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Old 25 December 2009, 02:41 AM   #31
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Who the heck knows... It does make sense that the SS Sub gets an update. Maybe Rolex feels that selling that in "volume" will help drag us out of the recession
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Old 25 December 2009, 02:42 AM   #32
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Supercase are the thicker lugs and maxi dial are the dials with larger markers and hands.

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Does anyone have a comparison photo of supercase, maxi dial watch to a non-supercase maxi dial watch...

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Old 25 December 2009, 02:51 AM   #33
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Does anyone have a comparison photo of supercase, maxi dial watch to a non-supercase maxi dial watch...

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Try using the advanced search function. There are a ton of those pics on here.
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Old 25 December 2009, 02:54 AM   #34
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My guess is physically it will be identical to the GMT II C. I just hope the center links are not polished but I think they will be.

The anticipation for Basel 2010....................
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Old 25 December 2009, 03:45 AM   #35
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Does anyone have a comparison photo of supercase, maxi dial watch to a non-supercase maxi dial watch...

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Here ya go, buddy......on the left you have the older 16613 with standard dial, and on the right is the newer TT Blue Sub with the thicker lugs and larger markers and hands (Maxi dial)!!

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Old 25 December 2009, 04:10 AM   #36
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Because Rolex stated the SS would come out in 2010 to James Dowling at his meeting with them at Basel 2009?

Seems like decent evidence.

See James's report in the Basel section on that other watch forum.
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Old 25 December 2009, 04:15 AM   #37
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Thanks JJ

Thanks JJ...You the man
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Old 25 December 2009, 04:17 AM   #38
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You're welcome, Joe. Of course, there is a price difference of about $2K between the 2 models, the newer one being a bit more expensive.

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Old 25 December 2009, 04:27 AM   #39
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Here is James's Quote - What do ya think?

"Confirmed by Rolex in person to me Dec 12, 2009 - 02:43 AM

Hi All;

At last year's Basel Fair, a senior Rolex official replied to my direct question as to when the all steel ceramic bezel version would be available, he told me that it would be in the windows of their Basel stand 'Next Year'; in other words in a little over 4 months.

He declined to answer the question as to whether the current models would be discontinued at that time, I expect that question to be answered at the show.

Good Luck
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Guys, guys.............

Sorry for not being all that optimistic........but what makes any of you so sure that Rolex is in fact going to come out with a new SS Ceramic Sub in 2010?

Some of you could be in for a mighty big disappointment if nothing happens!!

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Old 25 December 2009, 04:54 AM   #40
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so im confused... What serial number is the current sub non date?
v series
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Old 25 December 2009, 06:52 AM   #41
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I would prefer they leave the SS as is and not release a new version if they intend to foul it up with PCL.

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I support PCL new submariner . look more bling ..PCL is good
I do not. It won't be a Submariner you will be supporting, it will be a piece of glossy jewlery and no longer a divers watch.

It will look foul and wrong.
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Old 25 December 2009, 09:17 AM   #42
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Oh for a cobalt maxi-dial and glidelock.....A flat baby blue dial is very unfortunate indeed
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Old 25 December 2009, 09:24 AM   #43
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I would prefer they leave the SS as is and not release a new version if they intend to foul it up with PCL.



I do not. It won't be a Submariner you will be supporting, it will be a piece of glossy jewlery and no longer a divers watch.

It will look foul and wrong.
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Old 25 December 2009, 09:56 AM   #44
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Have they? I don't think so. Quite a few V-series flying around!!
I was in my AD this week and he said that they were unable to order anymore SS Subs or Explorers. That was leading him to believe that it was going to be updated in 2010. Also rumor of no more ND Sub.
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Old 25 December 2009, 10:44 AM   #45
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Guys, guys.............

Sorry for not being all that optimistic........but what makes any of you so sure that Rolex is in fact going to come out with a new SS Ceramic Sub in 2010?

Some of you could be in for a mighty big disappointment if nothing happens!!

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That's EXACTLY what I was just thinking!
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Old 25 December 2009, 10:46 AM   #46
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I was in my AD this week and he said that they were unable to order anymore SS Subs or Explorers. That was leading him to believe that it was going to be updated in 2010. Also rumor of no more ND Sub.
I am so against the ceramic bezel on the Exp II, it's not funny. It's supposed to be a rugged watch, designed for adventurers! Not for some male version of Paris Hilton to show off at a party.
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Old 25 December 2009, 10:52 AM   #47
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I am so against the ceramic bezel on the Exp II, it's not funny. It's supposed to be a rugged watch, designed for adventurers! Not for some male version of Paris Hilton to show off at a party.
I couldn't agree more....
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Old 25 December 2009, 11:08 AM   #48
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Guys, guys.............

