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Bobareno · 28 March 2008, 06:08 AM

When RSC does a service on a watch, would they replace the jewels? Do the jewels ever wear out?

frostie · 28 March 2008, 06:10 AM

I think that the jewels are not replaced cause they are fade free but i am not 100% if the jewels are fade free.

Let's see what the more knowledgeable members will say

Jocke · 28 March 2008, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobareno

When RSC does a service on a watch, would they replace the jewels? Do the jewels ever wear out?

They only replace jewels if they are damaged and that is not often. A fact about
Rolex movement is, if you service your watch in a 5 years period so will it
normal only needs service parts.

Jocke

frostie · 28 March 2008, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

They only replace jewels if they are damaged and that is not often. A fact about
Rolex movement is, if you service your watch in a 5 years period so will it
normal only needs service parts.

Jocke

From what can a jewel be damaged?

Jocke · 28 March 2008, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostie

From what can a jewel be damaged?

Shock or if you drop the watch at the floor for example. But it´s not often.

You will never wear it out.

Jocke

frostie · 28 March 2008, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

Shock or if you drop the watch at the floor for example. But it´s not often.

You will never wear it out.

Jocke

Ok

Thanks for the info

Bobareno · 28 March 2008, 06:20 AM

I just had my GMT 16750 serviced by RSC in SF. They said nothing about any needed parts buy a Bezal insert and Cyrstal and band parts, it was bought in 1987 and had NEVER been serviced. It kept time very well and I never had a problem with it, I was worried because of the long time before it was serviced by the total charge with re-finnishing it the band and a extra band I had was only $770. Guess I was lucky?

frostie · 28 March 2008, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobareno

I just had my GMT 16750 serviced by RSC in SF. They said nothing about any needed parts buy a Bezal insert and Cyrstal and band parts, it was bought in 1987 and had NEVER been serviced. It kept time very well and I never had a problem with it, I was worried because of the long time before it was serviced by the total charge with re-finnishing it the band and a extra band I had was only $770. Guess I was lucky?

Rolex are durable watches there are some people that haven't serviced their watch for 30 years and it still works but if you want to avoid any damage or risk then the best and most advisable thing to do is to service your watch every 5-7 years.

Please post some pics of your watch

SPACE-DWELLER · 28 March 2008, 08:13 AM

What would the cost be, if the unlikely event happens that a jewel in a watch needs exchanging? They are synthetic, but my guess is they still don't come cheap!

KanzenR_1983 · 28 March 2008, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

What would the cost be, if the unlikely event happens that a jewel in a watch needs exchanging? They are synthetic, but my guess is they still don't come cheap!

can someone elaborate more on what the jewel actually is? i know my watches came with many of them lol

etp095 · 28 March 2008, 08:25 AM

i belive the jewels work as bearings.
i was expecting a big bill for my 39 year old never serviced oyster date,the only extra parts that were added was the winding crown and case tube.

Wildwing · 28 March 2008, 10:20 AM

I have heard that the jewels in a movement are rubies. If this is the case, then they are unlikely to ever get worn or damaged, as a ruby is basically a red sapphire, or the second hardest mineral to a diamond. At least that's what I've read.

abigsecret · 28 March 2008, 02:40 PM

The jewels are synthetic. They used to be rubies, way back in the day.
They are replaced if necessary as part of the service, they won't cost any extra $$.
Same for most of the parts that will be replaced inside the movement.
The invoice doesn't state every single part that gets replaced.
If your watch hasn't received any service in a long time, there are for sure trainwheels replaced, because they will be worn out!
The jewels actually will "cut" the pivots of the wheels when the oils are dried out.
Back when they used brass bearings for the pivots, they would wear out just as much as the pivots themselves, and it's much harder to replace those, than it is for wheels.
Some of the older movements, like the 1530/70 and even some of the 3035's have some brass or copper bearings, which require replacement when a service is way over-due.
Which not every watchmaker will do (because it takes too much time and skill) and that'll result in a less accurate time piece...

jasonbellevue · 28 March 2008, 02:44 PM

Very useful information, thanks Mireyna and Jocke.

Alcan · 28 March 2008, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KanzenR_1983

can someone elaborate more on what the jewel actually is? i know my watches came with many of them lol

http://www.europastar.com/europastar...h/nicolet3.jsp

Alcan · 28 March 2008, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

What would the cost be, if the unlikely event happens that a jewel in a watch needs exchanging? They are synthetic, but my guess is they still don't come cheap!

They're essentially aluminum oxide, with a bit of chromium oxide added to achieve the red colour, and cost pennies to produce.

Trurolexer · 28 March 2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by frostie

Ok

Thanks for the info

X2!!!

Bobareno · 29 March 2008, 04:22 AM

Thanks for all this info! Best Rolex info ever!

CoopJr · 29 March 2008, 04:35 AM

Al...love the new Avatar!! LMAO!!

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28 March 2008, 08:25 AM	#11
etp095 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: rudolph Location: chicago burbs Posts: 2,026	i belive the jewels work as bearings. i was expecting a big bill for my 39 year old never serviced oyster date,the only extra parts that were added was the winding crown and case tube. __________________ tt date circa 69' 5513 circa 81' ss sub w/date (z) pepsi gmt for dad(D) polar expy II(z) 1675 gmt circa 68' ladies datejust on jubilee for mom (z) sea dweller16600(M) SS Sub-C(g) Omega Planet Ocean,45.5 on mesh(2500D)

28 March 2008, 02:40 PM	#13
abigsecret "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Mireyna Location: s o t r Watch: your back! Posts: 2,282	The jewels are synthetic. They used to be rubies, way back in the day. They are replaced if necessary as part of the service, they won't cost any extra $$. Same for most of the parts that will be replaced inside the movement. The invoice doesn't state every single part that gets replaced. If your watch hasn't received any service in a long time, there are for sure trainwheels replaced, because they will be worn out! The jewels actually will "cut" the pivots of the wheels when the oils are dried out. Back when they used brass bearings for the pivots, they would wear out just as much as the pivots themselves, and it's much harder to replace those, than it is for wheels. Some of the older movements, like the 1530/70 and even some of the 3035's have some brass or copper bearings, which require replacement when a service is way over-due. Which not every watchmaker will do (because it takes too much time and skill) and that'll result in a less accurate time piece... __________________ #6267 He who knows no foreign language does not know his own.-Goethe

28 March 2008, 06:20 AM	#7
Bobareno Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 739	I just had my GMT 16750 serviced by RSC in SF. They said nothing about any needed parts buy a Bezal insert and Cyrstal and band parts, it was bought in 1987 and had NEVER been serviced. It kept time very well and I never had a problem with it, I was worried because of the long time before it was serviced by the total charge with re-finnishing it the band and a extra band I had was only $770. Guess I was lucky?

28 March 2008, 10:20 AM	#12
Wildwing "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 593	I have heard that the jewels in a movement are rubies. If this is the case, then they are unlikely to ever get worn or damaged, as a ruby is basically a red sapphire, or the second hardest mineral to a diamond. At least that's what I've read.

28 March 2008, 02:44 PM	#14
jasonbellevue "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Jason Location: at home Posts: 5,098	Very useful information, thanks Mireyna and Jocke. __________________

29 March 2008, 04:22 AM	#18
Bobareno Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 739	Thanks for all this info! Best Rolex info ever!

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CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	Al...love the new Avatar!! LMAO!!

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