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f16570 · 20 January 2008, 06:37 AM

As usual Rolex are keeping us all up to date with their latest updates and inovations via theor web-site

Ironstark · 20 January 2008, 06:58 AM

They don`t always keep their affillates informed!!!

f16570 · 20 January 2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironstark

They don`t always keep their affillates informed!!!

Do they keep anybody informed?

BiG JeEzY · 20 January 2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironstark

From avaliable information, it would appear that any 16570 EXP II produced after April 2007 and with the ingraved reflector ring around the dial edge should have a 3186 movement fitted.

Wow, that is some incredible news! Unbelievable.

CPCC · 20 January 2008, 03:32 PM

Come on, will someone open theirs up already. I am dying to find out. Please!

alex_75 · 7 February 2008, 07:14 AM

updates?

oldrolex · 7 February 2008, 07:38 AM

someone please open

errolhiggins · 7 February 2008, 08:19 AM

I posted about this recently. Which means that my GMT II has even more chance of the new movement.

904L_addict · 7 February 2008, 08:21 AM

only one way to find out

scottschoe · 6 March 2008, 08:05 AM

PROOF: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...1175&rid=26403

(sorry if someone mentioned this before..took a little break from trf)

jimbo1mcm · 6 March 2008, 07:28 PM

If the hybrid pepsi with the 3186 movement hits a RSC, they will probably remove it and insert a 3185!!!!!LOL

sleedawg · 8 March 2008, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo1mcm

If the hybrid pepsi with the 3186 movement hits a RSC, they will probably remove it and insert a 3185!!!!!LOL

Pretty funny. I was actually at the SF RSC today to pick up my sub from service when the lead watchmaker was looking at a customer's 16710 Pepsi with the serial number starting with M3-----. It had the 3186 movement and the "stick" configuration dial. It was the first 3186 movement the watchmaker has seen. Funny enough, he's leaving this Sunday for Lilitz to get training on this movement.

charlie7777 · 22 January 2009, 01:20 PM

rolex gmt11 z9 have3186

Bisquitlips · 22 January 2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Felly Jr.

Wow, four movements in one sentence! I think I need to head for the Latrine.

.................

Same idea here. I now think I need to have a movement!

G.J · 22 January 2009, 04:01 PM

Hmm, I have a Z serie GMT II as well...

Good news is that 4 vintage Omega's are ready for pick up @ my watchmaker, so I think I let him open the caseback of my Rolex..

jtrader · 22 January 2009, 04:23 PM

From what i've been told or heard by some AD's. That Rolex released a small amount of Z series GMT's with the 3186 movements in them to test them out before they released the M GMT II discontinued line.

They did this mainly to see if there would be any problems with the new movement in the old 16710's.

So I would imagine for those few people who do have a Z GMT II with the 3186 wouldn't know unless they were either told up front or figured it out on there own. The way you can find out without taking the back off is Just do a "wiggle" test.

The fact that the M series GMT II has the 3186, I thought was pretty much common knowledge around here. But I quess the Z series is a different story.

Omega_Precision · 22 January 2009, 04:33 PM

The Daytona's were the first to have the blue spring or non-magnetic and it would be cool the GMT were incorporated with it before discontinuation.

2careless · 22 January 2009, 04:53 PM

Hmm, dragging out a one year old thread... yawn... :-)

TheVTCGuy · 22 January 2009, 05:51 PM

I am so confused!!!!!!!

What my AD told me, was that there was a limited number of 3186s in the coke or pepsi GMTs, but THOSE were the ones with the stick dials instead of the Roman numerals for the "2" after "GMT" Is this wrong?

yannis · 22 January 2009, 06:06 PM

I think you are right Paul!

2careless · 22 January 2009, 07:06 PM

Suggest reading: http://www.minus4plus6.com/paracromblu16710.htm

Tools · 23 January 2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

I am so confused!!!!!!!

What my AD told me, was that there was a limited number of 3186s in the coke or pepsi GMTs, but THOSE were the ones with the stick dials instead of the Roman numerals for the "2" after "GMT" Is this wrong?

Yes, that is wrong..... there are a couple of dial variations with the 3186.

This thread is over a year old guys.......... It was started back when Z and M were both being produced.......As a matter of fact, Z is still being seen being received at AD's, so it is likely that "Z", "M", and "V" are all being produced at the same time.....

It has been confirmed for months that some Z GMT's and some M GMT's have a 3186 in them...... Same for the EXP II.

Actually, that is the scary part since some want to spend extra for a GMT with a 3186...... There are probably some unscrupulous businessmen who are buying GMT's and EXP II's and swapping the movements ...there is no way to know different..

