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14 August 2009, 04:39 PM | #61 | |
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Omeglomania, Welcome to the Rolex Forums aka "TRF"!
I started on this forum a year ago and Im still here today. TRF is a great place filled with many friendly and knowledgeable people that have a tremendous passion for Rolex watches. Quote:
Unless there has been some type of crime commited, threads that comment on "private" business transactions are in bad taste.
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14 August 2009, 06:07 PM | #62 |
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Welcome to the Forum Omeglomania.
IMO it was good that you joined to add to the discussion.
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I've been following this thread since it began, and think it is good to hear the other side of the story. First, I don't consider this a "deal gone bad", as the original poster stated. This is an error in communications, specifically on the part of the seller. His ad states a Coke & Pepsi bezel; therefore, I would expect an extra Coke or Pepsi bezel (with an insert to arrive) with the watch. Many here have said it was crazy for you to think you could get this watch w/ extra bezel & insert for the price listed. Ten months ago, I would have agreed. Today, given the economy, I would not be at all surprised to find this kind of deal, especially on a watch that is potentially pushing 4 years old. In addition, there are many folks out there who do have extra bezels complete w/ insert, especially for the 16710. I had several for 16610 Subs, but got rid of them a while back. Heck, I even have brand new bezel inserts for a GMT, and don't even own one. My point is spare parts are everywhere now, so this deal would not have been surprising to me at all. Plus, I looked at the sellers ad, and he mentions a bezel, but he shows neither an extra bezel or insert in the pictures. My assumption would be he has an extra bezel & insert. Either way, you chose the high road, kept the watch, and stated your side of the story in simple terms without emotion or name-calling. Solid move, in my opinion.
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14 August 2009, 10:07 PM | #65 |
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Omeglomania, welcome to the Forum.....
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Hi Omeglomania,
First off welcome to TRF. I'm sorry you are joining under these circumstances but hope you stick around. I am one of those who owe you an apology, so please allow me to do so now. I stated that I thought you were being anal about the transaction and I was absolutely wrong. For that I am sorry. No matter what I think I would have done or asked is irrelavant, and after thinking more about this, I believe you were not at fault here. I hope you will consider my apology and accept a sincere welcome. You handled this honorably and quite eloquently I might add. Hope to see you on the boards! Cordially, Patrick
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Wasn't going to post, but I read Patrick's post and feel the same way.
All is well that ends well. P.S. Nice watch : )
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This deal is tough as both sides have a point.
FWIW, getting a genuine Rolex bezel (not the insert) is *extremely* tough to obtain. Rolex does not sell bezels separately, even as a repair part. Bezels are not listed in any Rolex part books, and the only way to get a genuine bezel is from a Rolex watch that has been parted out. Most people would not know the scarcity of Rolex bezels until one tries to obtain one. -Sheldon
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15 August 2009, 12:57 AM | #71 |
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I don't know why i'm catching grief here. I immediately offered a full refund and never used the buyers name or made any other reference that would give away his identity. I was simply venting.
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You did say 'bezels'...
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I did say bezels and I offered to rectify the situation by putting the buyer back in the same position he was in before the transaction. I wasn't going to buy him a $400 - $600 bezel when it is easier/much cheaper to have the watch returned.
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Personally, I know neither you nor the buyer. I just found it astonishing that you and, perhaps more so, your erstwhile supporters, felt that the buyer "should have known better" and should have second guessed what was otherwise explicitly stated in your ad, as if he were expected to have E.S.P. |
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Confused about rules
I don't understand something here. I entered a post here a few weeks ago regarding a potential buyer here on TRF misunderstanding what I was selling, thinking I was selling an almost brand new Bluesy here in the TRF sale forum for $3500. I was scolded for posting in the wrong forum and my post was moved. Am I missing something here? Don't get me wrong Gob, I think this thread is perfectly fine for this forum, I just want to understand how these rules work.
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This one doesn't belong here either.. There are over 2,000 post a day on this forum and only a few Mods........ We don't catch everything... ........ but I don't see anywhere where you were "scolded"... maybe it's just a perception.. .........
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Please donot feel obliged to keep the watch just because of this thread since the seller is willing to refund full which is again excellent on his part. He did make a mistake in the description for which hes willing to refund. On your part if you are not satisfied with the deal you should not feel obliged to keep it just because the matter has become public, and as for providing a new bezel or refunding the cost of the bezel also doesnt say well... Conclusion keep if only if you are really happy with the deal and like the watch... and prove it by starting a new thread with lots of photos! |
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15 August 2009, 04:55 AM | #81 | |
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what i do see is that you started a thread asking for comments and thats exactly what you got whether you like the comments that agree with you and disslike the ones that dont is irrelevent if you dont want peoples opinions then dont ask for them! what would be nice is if the seller could wish the buyer to wear the watch in good health and then both parties move on omeglomania:- i hope you stick around here as its full of great people and please wear that watch in good health with a huge grin on your face Gob Bluth:- please also stick around and wear whatever watch you have in good health |
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15 August 2009, 07:15 AM | #82 |
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Thank you all for your warm welcome!
In the short time here I have learned a tremendous amount about the Rolex World and am impressed with the eagerness and sincerity with which the members share their experiences, passions, and knowlege. This first Rolex purchase has overall been positive and I do love the watch. There are so many beautiful models that I know it will not be the last, and I look forward to future transactions with the members of the Rolex Forum.
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15 August 2009, 08:15 AM | #83 |
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Miscommunication IMO. Seller is more responsible then the buyer. I don't hold the seller at fault as he was venting but feel the deal was misrepresented (even if unintentionally).
I would have assumed a 2nd bezel was included in the deal as well. The main difference is I would have agreed to the return for full refund as there are many GMT's out there for good prices. |
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There are many Rolexes for sale in this current 'downward' Economy. I have never bought a preowned, but I am receiving my first next month. And for almost half off the list price. Would that have surprised me last year before the October 2008 World Economic crisis? YES. Does it surprise me now, with all the head scratching Prices of Daytonas and DD's that I see in the FS Forums. "Buy my watch I need to pay rent!" -- NO. |
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15 August 2009, 09:21 AM | #85 | |
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Yes, I saw two bezels in the post!
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