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Old 3 February 2025, 11:59 AM   #31
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Looks like a Groove has formed. Needs polishing down correctly. Dont try yourself.


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Old 3 February 2025, 12:01 PM   #32
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President-bracelet question #1

Need better pics to tell you anything. Markings and stampings etc.


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Old 3 February 2025, 08:09 PM   #33
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The square cutout on clasp existed until about 1984ish. The round cutout was the replacement. It’s just a design change that happened. Doesn’t mean anything else.
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Old 3 February 2025, 10:25 PM   #34
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Time of production

Dear ronricks,

so the right bracelet was made in 1985 or earlier and the left one could be from the year 1956 up to approximately 1984?
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Old 3 February 2025, 11:53 PM   #35
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Hello,

could anyone please answer some tricky questions concerning the bracelets of two 1803 in WG?

These two backside-views of WG-President-bracelets show completely different (not only mirrored) clasps.

What's the matter with them?
Have they been produced in different years or is something not original?

What's the matter?
Neither appears to be OEM from just one poor picture.

If you have these bracelets in your possession, and wish for a serious discourse, most of us need to see much more detailed close-ups of the clasps inside and out.

If that's not possible on your end, I understand - just limited input available to your question.


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Old 4 February 2025, 04:43 AM   #36
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The first 2 pictures show the inner side of the left bracelet, the other 3 pictures show it of the right one.

Does it tell something about the year of production?
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Old 5 February 2025, 12:43 AM   #37
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OP, no need to keep starting new threads, you can reply to your thread with your new questions. The mods will most likely combine all of your posts into one.
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Old 6 February 2025, 08:46 PM   #38
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What's the matter?
Neither appears to be OEM from just one poor picture.

If you have these bracelets in your possession, and wish for a serious discourse, most of us need to see much more detailed close-ups of the clasps inside and out.

If that's not possible on your end, I understand - just limited input available to your question.


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So now, that you can see more detailed close-ups, what can you tell about the years of production?
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What do you think about this WG 1803?

Right Clasp code of M11 would suggest November 1988 production. Other photos appear to be of an OEM clasp.

Left Clasp code is not in any photos. However, they appear to be of a not authentic clasp.


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Right Clasp code of M11 would suggest November 1988 production. Other photos appear to be of an OEM clasp.

Left Clasp code is not in any photos. However, they appear to be of a not authentic clasp.


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Right bracelet:
From 11/1988, so it is not from a 1803 but from a late 18038 or even from a 18230? So the end limbs are not hollow but massive?
What is an "OEM clasp", what does "OEM" stand for?

Left bracelet:
There are no other stamps or engravings in or on the clasp than those shown on the pics.
"Not authentic clasp" means from another watch?
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OEM = Rolex SA
Not authentic = possible fake


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