Simply...The Wine Thread

[RHIII]

Originally Posted by James K

Tonight's adventure, second dab into a bourdoux style wine. Was great but I think I still prefer the cab next to it. (Brought our own bottles tonight)

couple of great selections right there!! How long did it take for the Dominus to open up?


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[James K]

Originally Posted by RHIII

couple of great selections right there!! How long did it take for the Dominus to open up?


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We gave it 2 1/4 hours before even touching it. It was really smooth too. 1st hour in the bottle then decanter the rest of the time.

[RHIII]

Originally Posted by James K

We gave it 2 1/4 hours before even touching it. It was really smooth too. 1st hour in the bottle then decanter the rest of the time.

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[offrdmania]

Bottled the Port today, it is absolutely delicious! 52% Zinfandel, 17.5% Tinta Cao, 17.5% Touriga, 8.8% Sousao and 4.2% Alvarelhao.
18.1% Alc/Vol

[incontrol]

We drank this spectacular wine last night. It was really delicious.




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[RHIII]

Originally Posted by incontrol

We drank this spectacular wine last night. It was really delicious.




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One of my favorite Italians right there my friend!!


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[BNA/LION]

Brought this bottle to enjoy with 520Matt at dinner on Wednesday evening.

I have a few bottles left that need to sleep.

[emersm]

A follow-up to the matinee performance of “Love Never Dies”



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[incontrol]

Originally Posted by RHIII

One of my favorite Italians right there my friend!!


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Thanks! It was my first bottle but not my last.


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[RHIII]

Originally Posted by incontrol

Thanks! It was my first bottle but not my last.


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Wow!! Great!! No doubt — that’s one that will keep you coming back for sure. Ornellaia is another.

The older the vintage the better they are!


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[wantonebad]

Last night's bottle and this week's acquisition





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[fusionstorm]

Nice pickup on the P2!!!

[incontrol]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

Last night's bottle and this week's acquisition





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Great selections!


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[incontrol]

Originally Posted by RHIII

Wow!! Great!! No doubt — that’s one that will keep you coming back for sure. Ornellaia is another.

The older the vintage the better they are!


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Oh yes, I love that too!


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[austinp]

Enjoyed this tonight.

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[BNA/LION]

Fortress Cabernet Sauvignon 2013

Enjoyable cab for a $22 bottle.

Winemaker Notes
Fortress Cabernet Sauvignon delivers aromas of dark fruit, mocha and baking spices on the nose. The palate exhibits well integrated tannins that complement the subtle earthy flavors of pomegranate, blackberry and sweet pipe tobacco. With a rich, opulent mouth feel, Fortress is an approachable wine with a silky, lush finish.

Critical Acclaim Wine Enthusiast
WE | 91

This wine is a steal for its quality—well-rounded, expressive and complemented with additions of Petit Verdot, Cabernet Franc, Syrah and Merlot. Cherry and vanilla flavors predominate, accented with cedar and tobacco, the texture remaining soft and smooth. Editors' Choice.

[mjclark32]

Long story short-
Father in law was talking with a friend about wine, he put him in touch with another friend that has some wine for sale. He said he’s open to fair offers. I don’t have the budget he does, but we talk wine etc so he asked me what I thought would be a fair offer. This is way out of my league, but in the realm of some of you guys.
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks
I’m assuming they’re all 750ml bottles

1991 Caymus Special Selection
1987 Opus One
1990 Robert Mondavi Reserve

[fkim011]

A 1985 Opus one is selling for $300.

http://www.klwines.com/p/i?i=1076673

[mjclark32]

Originally Posted by fkim011

A 1985 Opus one is selling for $300.

http://www.klwines.com/p/i?i=1076673

Sorry, I should say I did a google search and have the results. I just assumed there may be better info available here.

[RHIII]

Originally Posted by mjclark32

Long story short-
Father in law was talking with a friend about wine, he put him in touch with another friend that has some wine for sale. He said he’s open to fair offers. I don’t have the budget he does, but we talk wine etc so he asked me what I thought would be a fair offer. This is way out of my league, but in the realm of some of you guys.
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks
I’m assuming they’re all 750ml bottles

1991 Caymus Special Selection
1987 Opus One
1990 Robert Mondavi Reserve

Hey my friend — those are some very nice selections from an era in Napa that continues to be my favorite.

Stylistically these wines are going to be more of the original image in which these wines were created. For example - the Caymus is going to be much more old world - vs completely fruit forward as it is today.

87 was a spectacular vintage in Napa - and yielded some very wonderful wines with significant longevity in the cellar — 87 Montelena Estate remains one of my favorites.

