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Oliva17 · 4 April 2012, 07:19 AM

Hi guys,

I'm interested in purchasing a PAM 104, this is exactly what I'm looking for! Would it be a sin to change the crystal for another one but without the cyclop???

Not sure, since this would be my first PAM, wanted to get advice from experienced Panerai owners!

Looking forward to your reply!

Cheers

Cru Jones · 4 April 2012, 07:26 AM

It's your watch, do what you want.

I've never actually seen such a mod, but given the number of people who aren't sold on the cyclops, I'm surprised I haven't seen it. Personally, I think the cyclops balances out the dial nicely, so, I don't mind it.

mfer · 4 April 2012, 07:32 AM

I've researched it, you have to replace the xtal asthe cyclops isn't glued on like a Rolex. It is part of the xtal. I'm not sure how you'd get the correct size xtal.

Hoppyjr · 4 April 2012, 07:57 AM

Since I am not fond of any cyclops know a watch, I would appreciate such a modification. This said, you would likely hurt resale value.

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Cru Jones · 4 April 2012, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

I've researched it, you have to replace the xtal asthe cyclops isn't glued on like a Rolex. It is part of the xtal. I'm not sure how you'd get the correct size xtal.

Assuming you could source it, couldn't you just insert a 111, 112, 176, 177, etc., crystal?

mfer · 4 April 2012, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Assuming you could source it, couldn't you just insert a 111, 112, 176, 177, etc., crystal?

I'm not 100% sure if a 111/112/176/177/000/005 crystal is the exact same as a 104. Hopefully, but again, not 100% sure.

B. Doggy · 4 April 2012, 11:28 AM

Get a 312.

kilyung · 4 April 2012, 11:59 AM

104 crystal is dimensionally the same as 111.

Width: 36.00mm
Thickness 1.50mm

toulouse · 4 April 2012, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B. Doggy

Get a 312.

+1 Better off with a 312 IMO. You'll be paying for a new crystal anyway. Might as well pay a little more if the cyclops bugs you. Or get a non-date, like a 177.

andrew79 · 4 April 2012, 05:13 PM

312 to the rescue....

Wristmaster · 4 April 2012, 08:06 PM

Yeaaa, go for 312 .it is also automatic ,renewed case, brushed case with polished bezel. Its simply a 104 with total makeover. And the movement in 312 is P.9000 executed entirely by Panerai a.k.a In house. And last but not least. No cyclop.

Cru Jones · 4 April 2012, 08:23 PM

312 is a fine choice, but, i would just add that trying it on is important, as wrists vary and the 1950s case doesn't always sit as well on the wrist as the non-1950s. i originally wanted a 312, but went with the luminor case after having tried them on. if it does sit well, 312 is a great reference.

mfer · 4 April 2012, 10:30 PM

Dupe

mfer · 4 April 2012, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

312 is a fine choice, but, i would just add that trying it on is important, as wrists vary and the 1950s case doesn't always sit as well on the wrist as the non-1950s. i originally wanted a 312, but went with the luminor case after having tried them on. if it does sit well, 312 is a great reference.

4 April 2012, 07:19 AM	#1
Oliva17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 24	Pam 104 modification!! Need advice! Hi guys, I'm interested in purchasing a PAM 104, this is exactly what I'm looking for! Would it be a sin to change the crystal for another one but without the cyclop??? Not sure, since this would be my first PAM, wanted to get advice from experienced Panerai owners! Looking forward to your reply! Cheers

4 April 2012, 11:28 AM	#7
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Get a 312. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

4 April 2012, 05:13 PM	#10
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	312 to the rescue.... __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

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4 April 2012, 07:26 AM	#2
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 35,630	It's your watch, do what you want. I've never actually seen such a mod, but given the number of people who aren't sold on the cyclops, I'm surprised I haven't seen it. Personally, I think the cyclops balances out the dial nicely, so, I don't mind it.

4 April 2012, 07:32 AM	#3
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	I've researched it, you have to replace the xtal asthe cyclops isn't glued on like a Rolex. It is part of the xtal. I'm not sure how you'd get the correct size xtal.

4 April 2012, 07:57 AM	#4
Hoppyjr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Washington State Posts: 441	Since I am not fond of any cyclops know a watch, I would appreciate such a modification. This said, you would likely hurt resale value. posted using Tapatalk

4 April 2012, 11:59 AM	#8
kilyung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,950	104 crystal is dimensionally the same as 111. Width: 36.00mm Thickness 1.50mm

4 April 2012, 08:06 PM	#11
Wristmaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: A.K.W Location: Indonesia Watch: Me Watching U Posts: 587	Yeaaa, go for 312 .it is also automatic ,renewed case, brushed case with polished bezel. Its simply a 104 with total makeover. And the movement in 312 is P.9000 executed entirely by Panerai a.k.a In house. And last but not least. No cyclop.

4 April 2012, 08:23 PM	#12
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 35,630	312 is a fine choice, but, i would just add that trying it on is important, as wrists vary and the 1950s case doesn't always sit as well on the wrist as the non-1950s. i originally wanted a 312, but went with the luminor case after having tried them on. if it does sit well, 312 is a great reference.

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