Do the waiting lists really get sent to Rolex? Hmmm

[Ped22]

Managed to get myself on the waiting list for a BLNR with a prominent AD in the UK and was pleasantly surprised by how helpful they were with information.

I’ve got an email confirmation that I’ve been added to the list which I hope is a good thing as if I call in a year or two they can’t pretend I’d never been added.

My question though is do they inform Rolex of who is in their waiting list? That’s what the email confirmation says but I don’t see why Rolex would need to know...? Rolex know there is more demand than supply so don’t see what benefit there is to the AD, Rolex or the customer?

[tyler1980]

from what i gather sometimes. There is a blacklist 100% for known flippers and AD's do check sometimes. Who they check with i have no idea but clearly they have run names in the past and someone is holding this information.

I know there is a member here for sure who isnt a flipper but who couldn't buy a white daytona because he already had a black one. The AD didn't know that but someone did as they checked and came back and said no, we cant sell it to you. So the buyers purchase history is known as it was not the same AD for both transactions.

[037]

No, ADs are the only ones who care about lists. If you call Rolex they should tell you to check with your AD on the status of your order.

In fact, you might want to call Rolex UK just for fun. Let us know what they say.

[coolaking]

I have an email saying I was number 11 on the list at WOS in London from 2016 - still not heard anything - I wouldnt hold your breath...

[Zakalwe]

So it seems that on purchase of SS sports pieces, AD’s are sending buyers’ details to Rolex. My understanding is that if/when you get to the top of the list your details will be cross-checked to make sure that you aren’t listed as having bought the same piece previously. If you check out, you’ll get the call.

[kauffee]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

I know there is a member here for sure who isnt a flipper but who couldn't buy a white daytona because he already had a black one. The AD didn't know that but someone did as they checked and came back and said no, we cant sell it to you. So the buyers purchase history is known as it was not the same AD for both transactions.

Except there are a number of members here who've gotten both white and black Daytonas from their ADs. From personal experience, when I bought my white Daytona the AD told me that if I didn't buy it they'd sell it to my father who bought a black one from them a month earlier. So there's definitely no official Rolex policy against buying multiple references.

[RHIII]

Who knows!!! - really. Up till now I would say no — (I know my ADs don’t - or haven’t yet) but I have a (shared) suspicion that Rolex is paying a little more attention to the BLRO releases than they have in the past...

Most of these ‘rules’ are AD specific. They like to push off ‘blame’ a or of times on Rolex ‘policy’ — but those (policies) are more like guidelines. Honestly it depends a lot on rapport - i.e. sticker removal, warranty cards held...multiple Daytona’s...all that business. Period.

Just my .02


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[jltait]

I've never been on one of these "lists", but yeah always thought of them as being rather informal. Basically which of the ad sales peoples' chums they call first in their rolodex. The squeaky wheel probably does not get the grease in this case.


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[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by kauffee

Except there are a number of members here who've gotten both white and black Daytonas from their ADs. From personal experience, when I bought my white Daytona the AD told me that if I didn't buy it they'd sell it to my father who bought a black one from them a month earlier. So there's definitely no official Rolex policy against buying multiple references.

UK is an entirely different world and that was where the question was about. People have had issues buying multiple references here for sure. How widespread i don't know, but it does happen.

Pretty sure your ADs in the US are not blacklisting flippers either. Here is isnt that unheard of.

[Ravager135]

I do not believe local ADs communicate waitlists to Rolex. My local AD is family owned. I am fortunate in that they have always been honest when it comes to waitlists and realistic timelines for difficult to get pieces. Their policy is simple: once you have purchased anything from them, they are willing to place you on waitlists for pieces. I bought a 116610LV from them back when all you had to do was call and ask if they had one in stock. When I came in I asked about the ceramic Daytona (which had just released at the time). The salesman told me that there was obviously a wait list, but he told me how often they tend to come in, what the length of the list was, and that many of his phone calls result in people declining so he moves through the list quickly. Again at the time he told me I'd be in the 20s on the list but that I could realistically have a Daytona within 6 months. He wasn't making promises, but he was honest and realistic. I respect that.

[MonsterSS]

Originally Posted by Ravager135

I do not believe local ADs communicate waitlists to Rolex. My local AD is family owned. I am fortunate in that they have always been honest when it comes to waitlists and realistic timelines for difficult to get pieces. Their policy is simple: once you have purchased anything from them, they are willing to place you on waitlists for pieces. I bought a 116610LV from them back when all you had to do was call and ask if they had one in stock. When I came in I asked about the ceramic Daytona (which had just released at the time). The salesman told me that there was obviously a wait list, but he told me how often they tend to come in, what the length of the list was, and that many of his phone calls result in people declining so he moves through the list quickly. Again at the time he told me I'd be in the 20s on the list but that I could realistically have a Daytona within 6 months. He wasn't making promises, but he was honest and realistic. I respect that.

I’d agree with that.

[alex_moreno111]

AD reference only.

[beshannon]

Sure they do

Then Rolex sells that data to Facebook and Google

[AK797]

UK AD might send your info to Rolex HQ and they can check if you are known to other ADs and what your buying patterns are, and thus can they decide if you are a flipper or genuine. They do all this Big Brother stuff now and why not? What the hell else they all got to do all day now as ADs here are always empty and the staff are now just applying to Love Island and the like all day long.

[037]

Call Rolex UK (+44 20 7024 7300) and ask if ADs share waiting lists with corporate. Anything short of that is just speculation.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by 037

Call Rolex UK (+44 20 7024 7300) and ask if ADs share waiting lists with corporate. Anything short of that is just speculation.

and im sure they are going to just divulge information because you ask? Not sure what that would actually accomplish

[kepler22]

As a matter of interest did they ask for a deposit. I understand the nearer you get to the front of the queue the more likely they are to ask for a deposit to confirm your commitment. Wouldn't have thought there was any other reason as they won't earn much interest on it in the UK. Lol.

[Ped22]

Makes sense if they send it so they can check against other records but strictly speaking I did not give them permission to pass my information so not great... I don’t actually mind whether they do or not because this will be my first Rolex so even if they do they won’t find my name anywhere

RE point on deposit - no I wasn’t asked for a payment but I wasn’t expecting to either given that their estimate of when I’d receive the watch has a range between 6 to 18 months

[037]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

and im sure they are going to just divulge information because you ask? Not sure what that would actually accomplish

On the flip side, unless you've actually called them, I don't see what it accomplishes to assume they won't answer the question I posed above. The alternative is unfounded speculation based on hearsay and rumor. Take your pick.

Perhaps Rolex UK is more clandestine than Rolex USA. I typically get straight answers when I make contact here in the US.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Sure they do

Then Rolex sells that data to Facebook and Google

[Applefloors]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

from what i gather sometimes. There is a blacklist 100% for known flippers and AD's do check sometimes. Who they check with i have no idea but clearly they have run names in the past and someone is holding this information.

I know there is a member here for sure who isnt a flipper but who couldn't buy a white daytona because he already had a black one. The AD didn't know that but someone did as they checked and came back and said no, we cant sell it to you. So the buyers purchase history is known as it was not the same AD for both transactions.

What dealer was that?/

[ap1]

I’d say no (U.S.)

[BadBoyR]

This is the general practice from the Aurum group. All past history is known and it filters out repeat offenders from buying the same watch from within the group.

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[Brownb2110]

Dealer let me try on an SD43 that was already spoken for. She showed me the “ziplock”that the casket came in from Rolex and it had the buyers name on it. She said it comes from a Rolex like that.....for what it’s worth.

[swils8610]

It’s an AD thing not a Rolex thing.


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