Do you think Rolex feels as much its worth?

[daytona_mania]

Hey guys, wanted to know how other TRFers feel about their Rolex's?

That is do you feel that when you wear your Rolex you are actually wearing $4000+ ?

As compared to Patek's, I know they are expensive but when they have lines that have rubber straps, I don't SEE or feel the value of their watches!!

Any thoughts?

(PS. I know PP's have amazing internal gadgetry and the like, and all are hand-made, but I just can't get over the rubber straps!)

[Jedi]

It's perceived value most of the time, in that one derives pleasure from how the watch makes one feel.

Patek only has one line of watches with rubber straps, the Aquanaut line, and it's a refined product, even the strap. Non-allergenic, unscented (unlike say Chopard for instance) and extremely comfortable. It's just a well made watch, not unlike say a Sub Date.

Horses for causes. The comparison between Rolex and Patek is like saying Macdonald's or Gordon Ramsay. To me anyway and I love a Quarter Pounder as much as I love Foie Gras.

[SPORTSFAN]

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[sfrolex]

Which one is McDonalds - Rolex or Patek?

[BigHat]

To me Rolex watches tend to have a substantial feel to them and manipulating the crown also conveys a sense of quality.

Discussing any luxury item as a value proposition is hard. MANY more people will think you crazy for parting with the $$$$ for a watch than think you wise, and majority of people couldn't care less.

We need to remember we drink our own bath water around where. TRF is NOT representative of the world's view of Rolex or any other high-end brand.

[RW16610]

Originally Posted by Jedi

It's perceived value most of the time, in that one derives pleasure from how the watch makes one feel.

Patek only has one line of watches with rubber straps, the Aquanaut line, and it's a refined product, even the strap. Non-allergenic, unscented (unlike say Chopard for instance) and extremely comfortable. It's just a well made watch, not unlike say a Sub Date.

You do raise a valid point there but I don't know in general. Just a prefrence and status thing.

Originally Posted by BigHat

To me Rolex watches tend to have a substantial feel to them and manipulating the crown also conveys a sense of quality.

Discussing any luxury item as a value proposition is hard. MANY more people will think you crazy for parting with the $$$$ for a watch than think you wise and majority of people couldn't care less.

We need to remember we drink our own bath water around where. TRF is NOT representative of the world's view of Rolex or any other high-end brand.

Yes there is a TINY percentage of watch lovers on this forum. A few thousands and most do not even post messages.

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by sfrolex

Which one is McDonalds - Rolex or Patek?

If either one has to be the "Golden Arches" is would be Rolex.

Comparisons to Mickey Dees is pretty prejorative, so let's say one is a 3-star rest. and one has a 4-star rating.

[mborkow]

The only watch that didn't have a quality feel when I picked it up was the 14060. It just felt too light...I love the way the watch looks, but it just doesn't have enough heft to it. the Sub Date and the Sea Dweller on the other hand both felt great...

[RW16610]

Originally Posted by mborkow

The only watch that didn't have a quality feel when I picked it up was the 14060. It just felt too light...I love the way the watch looks, but it just doesn't have enough heft to it. the Sub Date and the Sea Dweller on the other hand both felt great...

That is an important factor to me also. A watch that is and feels totally solid. Hefty feel to it when you wear and pick it up adds to the experience for me.

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by RW16610

That is an important factor to me also. A watch that is and feels totally solid. Hefty feel to it when you wear and pick it up adds to the experience for me.

True how weight almost always conveys quality and value. I think HT equipment makers add "balast" to a DVD player or amp for this reason.

Best watch example though is the AP Royal Oak Offshore chrono made from forged carbon. The darn thing was so light they had to add more metal to it so that it didn't feel so Casio-like. Seems to have worked, you need to pay about 180% of MSRP to get one in the grey market.

[London]

Not sure other folks will agree, but when I tried on a GMT IIc for the first time, I thought it felt like it was worth the money more than a Sub does - even if the GMT IIc costs more. Solid bracelet and proper clasp has a lot to do with it.

[Dan Pierce]

Yes I do.
dP

[DSJ]

I'm sometimes struck by the thought (particularly when I am "dressed down"), "Good God, I'm wearing a watch that retails for over $5K/$9K!" Crazy!

This thread just made me realize I hadn't put a watch on yet today!

[Jedi]

Originally Posted by BigHat

If either one has to be the "Golden Arches" is would be Rolex.

Comparisons to Mickey Dees is pretty prejorative, so let's say one is a 3-star rest. and one has a 4-star rating.

C'mon Matt... Gordon would rate 5 stars no?? Okay then, since we're talking European brands, let's use Michelin stars ok?

