Cognac/Brandy paradox.?

[padi56]

I've been doing some reading on Cognac and brandy and found that due to the oak ageing the drink is full of a substance which is also found in raspberries and some other fruits, called Ellagic Acid. This stuff is supposed to be a super antioxidant which has been claimed to stop cancer cells from dividing.

Now, the funny thing is that the French of course (and to be fair ANY producer of wine/brandy) are heralding this because the whole wine paradox raised red wine sales and now if the public at large hears this then brandy/Cognac/Armagnac will of course sell more. Wonder if its the same for whiskey they use Oak casks for ageing ....
Then I found this link.http://le-cognac.com/new12_us.html

[Rockrolex]

I wonder if the same medicinal benefits are achieved by drinking The Macallan 25, which is aged in sherry oak casks. You get the benefits of the oak along with the added benefits of the sherry (which is similar to a cognac). I always had a feeling I was drinking that stuff for more than it's wonderful taste. It's now been confirmed that it has medicinal benefits. Ain't life grand.
Why, thanks, I believe I will have another one.

[padi56]

Well Ed like most things in life,a little bit of what you fancy does you good.
But to much of what you fancy,can do you more harm than good.

[Rockrolex]

Originally Posted by padi56

Well Ed like most things in life,a little bit of what you fancy does you good.
But to much of what you fancy,can do you more harm than good.

I agree, Peter. All things in moderation. That's why there are only two times when I drink: when I'm alone or when I'm with someone.

[Earl]

ROFLMAO Ed your tomuch, btw

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

I agree, Peter. All things in moderation. That's why there are only two times when I drink: when I'm alone or when I'm with someone.

LMAO yes must agree with you on that point Ed.

[dman]

LOL Ed!! I really don't drink at all anymore, but nicotine is a whole different story. Everytime I try to quit I hear my Fathers voice telling me that are family is not a bunch of quitters.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

I agree, Peter. All things in moderation. That's why there are only two times when I drink: when I'm alone or when I'm with someone.

Would you drink with me, Ed? Me? Me? Me?

[Rockrolex]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Would you drink with me, Ed? Me? Me? Me?

I said there are only two times when I drink: "when I'm alone or when I'm with someone."

Get my point?

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

I said there are only two times when I drink: "when I'm alone or when I'm with someone."

Get my point?

Sheesh....and I thought we were friends.....you just ruined my Friday...

[padi56]

Originally Posted by dman

LOL Ed!! I really don't drink at all anymore, but nicotine is a whole different story. Everytime I try to quit I hear my Fathers voice telling me that are family is not a bunch of quitters.

Now Darren thats really bad for you,myself was a heavy smoker buying
around 80 cigs a day.But I stopped in 1973,have not smoked since,Darren
you must try, no you must stop smoking.But you must be fully committed first
to stop,only you can do it mate, so please stop its not as hard as you think.

[Rockrolex]

Originally Posted by dman

LOL Ed!! I really don't drink at all anymore, but nicotine is a whole different story. Everytime I try to quit I hear my Fathers voice telling me that are family is not a bunch of quitters.

I agree with Padi, you really should try to quit (the hell with what your father said ). It's not that hard. I've quit at least 3 or 4 times. I smoked for 30 years (sometimes up to 3 packs a day). Then I quit for 13 years but made the mistake of thinking after all that time I could just have one. Well, one led to another a month later, than another a week later, and . . . . Well, you get the picture. So after another 13 years I quit again. It really wasn't that hard. I just said to myself, don't have a cigarette right now. Hold off for a while. I kept saying that to myself long enough that I found after a few weeks, I didn't have to say it so often. It's been over three years now and I do feel much better physically. I only miss smoking once in a great while, and then only occasionally when I'm sitting around with a cup of coffee. But I also know that I am a cigaholic. So I can never have another one. But that's fine with me. For one thing, it's not costing me an arm and a leg for cigs anymore. What is a pack up to now - $4.00?

Bottom line, try to stop. If you need a support group, you know where you've got one.

Daren, seriously dude, you gotta quit... for the sake of your little guy.

I grew up as the only non-smoker in my family. Dad smoked 5 packs a day (Rothmans) and mum was 2-3 packs a day. My sister started at age 14 and my brother age 12.

My siblings still smoke, but my parents quit cold turkey 19 years ago. Imagine for my dad, if you will. He was in the process of losing 80lbs of fat AND he quit his 5 pack a day habit (that he'd had since the 1950s) at the same time. He was NOT fun to be around, but he did it.

How?

My best friend had been driving home from his summer job, after the night shift (like me, working his way through school) and his car got hit by a drunk driver going almost triple the posted speed limit and this a-hole was four times over the legal limit and it was his third DWI offense.

Poor Pete had no idea what happened, and he was in a coma for 18 months. My dad said that he'd quit when Pete came-to and asked him to quit. Miraculously, he did and my dad stuck to his commitment.

Daren... quit man. You can do it!

[dman]

I know I need to, I quit drinking more as a "I'll show the people that think I can't!". I just need to take the same attitude and quit. I flinch at the thought of not being around to see Dylan do everything in his life.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by dman

I know I need to, I quit drinking more as a "I'll show the people that think I can't!". I just need to take the same attitude and quit. I flinch at the thought of not being around to see Dylan do everything in his life.

Hey Daren,

You gotta swing things around. Start up with the drinking (in moderation, of course) and definitely QUIT with the puff puff!!

Okay, I love Cognac and could talk about it all day, but seriously this thread is now about Daren.......

Daren, my father died of a heart attack (actually mutiple heart attacks) when I was only 17 years old - it was not easy. My mother died of lung cancer that spread to her bones not that long ago. He was still a smoker when he died, and she had quit 25 years ago. Sooner or later it will catch up with you - trust me.

Chewing is one nasty habit - how about this for a solution - you can only chew if you swallow? Sound good?

[dman]

Originally Posted by Avalon

Okay, I love Cognac and could talk about it all day, but seriously this thread is now about Daren.......

Daren, my father died of a heart attack (actually mutiple heart attacks) when I was only 17 years old - it was not easy. My mother died of lung cancer that spread to her bones not that long ago. He was still a smoker when he died, and she had quit 25 years ago. Sooner or later it will catch up with you - trust me.

Chewing is one nasty habit - how about this for a solution - you can only chew if you swallow? Sound good?

Hey Al, I am sorry to hear about your folks, that really sucks. Cancer is in my family as well. As you know about what my sister is currently going through. I think you boys are really convincing me.

BTW/ when I am in the shop I do swallow my dip the whole time, sometimes for up to an hour. That is worse than smoking ten cigarettes at one time. :-(

[JJ Irani]

Daren, in all seriousness, you are only 30 and have a FULL life ahead of you. Just do it. QUIT for your own sake, for Andie's sake and definitely for little Dylan's sake.....and also for the sake of all these tossers who love you, including this bald tosser from downunder.

JJ (Note: no smiley, so I'm dead serious!!)

[padi56]

Darren dip please explain is that taking snuff,or like the old coal miners years ago chewing tobacco?.By the way my Father a heavy smoker, and a coal miner died when he was only 54. Quit now Darren it will
take approx 5 years to get the effects of smoking out of your system after
you stop.