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tigey · 21 April 2018, 05:06 AM

Does the dial on this look right to you?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-SUBMA...0AAOSwhDdXDvre

jbarolex · 21 April 2018, 05:55 AM

2 dials ?? 1 with t<25, 1 swiss made ??..

GLADIATOR · 21 April 2018, 09:12 AM

Two different watches??

offrdmania · 21 April 2018, 09:24 AM

Looks like the seller may be using random pics. They may be like Bobs Watches and use stock photos because they have multiples in stock

freefly · 21 April 2018, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigey

Does the dial on this look right to you?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-SUBMA...0AAOSwhDdXDvre

Pics are of two different watches. Both with fake dials and aftermarket bezels. Probably mixed up pics with one of their previous "creations" of the same type. The fine print in the listing mentions both the dial and bezel being aftermarket. However, the dial is certainly counterfeit. It is very common for some eBay "grey dealers" to "upgrade" genuine watches with parts to make them appear as more desirable/expensive models. In this case it's turning a 116610 into a 116619 "Smurf" clone.
Other common bastardizations include turning a 16610 into a 16610LV clone, etc. or simply swapping similar parts with counterfeit/aftermarket garbage and then selling the genuine parts separately.

tigey · 21 April 2018, 11:44 AM

So basically he put a counterfeit dial and shitty Chinese bezel on a 116610 LN, is calling it a Smurf, sold the authentic dial and bezel, and now wants $9000 for it?

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freefly · 21 April 2018, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigey

So basically he put a counterfeit dial and shitty Chinese bezel on a 116610 LN, is calling it a Smurf, sold the authentic dial and bezel, and now wants $9000 for it?

LOL, I think that about sums it up. Just as I suspected, they've got a Hulk clone amongst their other hideous "creations" as well: https://www.ebay.com/itm/282932326743
Must be a pretty profitable scheme, as they have well over 600 Rolexes listed and most have counterfeit dials and other junk parts.

tigey · 22 April 2018, 07:08 AM

I messaged them. He said it was a authentic Rolex dial that has been refinished. Yeah right!

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PRSWILL · 25 April 2018, 06:28 AM

why is this still up???

GLADIATOR · 25 April 2018, 06:30 AM

Anyone report it?

usrudiver932 · 25 April 2018, 09:38 AM

Smurf aren’t they white gold and not stainless. Or am I wrong

Bigblu10 · 25 April 2018, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usrudiver932

Smurf aren’t they white gold and not stainless. Or am I wrong

Yes the real deal are solid white gold. This thing is just a mock up. A stainless sub with fake dial and fake bezel insert. The dial looks like junk, lume plots and surrounds are off, printing and font are crap. Waste of money buying this crap,IMO. The Hulk mock up is another botch job.

westsiderkg · 26 April 2018, 03:55 AM

why bother with ebay?

NKflyer · 26 April 2018, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigey

So basically he put a counterfeit dial and shitty Chinese bezel on a 116610 LN, is calling it a Smurf, sold the authentic dial and bezel, and now wants $9000 for it?

This same guy used to sell alot of the original removed parts right here on TRF's classified section. It was actually a good resource lol! He got banned a while back... I have no idea why.

CorradoBrit · 26 April 2018, 05:29 AM

How do they get away with that? "Custom/aftermarket" with Rolex brand name printed is counterfeit.

cajunron · 30 April 2018, 06:02 AM

Limited Watches. They sell some of the most garish 'custom' dials and bezels on authentic Rolex watches and then charge a premium. I would stay away from this seller.

21 April 2018, 05:06 AM	#1
tigey "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Belize Posts: 271	116619 Smurf with T<25 dial Does the dial on this look right to you? https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-SUBMA...0AAOSwhDdXDvre

21 April 2018, 09:12 AM	#3
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Two different watches?? __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

21 April 2018, 09:24 AM	#4
offrdmania 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,996	Looks like the seller may be using random pics. They may be like Bobs Watches and use stock photos because they have multiples in stock __________________ TRF Member 11738

25 April 2018, 06:30 AM	#10
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Anyone report it? __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

30 April 2018, 06:02 AM	#16
cajunron 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,872	Limited Watches. They sell some of the most garish 'custom' dials and bezels on authentic Rolex watches and then charge a premium. I would stay away from this seller. __________________

21 April 2018, 05:55 AM	#2
jbarolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: jesper Location: denmark Watch: rolex Posts: 77	2 dials ?? 1 with t<25, 1 swiss made ??..

21 April 2018, 11:44 AM	#6
tigey "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Belize Posts: 271	So basically he put a counterfeit dial and shitty Chinese bezel on a 116610 LN, is calling it a Smurf, sold the authentic dial and bezel, and now wants $9000 for it? Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

22 April 2018, 07:08 AM	#8
tigey "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Belize Posts: 271	I messaged them. He said it was a authentic Rolex dial that has been refinished. Yeah right! Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

25 April 2018, 06:28 AM	#9
PRSWILL "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 266	why is this still up???

25 April 2018, 09:38 AM	#11
usrudiver932 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Larry B Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: 116610LN Posts: 207	Smurf aren’t they white gold and not stainless. Or am I wrong

26 April 2018, 03:55 AM	#13
westsiderkg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Pittsburgh Dad Location: Pittsburgh, PA Watch: '66 Submariner Posts: 1,121	why bother with ebay?

26 April 2018, 05:29 AM	#15
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	How do they get away with that? "Custom/aftermarket" with Rolex brand name printed is counterfeit.

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