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Old 7 March 2013, 07:59 AM   #31
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Both my 5711 got 324 movement. So far, I did not spotted any problem. This thread had me wear my 5711 more last few weeks!
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Old 7 March 2013, 09:05 AM   #32
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I have never had this problem with any of my Patek's that were fitted with the 324 movement
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Old 7 March 2013, 09:23 AM   #33
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....Frankly as a precaution, I'd pull the stem until I got it fixed.
if the movement is non hacking, would pulling the stem be any benefit?


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Hm. I've never seen this on mine.

is your 5711 a 324 or 315?
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Old 7 March 2013, 09:35 AM   #34
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if the movement is non hacking, would pulling the stem be any benefit?






is your 5711 a 324 or 315?

Good point. He could turn the stem counter clockwise just a tad, and that would stop the movement.

But it does appear that my intial advise was misguided anyway, and that this situation does occur. My understanding is that a slight tap will place the date where it needs to be, and that because this happens that it won't necessarily hurt anything if left to run like this.


I have two watches with the 324 movement and have yet to experience this issue.
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Old 7 March 2013, 11:12 AM   #35
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How can this be just nonchalantly explained to be, 'normal' ?

You see, this is why I don't get the Patek love...

I mean, I like Patek as a brand, and it's history indeed.

But for the prices, and my experience/research, 1) they shouldn't be priced so high and because 2) they really aren't that reliable and or greatly finished..

No way bashing your pieces, as i'm a fellow Patek owner (or was) selling my 5712.
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Old 7 March 2013, 11:27 PM   #36
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Finally my 5711 came home.
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Old 8 March 2013, 03:08 AM   #37
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No way bashing your pieces, as i'm a fellow Patek owner (or was) selling my 5712.
you serious about selling it?
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Old 8 March 2013, 03:09 AM   #38
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Finally my 5711 came home.
congrats!! that's a great shot!
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Old 8 March 2013, 04:22 AM   #39
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you serious about selling it?
Pretty sure... I think? We can talk
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Old 8 March 2013, 10:36 AM   #40
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I recently had a similar issue with mine. I scrolled through the date cycle (1...2.....3,,,,4.... Etc) until I had run through the equivalent of a couple months, and then set it to the correct date. I never had the issue again.

Not sure if it will work for you, but may be worth a shot before sending it off to Patek.

Good luck!
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Old 8 March 2013, 12:34 PM   #41
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Finally my 5711 came home.
Congratulation you got your baby back, i'll be sending mine this saturday.
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Old 17 March 2013, 06:58 PM   #42
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To clarify...

I had a date misalignment issue on my cal 324 but this was where is was consistently clipping off the top of the numerals. A tap wouldn't move it, it was as if the date ring itself was misaligned.

I sent it back to Patek a couple of times and finally dealt with a watchmaker at an authorised service centre who confirmed that it was an issue on some movements and there was a service update provided by Geneva which detailed how to resolve it. Since then it's been working perfectly and aligns nicely every time. I think it is a small issue that's made far worse by the design decision to use an extremely tightly framed date window. This doesn't allow much play in the wheels before the date shows as being out of alignment with the top of bottom of the window.

However, your issue of the date sticking sounds more serious. Definately get it sorted under warranty.


I'm very happy with my watch now and the watchmaker I dealt with was very enthusiastic about the many small improvements made to the 324 over the previous 315 calibre. The audible noise on the rotor for example is caused by the zirconium bearings.. good to know.
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Old 17 March 2013, 08:06 PM   #43
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Wow...This is makng me think twice on my next in line purchase. Hopefully Patek confirms a fix in the near future.
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Old 18 March 2013, 09:10 PM   #44
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Just got my 5711 from the service center here in Manila. They observe it for a week but the misalignement did not occur during that period.
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Old 18 March 2013, 09:16 PM   #45
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You should took some photo when it occur.

Keep it running,don't let it stop.
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Old 19 March 2013, 01:54 AM   #46
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I had a date misalignment issue on my cal 324 but this was where is was consistently clipping off the top of the numerals. A tap wouldn't move it, it was as if the date ring itself was misaligned.

