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Yes, no issues | 1,059 | 69.67% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine | 62 | 4.08% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) | 399 | 26.25% | |
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23 March 2023, 02:23 AM | #3691 |
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Significant caliber improvement after service; especially visible in the linearity of the updated isochronism graph (right plot). |
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23 March 2023, 05:46 AM | #3693 |
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23 March 2023, 08:36 PM | #3694 |
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Update
Some positive news.
I was an early contributor to this issue with my 2018 BLRO. It was serviced in Feb 21 (more than 2 years ago) and I have been using it on and off since then. I did a comparison in August 22 and it seemed to not have developed this issue at that stage. I then went through a Daytona wearing phase and neglected the BLRO for a while. I have been wearing it a bit recently and I am relieved to say that it is not showing signs of this problem. While I have not done a set of readings over the power reserve range since Aug 22, I have been alternating it with my 116600 and it has been maintaining accuracy and some quick measurements are showing amplitude well above 200, small beat errors and around 1-2 sec per day which is confirmed with observations compared to an atomic clock. I will take some more measurements to see what is happening over a full reserve, but it seems to be performing well now. Holding thumbs...
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Thanks for joining again with an update and good news. Your 126710BLRO (3285) runs fine 25 months after repair. I remember you bought it in June 2018, now 3 months guarantee left, right? My 126600 (3235) needed a second repair 35 months after the first repair. I see you also own a 126600? Time to upgrade from your iPhone app and get some reliable timegrapher (~200 $) data measured before the end of the BLRO warranty? |
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24 March 2023, 06:21 AM | #3696 |
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Slightly off topic but there is a funny screen shot from Rolex marketing “defying excellence”
I do not know how to attach photos in this forum. |
24 March 2023, 06:31 AM | #3697 |
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24 March 2023, 07:45 AM | #3699 | |
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24 March 2023, 02:57 PM | #3703 |
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Looks straight forward to me Douglas but what is the problem with these movements?
Do we need any more graphs to confirm an issue?
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25 March 2023, 02:01 AM | #3704 |
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Amazing how poorly the marketing team translated.
I feel the amplitude to timing graph is interesting. All my healthy watches do the opposite. Of course we don’t fully know the root cause. None of us are watch engineers. Archer from the other forum simply said design issue. This makes sense as per what Bas has reported. Full service and still low amp for some of the movements. |
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25 March 2023, 02:14 AM | #3706 |
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Hello Saxo do you have a power reserve x timing graph of a healthy 31xx?
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25 March 2023, 02:20 AM | #3708 |
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As the pr runs lower and amp decreases my timing gets a little bit quicker. Repeat measure every 12 hours using watch tracker with watch left dial up static.
Right at the end then it goes very slow but only right at the end of the pr. My problematic dj did very similar to your graphs. Timing slower and slower as pr runs out from full wind. |
25 March 2023, 02:45 AM | #3709 | |
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What you describe I also observe for all watches that are regulated with a positive rate in dial up position. The watch continuously gains time because it always remains in DU. When the power reserve gets very low then the caliber slows down as you describe. I posted an example for a 3235 long time ago in this thread. |
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25 March 2023, 03:07 AM | #3710 |
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@Seo I just found the 'old' graph ...
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25 March 2023, 04:09 AM | #3711 |
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It does not. The 22xx is generally a fine movement, especially the 2236 with Si hairpspring and more power reserve.
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25 March 2023, 04:22 AM | #3712 |
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For Saxo, Bas, Charles and all the other "experts" on this thread. I appreciate your efforts and thank you. Saw this cartoon and thought it was good for a laugh for all of us.
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The house is on fire. The fire department has been called. While they are finishing their dinners and trying to figure out where they stored the hoses we're going to deploy thermocouples around the house to see if the flames are, in fact, causing harmful levels of heat. Will have to get back to you on whether or not peak data has been achieved yet. Come to think of it, we might actually need more data to answer that. Hope that helps!
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25 March 2023, 06:11 AM | #3714 | |
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The second 24 hour period appear to have a faster rate not just overall timing. |
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Let's hope you are right. My wife's 10 month old OP with 22xx just came back from Rolex factory service after 2+ months. It had super low amplitude and was running very erratically. Let's hope it is fixed for good.
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I have nice graphs also for this effect. |
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Hopefully the issue will not appear again. |
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25 March 2023, 11:23 PM | #3720 |
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2022 226570 32xx Data
Stumbled across this thread randomly and thought I'd share my recent data about my 226570 Explorer II with the 3285 movement. Purchased in April 2022, I haven't noticed too much out of spec with regards to gaining/losing time. It has been around -1 second per day and kept on a winder when not being worn.
The data was collected over the last 4 days starting with a full wind and measurements taken on a Weishi 1900 timegrapher, lift angle set at 53, about every 24 hours. During the measurement period when the watch was not on the timegrapher, it was left dial up. Not sure if this data is indicative of a good or bad movement but just another set for folks to take a look at. Posting as a screen capture since there isn't a good way to insert a chart. |
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