GRØNE Manueel One

[cal14]

Who ordered one today?

They really didn’t compromise on the aesthetics!

[GB-man]

Hard for me to get excited about this one. Let us know your thoughts when it arrives?

[Enzo954]

It's nice looking but a little pricey for what it is IMO. What's the point of having a decorated movement with an enclosed case back? Lose the decoration and bring the price down more as far as I'm concerned. It will probably sell out quickly based on the people behind it.

[77T]

It's a little more than an hour since the pre-order time of 3pm in the Netherlands opened.

The website has this reminder:



The seller would need to replace the watch especially in this case where production will be over subscribed perhaps.

Just sharing in the spirit of communication.


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[unsprung]

I passed on this release. There‘s just nothing I find special about it.

[MattyL147]

Eh.

[FrugalGreubel]

I am honestly very confused by this release. It’s seems like a perfectly fine watch but I don’t think Grönefeld has enough enthusiasm to justify an entry level spinoff. I’m really curious why they went this route.

[unknown]

nope not for me.

I like their Gronefeld watches but these cheap things are in fact way too expensive for what you get.

Like these from Kurono Tokyo
Again, his real high end pieces are top but Kurono is overpriced

If you want to spend 3-4 K go get yourself a Tudor, in that case you get a lot of watch for your money and not something that only gets attention cause it's name is associated with a top watchmaker

[MILGAUSS88]

It's not for me, but I disagree with most of the comments.

I think there are plenty of people willing to pay 2,150 euro to get the Gronefeld aesthetic.
Don't have the same worries that you would wearing a $40k watch either. So, practical for more occasions.

[WatchEater666]

The design of the dial is not for me.

[trackingtime]

Originally Posted by FrugalGreubel

I am honestly very confused by this release. It’s seems like a perfectly fine watch but I don’t think Grönefeld has enough enthusiasm to justify an entry level spinoff. I’m really curious why they went this route.

MB&F style

they have to, to keep the company going.
these spin off are the cash cows

[bioyuki]

I love the concept, but passed on the actual watch. The faux tremblage just didn't work for me. I'm guessing a lot of the buyers will be current Grönefeld collectors vs MAD editions which are more for aspirational buyers of MB&F?

[Yobrooks]

I have a principia 1941, love it, and I jumped in on this release as soon as it opened up. Going to be a great daily/beater with much less concerns with fine scratches, and still with that Gronefeld touch, etc. They Sold out in 2 1/2 hours !! ... Averaged 2 watches sold per minute !

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[ChetBaker]

Really dislike it when brands do this. When VC and AP released entry level pieces with outsourced movements they got a lot of flack, and rightly so. This, similar to the MB&F fidget spinner, screams cheap moneygrab and just dilutes the brand these watchmakers carefully built over the years. A shame.

[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by ChetBaker

Really dislike it when brands do this. When VC and AP released entry level pieces with outsourced movements they got a lot of flack, and rightly so. This, similar to the MB&F fidget spinner, screams cheap moneygrab and just dilutes the brand these watchmakers carefully built over the years. A shame.

What about Tudor?

[FrugalGreubel]

Originally Posted by ChetBaker

Really dislike it when brands do this. When VC and AP released entry level pieces with outsourced movements they got a lot of flack, and rightly so. This, similar to the MB&F fidget spinner, screams cheap moneygrab and just dilutes the brand these watchmakers carefully built over the years. A shame.

I have mixed feelings. I have a MAD 1 and am very happy with it. It’s a fun watch and I don’t get super paranoid about something happening to it. I really want an MB&F but it’s gonna be a while until I can probably get one. I feel like the MAD series falls into that sweet spot where it has the interest of many different types of watch fans. This just feels different to me. The design language of Grönefeld watches just seems like an odd choice for this. I don’t hate the Grøne Manueel One. I just have no interest in it which is weird.

[FrugalGreubel]

Originally Posted by Yobrooks

I have a principia 1941, love it, and I jumped in on this release as soon as it opened up. Going to be a great daily/beater with much less concerns with fine scratches, and still with that Gronefeld touch, etc. They Sold out in 2 1/2 hours !! ... Averaged 2 watches sold per minute !

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Please post your thoughts when you get it.

[Yobrooks]

Originally Posted by FrugalGreubel

Please post your thoughts when you get it.

Will do, for sure.

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[WatchEater666]

Originally Posted by FrugalGreubel

I have mixed feelings. I have a MAD 1 and am very happy with it. It’s a fun watch and I don’t get super paranoid about something happening to it. I really want an MB&F but it’s gonna be a while until I can probably get one. I feel like the MAD series falls into that sweet spot where it has the interest of many different types of watch fans. This just feels different to me. The design language of Grönefeld watches just seems like an odd choice for this. I don’t hate the Grøne Manueel One. I just have no interest in it which is weird.

I feel like the main selling point of the Principia is the quality of execution more than the design or engineering.

With MB&F, it's a mix of all of those. With the mad1, I think it's a creative and fun way to make the brand more accessible.

[FrugalGreubel]

Originally Posted by WatchEater666

I feel like the main selling point of the Principia is the quality of execution more than the design or engineering.

With MB&F, it's a mix of all of those. With the mad1, I think it's a creative and fun way to make the brand more accessible.

Very well said.

[GSwagGB]

I ordered one so guess I’ll be one of the guinea pigs. I liked the looks and really do not have a dedicated dress watch and thought this could pass. I can tell the in person presentation will Either make or break it. Was a little
Difficult to get a read with pics alone but I took the chance. I also like it was their first model of this sub brand.

[charger_vital]

I disagree with several of these posts. This watch is similar to so many watches posted on here with rave reviews which come at 15x the price. Not sure why this one is “cheaply made” or “too expensive for what it is.” Generic movements are not offensive. Unless a watchmaker has some sort of important innovation with the movement (most don’t) or a great movement architecture (most don’t) making an in-house movement that does the same thing as a generic one is not more valuable… and probably not as sturdy. My two cents.

Congrats to those of you who like it and got it.


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[77T]

Is there any word on if this is being assembled at a separate atelier?

I get the time savings using a Sellita caliber.

It puzzles me that the main brand can't keep up with its current production needs but can launch this down-market model.


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[subtona]

That looks nice.
what does it look like?

[ChetBaker]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

I disagree with several of these posts. This watch is similar to so many watches posted on here with rave reviews which come at 15x the price. Not sure why this one is “cheaply made” or “too expensive for what it is.” Generic movements are not offensive.

There are literally zero watches with Sellita movements that cost 30k and that receive rave reviews. Zero. You pay for what you get. You pay 2k, you get a watch worth 2k, if that. If I wanted to spend 2k on a watch I'd much prefer a Studio Underdog or something else that has real soul because that is what the makers really want to make. Not a watch a watchmaker churns out to get by or to cash in. Moves like this don't bode well for the independent future of the brand and I think it's a shame.

[Ichiran]

Come on, there is still no image of the watch.

[Yobrooks]

I'm surprised about that hate... It's a great $2k watch, fun, from the Brothers, and allowed 388 folks to get in with the Gronefeld brand. Looks great, is as said, I have a salmon Principia but still jumped on this release as a casual daily wear. Love studio underdog as well but it's a totally different watch look.

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[kunlun]

I think what we're seeing is independents figuring out to stay financially stable.

[Enzo954]

I like the watch but would prefer if it had an exhibition case back since they decorated the movement. I might pick one up if they release new colorways.

I've seen a few people compare the look of it to this watch. The Delft Watch Works Oostpoort. The GRØNE has smaller dimensions and IMO a better movement but the look is similar.