WatchSmith · 23 January 2009, 03:31 AM

Are there any known examples of GMTII ceramic bezel watches with anything other than a 3186 movement?

scottschoe · 12 February 2009, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Triplock

Are there any known examples of GMTII ceramic bezel watches with anything other than a 3186 movement?

None to my knowledge. Never figured this thread would still be on the front page.

jdc · 12 February 2009, 12:23 AM

As has been said many time by others collectors have gone for particular models or dials not movements. The stick dial is not unique to the 3186.

Just out of interest ten years down the line if the mainspring goes in an old 3185 would it be replaced with the newer blue mainspring? If so maybe the older spring will be more desirable

Either way the spring/movement is not the most desirable feature on a collectors lists.

20 January 2008, 06:37 AM	#31
f16570 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: F Location: Scotland Watch: Exp II White Face Posts: 4,272	As usual Rolex are keeping us all up to date with their latest updates and inovations via theor web-site __________________ Why have what's new when you have what's best. f

20 January 2008, 03:32 PM	#35
CPCC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: USA Posts: 1,857	Come on, will someone open theirs up already. I am dying to find out. Please! __________________

7 February 2008, 08:19 AM	#38
errolhiggins "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Errol Higgins Location: California Watch: Daytona Posts: 76	GMT II old style, M serial I posted about this recently. Which means that my GMT II has even more chance of the new movement.

6 March 2008, 08:05 AM	#40
scottschoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CA Posts: 3,295	PROOF: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...1175&rid=26403 (sorry if someone mentioned this before..took a little break from trf) __________________ __________________

6 March 2008, 07:28 PM	#41
jimbo1mcm Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: connecticut, usa Watch: New GMT2C Posts: 320	Rsc !!!!! If the hybrid pepsi with the 3186 movement hits a RSC, they will probably remove it and insert a 3185!!!!!LOL

20 January 2008, 06:58 AM	#32
Ironstark TechXpert Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rolex world Watch: SS/W Skydweller Posts: 527	They don`t always keep their affillates informed!!!

7 February 2008, 07:14 AM	#36
alex_75 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 19	updates?

7 February 2008, 07:38 AM	#37
oldrolex Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Steve Location: WI, USA Watch: DD Wanted Posts: 580	someone please open

7 February 2008, 08:21 AM	#39
904L_addict Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Steven Location: the OC Watch: SS GMT II-C, SD Posts: 186	only one way to find out

22 January 2009, 01:20 PM	#43
charlie7777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: lakewood Posts: 9	rolex gmt11 z9 have3186

22 January 2009, 04:01 PM	#45
G.J "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 2,094	Hmm, I have a Z serie GMT II as well... Good news is that 4 vintage Omega's are ready for pick up @ my watchmaker, so I think I let him open the caseback of my Rolex.. __________________ In Memory of JJ Irani

22 January 2009, 04:23 PM	#46
jtrader "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Jon Location: seattle Watch: Rolex GMT BLNR Posts: 301	From what i've been told or heard by some AD's. That Rolex released a small amount of Z series GMT's with the 3186 movements in them to test them out before they released the M GMT II discontinued line. They did this mainly to see if there would be any problems with the new movement in the old 16710's. So I would imagine for those few people who do have a Z GMT II with the 3186 wouldn't know unless they were either told up front or figured it out on there own. The way you can find out without taking the back off is Just do a "wiggle" test. The fact that the M series GMT II has the 3186, I thought was pretty much common knowledge around here. But I quess the Z series is a different story.

22 January 2009, 04:33 PM	#47
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	The Daytona's were the first to have the blue spring or non-magnetic and it would be cool the GMT were incorporated with it before discontinuation.

22 January 2009, 04:53 PM	#48
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Hmm, dragging out a one year old thread... yawn... :-)

22 January 2009, 05:51 PM	#49
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	I am so confused!!!!!!! What my AD told me, was that there was a limited number of 3186s in the coke or pepsi GMTs, but THOSE were the ones with the stick dials instead of the Roman numerals for the "2" after "GMT" Is this wrong?

22 January 2009, 06:06 PM	#50
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	I think you are right Paul! __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

22 January 2009, 07:06 PM	#51
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Suggest reading: http://www.minus4plus6.com/paracromblu16710.htm

23 January 2009, 03:31 AM	#53
WatchSmith 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 702	Are there any known examples of GMTII ceramic bezel watches with anything other than a 3186 movement?

12 February 2009, 12:23 AM	#55
jdc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: UK Posts: 7,023	As has been said many time by others collectors have gone for particular models or dials not movements. The stick dial is not unique to the 3186. Just out of interest ten years down the line if the mainspring goes in an old 3185 would it be replaced with the newer blue mainspring? If so maybe the older spring will be more desirable Either way the spring/movement is not the most desirable feature on a collectors lists.

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