2 stars vs 3 stars then

[RW16610]

Originally Posted by BigHat

True how weight almost always conveys quality and value. I think HT equipment makers add "balast" to a DVD player or amp for this reason.

Best watch example though is the AP Royal Oak Offshore chrono made from forged carbon. The darn thing was so light they had to add more metal to it so that it didn't feel so Casio-like. Seems to have worked, you need to pay about 180% of MSRP to get one in the grey market.

Yeah this too is why Titanium watches were never anything I liked. Do not like the finish and do not like the slightly lighter feel. I am a hefty watch person, would wear a watch that weights a ton on my wrist and not mind. Gives me that rock solid quality feeling and you simply adjust to it over time.

A watch on leather or rubber will of course be lighter, they are still very nice and the look only appeals to some. Do not mind rubber or leather myself but my wrists are very small and I like to wear my braceslits a little bit slack. Not to mention Leather is so nice yet so limited... Good luck getting it wet.... A friend of mine had to replace his and they if worn daily go downhill faster and is just a pain in my eyes for someting that is made to last so long to need a strap replacing more frquently. My watches must be rugged yet look great for any setting and Rolex does a fine job of it. Does not mean a more elegant or dressy watch can not handle daily wear and swimming but you know what I mean.

Originally Posted by London

Not sure other folks will agree, but when I tried on a GMT IIc for the first time, I thought it felt like it was worth the money more than a Sub does - even if the GMT IIc costs more. Solid bracelet and proper clasp has a lot to do with it.

No that is what made me hold of the current Submariner for the GMT Master IIc or updated Submariner to come (some say 2010 Basel world). Hollow centre links do not fly with me, period. Own other watches like a Fortis B-42 Cosmonaut that make probably any watch feel light so after wearing that for 2 years in the past it is tough to go lighter. That could be your preception or the fact that the GMT Master IIc has a better clasp and solid centre links for what ever extra weight it adds. The current Submariner is great but regardless to what anyone says the hollow centre links do not help long term braceslit stretching at all. Never understood why they were used espectially on a divers watch that can have particles of whatever get trapped in there or just dirt.... yuck.... For me i'll rather pay more and have them solid (The new Rolexes) but just my $0.02

[newrolexman]

The Rollies feel great on my arm.

The GMT llc has such a sporty look and go with day to day outfits.

The sunday watch , the DD YG feels like a million dollars.

I wouldnt trade for a PP, no way and I never eat fast food.



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[sfrolex]

Originally Posted by BigHat

If either one has to be the "Golden Arches" is would be Rolex.

Comparisons to Mickey Dees is pretty prejorative, so let's say one is a 3-star rest. and one has a 4-star rating.

Hmm, Patek watches seem "dainty" to me. Their watches seem to be OK for gambling in Monaco, but not everyday life.

Patek is the elaborate 3 foot high chocolate dessert I would never want to touch, and Rolex is the Kobe beef from Ruth's Chris.

[JJ Irani]

The value and worth of any item is in the eyes of the beholder.

Yes, I feel the NZ$9500 I spent on my stunning Platty is worth every damn cent......and the superb Subby I received from Bubba is priceless because of the love and affection with which it was sent!!

[Jedi]

Originally Posted by sfrolex

Hmm, Patek watches seem "dainty" to me. Their watches seem to be OK for gambling in Monaco, but not everyday life.

Patek is the elaborate 3 foot high chocolate dessert I would never want to touch, and Rolex is the Kobe beef from Ruth's Chris.

With all due respect, Rolex is a great brand and so is Patek. They occupy a certain place respectively, and neither is better than the either. Dainty in what sense? There are Patek watches still ticking that were made long before Rolex was even conceived of. To compare either in terms of merit is simply impossible.

My earlier quip on things between MickeyD's and what have you not were meant in jest, but face it, there are days when a burger would work better over a 10 course degustation menu. One is better left for special occassions.

I maintain that Rolex is a far superior day to day watch, but in the interest of greater horological broadness, it is better to seek diversity for whatever purpose, least of all to improve one's breadth of knowledge and level of appreciation.

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by Jedi

C'mon Matt... Gordon would rate 5 stars no?? Okay then, since we're talking European brands, let's use Michelin stars ok?

2 stars vs 3 stars then

LOL. Lee, Swear I was going to use the Michelin ratings in this analogy but thought better of it.

[Jedi]

Gee, wonder how many stars would Lange have then?

[SPACE-DWELLER]

I've owned and tried on many brands but nothing feels like a Rolex.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by space-dweller

i've owned and tried on many brands but nothing feels like a rolex.

x 2 !

