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Old 21 July 2014, 04:29 AM   #1
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Need help for DRSD

My friend just sent me these pics.
I have no idea about it,
It's no box & paper.
can you tell me is it real or not and how much it could be.
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Old 21 July 2014, 04:32 AM   #2
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Old 21 July 2014, 04:46 AM   #3
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Old 21 July 2014, 05:50 AM   #4
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What is the serial number?
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Old 21 July 2014, 06:01 AM   #5
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Looks pretty good to me - you'd have to check that the numbers in the case-back and on the case side match; if they do, it's a later one (up to about 5.2 mil/circa '77/'78) just before the white-text dials ('great white') were released, I believe. This would be consistent with the MK IV dial.
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Old 21 July 2014, 06:46 AM   #6
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Looks pretty good to me - you'd have to check that the numbers in the case-back and on the case side match; if they do, it's a later one (up to about 5.2 mil/circa '77/'78) just before the white-text dials ('great white') were released, I believe. This would be consistent with the MK IV dial.
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Why it still glow in the dark?
How much should I pay for??
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Old 21 July 2014, 07:40 AM   #7
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Possible re-lume; hard to tell from those pics. Can't say a price, especially if the dial isn't in original condition. It also depends how much/long it glows, as many of the old tritium dials still emit some glow...
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Old 21 July 2014, 08:57 AM   #8
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Old 21 July 2014, 09:04 AM   #9
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The dial has been relumed and the hands have been replaced.
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Old 21 July 2014, 11:45 AM   #10
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The dial has been relumed and the hands have been replaced.
How much should I pay for it?
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Old 21 July 2014, 12:55 PM   #11
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What is the serial number?


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Old 21 July 2014, 01:00 PM   #12
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So it is likely a relumed mk 4 DRSD with a transitional case back. A quick peek at the inside of the case back will tell you if it is original to the watch.
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Old 21 July 2014, 01:19 PM   #13
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Old 21 July 2014, 03:53 PM   #14
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If you want to own it, despite its issues, no more than $15,000. There will not be an easy resale beyond this price.

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Old 21 July 2014, 06:11 PM   #15
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yes, that's what I thought - some of these 'last' double reds used the case-backs which were then used on the whites, i.e., 'Rolex' in circular configuration with the rest of the text, as opposed to straight across, which is how the earlier ones were made.
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Old 22 July 2014, 09:04 AM   #16
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Yep, Vincent. The very last of the DRSDs. Mine has the "curved" case back. I purchased it in the spring of 1978 at Bucherer's in Geneva for $564.00.
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Old 22 July 2014, 09:21 AM   #17
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Beef what are the first three numbers of the serial?
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Old 22 July 2014, 09:25 AM   #18
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so it is likely a relumed mk 4 drsd with a transitional case back. A quick peek at the inside of the case back will tell you if it is original to the watch.
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Old 22 July 2014, 08:21 PM   #19
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Yep, Vincent. The very last of the DRSDs. Mine has the "curved" case back. I purchased it in the spring of 1978 at Bucherer's in Geneva for $564.00.
Nice one, Beef - lucky you!
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Old 23 July 2014, 07:21 AM   #20
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Beef what are the first three numbers of the serial?
Beaumont, I will pick it up at the bank vault later this week or first of next week and gladly get that info. I still have the receipt. For a long time there was debate about whether the transitional models were DRSDs or Great Whites that had been modified. Ed Delgado and his folks put that issue to rest a few years back. Besides pictures I've posted on here, mine also is pictured on Ed's website.
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Old 23 July 2014, 07:27 AM   #21
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Nice one, Beef - lucky you!
Thanks, Vincent! That was one of my best investments, ever. Due to no fault of my own, I might add. My only better investment was $300 I spent on a bunch of MACV SOG Recon Team patches at Cecil Smythe's shop on Hay St., Fayetteville, NC in 1974. I sold them for almost $30K in 2010 and rolled it over into, guess what...??
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Old 7 August 2014, 07:06 AM   #22
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Sorry to just be getting back to you, man! The first 3 digits are "565." I trued to take a picture, but being an iPhone only photographer.....Dial close up:
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"Curved" case back, Name and SSN taped over:
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Thanks for the follow up post. Great looking watch with a beautiful dial.
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