Sorry for not being all that optimistic........but what makes any of you so sure that Rolex is in fact going to come out with a new SS Ceramic Sub in 2010?

Some of you could be in for a mighty big disappointment if nothing happens!!

JJ
J.J. you are spot on , I was at my local AD this afternoon to get a "fake" local insurance certificate for my GMT I bought in the states :: blabla
So anyway I ask him do you have the new catalogue ...blabla .. we come to next Basel fair ...blabla .... I as a absolute cunt ask ..will they present the new ceramic Sub ? he simply answers .. what new SUB ? We as AD's are as much in the know as you people fantasying about it . With Rolex everything is possible , but only they decide it . We ( AD's) take it and get the price list and sometimes the watch we want ...
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Old 25 December 2009, 11:15 AM   #49
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A lot of cash for a very lame design .....
Don't you ever have anything positive to say? I mean, I like to play devil's advocate but you my good man chaff my a$$
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Old 25 December 2009, 11:52 AM   #50
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Don't you ever have anything positive to say? I mean, I like to play devil's advocate but you my good man chaff my a$$
You know my wife says the same thing ...Well, I got nothing positive to say for ROLEX's new directions and designs .... they are bastardizing the rolexes ... especially the ones I care about, like the SUB ....I guess they have given into the BIGGER IS BETTER hype and moving away from classism --- which has brought them this far ....
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Old 25 December 2009, 03:46 PM   #51
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I am so against the ceramic bezel on the Exp II, it's not funny. It's supposed to be a rugged watch, designed for adventurers! Not for some male version of Paris Hilton to show off at a party.
Agreed! This is what it looks like and this is how it should remain. Super Jubilee being optional, of course!!

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Old 26 December 2009, 07:04 AM   #52
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I really like the Jubilee bracelet, I think it wears more than the Oyster but it gives the watch another look.
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Old 26 December 2009, 07:41 AM   #53
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I'm probably going out on a limb here but since I have only recently got into Rolex I only prefer the newer designs. In fact when I tried on on an Explorer II I was seriously underwhelmed by it. I genuinely hope that the Explorer II gets the update but personally can't see Rolex giving us two SS sport watches in one go but if they do I would probably take it over a ceramic SS Sub unless this comes in a colour other than black.

I recall that someone did a photoshop of what an Explorer IIc might look like. It was a GMTIIc but the dial was white, had an orange 24hr hand and the bezel was the reverse i.e. black numbers on a silver/grey background and it looked fantastic can anyone remind me where this pic is? Thanks.
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Old 26 December 2009, 08:24 AM   #54
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I'm probably going out on a limb here but since I have only recently got into Rolex I only prefer the newer designs. In fact when I tried on on an Explorer II I was seriously underwhelmed by it. I genuinely hope that the Explorer II gets the update but personally can't see Rolex giving us two SS sport watches in one go but if they do I would probably take it over a ceramic SS Sub unless this comes in a colour other than black.

I recall that someone did a photoshop of what an Explorer IIc might look like. It was a GMTIIc but the dial was white, had an orange 24hr hand and the bezel was the reverse i.e. black numbers on a silver/grey background and it looked fantastic can anyone remind me where this pic is? Thanks.
Try the advanced search function.
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Old 26 December 2009, 08:30 AM   #55
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Try the advanced search function.
Every search I try comes back with 21 pages of threads???
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Old 26 December 2009, 08:33 AM   #56
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Every search I try comes back with 21 pages of threads???
Start clicking!

Sorry.

Unless the OP logs on, it may be hard for someone to remember the name of the thread.

Might want to use the terms photoshop, Explorer II etc. and see if your search can be limited.
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Old 26 December 2009, 08:39 AM   #57
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Then what gets upgraded next JJ the Explorer II or the Daytona, 2011 is the 50th anniversary of the Daytona will Rolex bring out a green dial version just like the other models at 50 years.
Interesting thoughts...a green dial Daytona.
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Old 26 December 2009, 08:50 AM   #58
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I for one am looking forward to the new Sub - I think the 16610 is in desperate need of an update, and I think the Glidelock clasp and solid link bracelet will be worth the price increase alone. Hopefully they'll refrain from PCLs, and take the really nice bits from the Deepsea and incorporate them onto a more wearable case.
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