I sent it back to Patek a couple of times and finally dealt with a watchmaker at an authorised service centre who confirmed that it was an issue on some movements and there was a service update provided by Geneva which detailed how to resolve it. Since then it's been working perfectly and aligns nicely every time. I think it is a small issue that's made far worse by the design decision to use an extremely tightly framed date window. This doesn't allow much play in the wheels before the date shows as being out of alignment with the top of bottom of the window.

However, your issue of the date sticking sounds more serious. Definately get it sorted under warranty.


I'm very happy with my watch now and the watchmaker I dealt with was very enthusiastic about the many small improvements made to the 324 over the previous 315 calibre. The audible noise on the rotor for example is caused by the zirconium bearings.. good to know.
A service update, now this sounds like great news. Wish we had a better idea exactly what that was.

Thanks for sharing.
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Old 19 March 2013, 01:57 AM   #47
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I recently had a similar issue with mine. I scrolled through the date cycle (1...2.....3,,,,4.... Etc) until I had run through the equivalent of a couple months, and then set it to the correct date. I never had the issue again.

Not sure if it will work for you, but may be worth a shot before sending it off to Patek.

Good luck!
This also sounds like something worth doing if you don't have time to take it in.

Thanks for sharing Brian.
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Old 19 March 2013, 01:58 AM   #48
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Finally my 5711 came home.
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Old 19 March 2013, 04:51 AM   #49
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Finally my 5711 came home.
That was a very quick turn around.

Patek must have made it a priority
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Old 19 March 2013, 07:25 AM   #50
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I actually saw the update printed out...

If you have this issue then insist on getting is fixed. I briefly saw a printout of the actual service update which showed what the problem was and the suggested solution.

A quick google image search of Pateks with a 324 such as the 5711 and the 5296 will instantly show you that many have the date cut off at the top.

Why Patek chose a date window and wheel font that allowed absolutely no deviation from perfect alignment is beyond my understanding. A slightly smaller font and the normal slight variation due to play in the date wheel chain would not be noticable.

Anyway I can say that now it's fixed I'm very happy with the watch.

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A service update, now this sounds like great news. Wish we had a better idea exactly what that was.

Thanks for sharing.
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Old 19 March 2013, 07:29 AM   #51
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Finally my 5711 came home.
I'm glad to hear your issue has been resolved.
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Old 19 March 2013, 07:31 AM   #52
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If you have this issue then insist on getting is fixed. I hriefly saw a printout of the actual service update which showed what the problem was and the suggested solution.

A quick google image search of Pateks with a 324 such as the 5711 and the 5296 will instantly show you that many have the date cut off at the top.

Why Patek chose a date window and wheel font that allowed absolutely no deviation from perfect alignment is beyond my understanding. A slightly smaller font and the normal slight variation due to play in the date wheel chain would not be noticable.

Anyway I can say that now it's fixed I'm very happy with the watch.
I wonder if tyhey would address this on a watch out of warranty, one would think they might and should.

Thanks again for the longer explanation John.


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Old 19 March 2013, 07:38 AM   #53
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Wow,

The white dial looks sensational on your nautilus. Makes me want one even more....

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Old 19 March 2013, 11:14 AM   #54
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That was a very quick turn around.

Patek must have made it a priority
I send my 5711 back to AD in Jun. and have it back in Mar.
I don't see any "priority" in it.
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Old 18 May 2013, 12:08 AM   #55
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Is this fix worth doing? Mine has gotten stuck a handful of times. Always around the 20th of the month (between 17th and 23rd). Happened again last night while changing over to the 17th.

Just don't want to send the watch in for several weeks if it's not such a big deal and if it's no harm to the movement. Rather get it done same time as the first service.

Or should it be sent in asap?
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Old 18 May 2013, 01:40 AM   #56
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Better have it fixed under warantee.
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Old 18 May 2013, 04:35 AM   #57
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I send my 5711 back to AD in Jun. and have it back in Mar.
I don't see any "priority" in it.
What you got it back before you even sent it!
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Old 18 May 2013, 08:10 AM   #58
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Noticed some photos of the caliber 324 have the numbers "324/390" just below the movement seriel number. Some others have "324/303" and some (including mine) has just "324".

Could the difference have something to do with the update to the sticky date issue?

Anyone know the differences between them please and which is the latest version?
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Old 18 May 2013, 10:20 AM   #59
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What you got it back before you even sent it!
I'm sorry.
I mean Jan.
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Well my 5167 has gone back to patek after date misalignment on two consecutive days.
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