[Zed Homme]

Rolex is a great brand with good quality. However, they are very mass produced and nothing exotic. In the world of horology, I consider Rolex (being a true manufacterer) middle of the road, while Patek, AP, Vacheron Constanin, Lange, FP Journe and other smaller specialty builders are at the top. On the same note, I think Rolex to be a higher caliber watch than Breitling, Panerai, or Omega...

[f16570]

Worth the price,????????????????
Worth wearing? You bet.

[fear]

A lot of it is marketing too. We agree that the watch is worth $5,000+ because someone told us so. That idea is accepted and we agree on it's worth.

Really, are diamonds worth what they are? Debeers tell us the worth and we accept it.

[Mars]

Originally Posted by daytona_mania

That is do you feel that when you wear your Rolex you are actually wearing $4000+ ?

When I got my 1st Rolex, a SS DJ last year, every time I wore it I was so focused on it - the cost, the look, the heft, etc. I actually felt I was wearing a $5K watch & kept thinking about the cost. This feeling had me constantly checking it out & everyone around me thought I was a wanker & got paid too much. Probably the majority went with wanker.

Then I got my YG DD, which is a $30K watch or valued at that (didn't pay that much BTW). Same thing as the DJ. Now everyone thought / thinks I'm a wanker.

So, I put on a $10K Brioni suit, a $500 Zegna shirt, $1K YG cufflinks, a $300 Kiton tie, $800 Bally shoes, my $2.50 undies & my $1 socks accessorised with DJ on my left wrist & DD on my right wrist & took a walk (strut) through town.

F$%k it felt good. But was I ever the wanker!

Anyhows, this cured me & now it's just a watch. I know it's a Rolex, but no more wanker. And I gave back my brother's clothes (except the undies & socks which were mine).

[sombunya]

Originally Posted by Zed Homme

Rolex is a great brand with good quality. However, they are very mass produced and nothing exotic. In the world of horology, I consider Rolex (being a true manufacterer) middle of the road, while Patek, AP, Vacheron Constanin, Lange, FP Journe and other smaller specialty builders are at the top.

That's pretty much what most jewelers said when I was shopping for a watch.

Mercedes Benz is recognized worldwide as a fine automobile, one of the finest, by most people. Is it the best? Depends on your criteria but by most measures, no. However, the company is a giant and their cars can take the worst of beatings.

I bought a TT DJ because I wanted a watch that would work all the time, under any conditions. I'm not particularly hard on a watch and will take it off rather than abuse it. If I wanted flash and compliments I would have bought one of the sport models or maybe a J.C. or something. Heck, from 15 feet away my DJ looks like a $150 Citizen to most people.
I bought Rolex for the same reason I buy F-series Nikon cameras and Snap-On tools. I wanted something that worked all the time.

Rolex's are supposed to built like tanks. I was on an airplane once and saw an ad stating how some guy climbed Mt. Everest and wore a Rolie because. Kind of like the first landing on the moon; the astronauts used a specially modified Hasselblad because when it costs XXX dollars to get somewhere they had better bring back the goods.

That being said I'll have a few questions to ask the RSC in Beverly Hills when I drop off my two month old DJ next week.

[gmh1013]

Originally Posted by sombunya

That's pretty much what most jewelers said when I was shopping for a watch.

Mercedes Benz is recognized worldwide as a fine automobile, one of the finest, by most people. Is it the best? Depends on your criteria but by most measures, no. However, the company is a giant and their cars can take the worst of beatings.

I bought a TT DJ because I wanted a watch that would work all the time, under any conditions. I'm not particularly hard on a watch and will take it off rather than abuse it. If I wanted flash and compliments I would have bought one of the sport models or maybe a J.C. or something. Heck, from 15 feet away my DJ looks like a $150 Citizen to most people.
I bought Rolex for the same reason I buy F-series Nikon cameras and Snap-On tools. I wanted something that worked all the time.

Rolex's are supposed to built like tanks. I was on an airplane once and saw an ad stating how some guy climbed Mt. Everest and wore a Rolie because. Kind of like the first landing on the moon; the astronauts used a specially modified Hasselblad because when it costs XXX dollars to get somewhere they had better bring back the goods.

That being said I'll have a few questions to ask the RSC in Beverly Hills when I drop off my two month old DJ next week.

Omega has the honor as being the first watch on the moon.
I like my DJ but not over many other ones that I own.
Like you said it a mass produced watch just like my Omega /Breitling
As far as keeping perfect time that honor goes to my Omega SMP
electric blue ... less than 1 second fast a day compared to an Atomic clock.
Its keep this up for 4 years now...
Moon watch is minus 1 sec a day....
DJ is 3 over