:31 PM   #9
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I assume it's a 16800 with a typo.

Ah, right .

A “no date” Submariner would go along away for an uncluttered dial


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Old 31 January 2024, 10:36 PM   #10
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About as good as it gets
True. Some say the he 14060 hands are too thin, but I find it very readable without the date or GMT complications
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Old 1 February 2024, 02:23 AM   #11
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The Yachtmaster had a red second hand, and since it is the Sub Dates brother, the parts are a direct fit.

All you need to do is find one.
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Old 1 February 2024, 11:08 AM   #12
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I have a Submariner 18600, which Rolex repaired in April, 2022. Since then it's performed wonderfully; it's the most accurate mechanical watch I've ever seen and it should stay that way for many, many years.

But there's one thing I don't like about it. I often use my watch during swimming or rowing, either to take my pulse swimming laps or to time the number of seconds it's taken to row a certain number of meters.

For things like that, I find the face of the Submariner too cluttered to instantly pick out the second hand, so I wish that hand were more visible.

Most Rolex watches look similar in this area, with one exception: the bright green second hand of the Air King. The watches have similar movements so I expect an Air King second hand could be put on a Submariner. If it can, would Rolex be willing to sell me one and install it? I'd still want to keep the Submariner second hand in case a future owner wanted to put it back, but I don't think I ever would.

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Old 1 February 2024, 11:22 AM   #13
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Go for the Milgauss orange lightning bolt hand.
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Old 1 February 2024, 12:02 PM   #14
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The Yachtmaster had a red second hand, and since it is the Sub Dates brother, the parts are a direct fit.

All you need to do is find one.
At least one member has done this mod. Looks nice.
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I know this is a Rolex forums, but for non-cluttered dial on a luxury diver with a top-notch mechanical movement, I've enjoyed the Blancpain Bathyscaphe...

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