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Old 5 November 2018, 08:01 AM   #1
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Rolex 5508 James Bond

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Can you give me some opinions about this watch? Value?
Serial n 7640xx

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Old 5 November 2018, 08:17 AM   #2
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Old 5 November 2018, 01:32 PM   #3
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Looks like a replacement dial and hands. This James Bond went from Sean Connery to Roger Moore.
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Old 5 November 2018, 03:32 PM   #4
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at least it's not Pierce Brosnan!
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Old 5 November 2018, 08:04 PM   #5
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Looks like a replacement dial and hands. This James Bond went from Sean Connery to Roger Moore.
Why do you think it is a replacement dial? It just look like a tired swiss only original dial to me. Hands are later and the insert is from the 70’s.

Very hard to value this condition imho. 20 something perhaps. It is a hard sale.
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Old 5 November 2018, 09:26 PM   #6
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thanks!

Difficult sale for the kind of watch?


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Old 6 November 2018, 12:12 AM   #7
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Late 5508, Swiss at 6:00 Poor lighting with photo. A better scan would help in natural lighting.
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Old 6 November 2018, 02:48 AM   #8
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Why do you think it is a replacement dial? It just look like a tired swiss only original dial to me. Hands are later and the insert is from the 70’s.

Very hard to value this condition imho. 20 something perhaps. It is a hard sale.
The usual contrast of gilt and white script b/t the depth and others is not present that I can see and its swiss only so... I haven't seen one like this with all white script. Maybe I cant see it clearly. I was looking at these recently to buy and read quite a bit, seems like there is a later dial I'm not aware of?

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Old 6 November 2018, 04:19 AM   #9
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Old 6 November 2018, 04:24 AM   #10
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I got more informations from the seller.. the original dial was re printed by the previous owner... the seller installed this second dial... probably it is more a 70’ than a 1962 dial...


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Old 6 November 2018, 04:52 AM   #11
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The usual contrast of gilt and white script b/t the depth and others is not present that I can see and its swiss only so... I haven't seen one like this with all white script. Maybe I cant see it clearly. I was looking at these recently to buy and read quite a bit, seems like there is a later dial I'm not aware of?

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It is gilt. Just aging, damage and the pic that makes it look non-gilt. I do not think it is redone. Even if now stated. Looks very 1962 to me.
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Old 6 November 2018, 04:55 AM   #12
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no no..right..the dial in the pics isn’t re done.


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Old 6 November 2018, 05:21 AM   #13
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It is gilt. Just aging, damage and the pic that makes it look non-gilt. I do not think it is redone. Even if now stated. Looks very 1962 to me.
Agreed. This new pic is much better. Thanks
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Old 6 November 2018, 05:28 AM   #14
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20000 €... can be a right price? or is too much? only watch...no box and paper.


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Old 6 November 2018, 05:31 AM   #15
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Only you can decide if you like it at that price range. It will never be an easy sale in that condition. Personally I prefer gilt dials to be glossy and perfect but then the price is more than double.
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Old 6 November 2018, 05:36 AM   #16
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I agree with you..thanks


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Old 6 November 2018, 05:53 AM   #17
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What is the serial # range?
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Old 6 November 2018, 07:35 AM   #18
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I think the dial is original but the surface may have been touched up or a repair attempted on the finish. Note that the = symbol is missing between 100m and 330 ft. Contrary to popular myth, most 5508’s left Rolex factory with the shorter minute hand that does not quite reach the outer ring.
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Old 6 November 2018, 07:54 AM   #19
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7640xx


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Old 6 November 2018, 08:14 AM   #20
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Dial looks rough. Most likely sealed at some point in the past. The meters/ft is missing the marking as pointed out. Hands are service replacements but still match nicely. Original brass alloy bezel with service replacement insert (mk3)

There is rust I can see. It's located on the inside of the crystal retaining ring, water/moisture tends to get trapped there if the ring is stretched. The retaining rings on these early subs are very thin and fragile. I would recommend having the piece serviced soon.

The retaining ring should be soaked in a solution to remove the rust, which suspends further deterioration of the metal.

I think once some money is put into the watch, along with some love, it would be a nice preserved piece. It has it's shortcomings in the current condition, but it is far from worthless.

Just need to make it a little more attractive again and mechanically sound. Has good bones.

in the current condition, I would say maybe (13k to 15k USD) range would be fair. At least that's what I would pay up to if I really wanted it.

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Old 7 November 2018, 04:58 AM   #22
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Old 7 November 2018, 08:54 AM   #23
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Wow! You popped the dial right out!
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