Having said that provenance is truly the key here in determining value as these vintages are definitely on the decline now- however many of them still very beautiful representations of a time and style now long gone. What was the original source? How have they been cellared? Have they been moved a lot?

Older vintage wine purchases can be very very tricky — a lot like vintage watches in a way — for California wines — to me the big question is storage — for French wines it’s more the provenance.

For me — the majority of my older vintage Napa’s have all been sourced directly from the wineries...

The beautiful thing about today — is that you can pull out a Coravin and have a look under the hood - if one was willing.

If it were me — just going with my gut - if I got a call out of the blue - sight unseen — I’m not even sure I could honestly make an offer. With more details into some of the aforementioned areas — and I was amenable - I’d probably be in the neighborhood of a $500-$700 offer — to assume the ‘risk’ if you will.

Just my .02


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[mjclark32]

Originally Posted by RHIII

Hey my friend — those are some very nice selections from an era in Napa that continues to be my favorite.

Stylistically these wines are going to be more of the original image in which these wines were created. For example - the Caymus is going to be much more old world - vs completely fruit forward as it is today.

87 was a spectacular vintage in Napa - and yielded some very wonderful wines with significant longevity in the cellar — 87 Montelena Estate remains one of my favorites.

Having said that provenance is truly the key here in determining value as these vintages are definitely on the decline now- however many of them still very beautiful representations of a time and style now long gone. What was the original source? How have they been cellared? Have they been moved a lot?

Older vintage wine purchases can be very very tricky — a lot like vintage watches in a way — for California wines — to me the big question is storage — for French wines it’s more the provenance.

For me — the majority of my older vintage Napa’s have all been sourced directly from the wineries...

The beautiful thing about today — is that you can pull out a Coravin and have a look under the hood - if one was willing.

If it were me — just going with my gut - if I got a call out of the blue - sight unseen — I’m not even sure I could honestly make an offer. With more details into some of the aforementioned areas — and I was amenable - I’d probably be in the neighborhood of a $500-$700 offer — to assume the ‘risk’ if you will.

Just my .02


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My man. Thank you for taking the time to type this all out, it is very much appreciated.
I will pass this along, hopefully we can get some extra clarity on the storage and sourcing.
I owe you a drink!
Again, thank you

[RHIII]

Originally Posted by mjclark32

My man. Thank you for taking the time to type this all out, it is very much appreciated.

I will pass this along, hopefully we can get some extra clarity on the storage and sourcing.

I owe you a drink!

Again, thank you

anytime my friend. Happy to do it.

Absolutely on the drink — we need to put together a TRF Wine club


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[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by fkim011

A 1985 Opus one is selling for $300.

http://www.klwines.com/p/i?i=1076673

82 and 83 were major El Nino years in California seeing some of the heaviest rainfall totals in decades so the 85 may be bland on big flavor if they were using those water saturated berries. Some of the scores in seeing on the 85 are between 88-90 whereas a 1987 is scoring between 93-95.

[wantonebad]

Many people debate the use of www.wine-searcher.com for prices and do take their average price index with a grain of salt. There can be too many high-price retailers or at the opposite end, auction-housing dumping's of certain bottles can skew those prices. But if you look at the low retail price available for that bottle you at least have a ball park of the price and a starting point providing everything with storage and provenance is kosher.

[wantonebad]

Must be all the celebrating done over the holidays cause I don't remember the last time I was buying this much champagne... More on the way too!

And this guy spells his name the correct way LOL

[encarter13]

Originally Posted by RHIII

anytime my friend. Happy to do it.

Absolutely on the drink — we need to put together a TRF Wine club


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TRF Wine Club

[RHIII]

Originally Posted by encarter13

TRF Wine Club

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[incontrol]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

Must be all the celebrating done over the holidays cause I don't remember the last time I was buying this much champagne... More on the way too!

And this guy spells his name the correct way LOL

Haha! Same has happened to me. This one should be very good!


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[offrdmania]

Look what I just found in my fathers library. He won double gold with it in 1985. He has a case of it left. I am going to crack it open this weekend and see how it held up. I hope 35 years has been good to it.

[kellyon]

I prefer whites and rose's. Winking Owl in by far my favorite brand because it's a $3 bottle that taste on par with a lot of $20+ bottled I've had. I like their chardonney and white zinfindel.

I don't normally drink reds because I've gotten some mean headaches from just one glass (I have migraines, and think the red wine is a mild trigger). that said, Winking Owl's Merlot is really tasty.

Winking Owl is the Aldi store brand.