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Old 5 March 2014, 05:30 AM   #1
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this. i would also like to know the answer to this straightforward question. is it possible that you could obtain the answer from the person who organised it all? thank you.
Based on a quick Google search, this topic is posted on numerous sites in the same manner.

Always a new poster(s), never any picture proof and after they have trolled the forum they leave.

The one picture someone did post looked like it was engraved with a screwdriver. As for providing confirmation from Rolex we all know this will never happen.
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Old 5 March 2014, 05:40 AM   #2
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I'm going to have my GMT engraved by Goldsmiths with my initials, get a letter to say it's 1 of 1 and advertise it as a special from Rolex (as Goldsmiths and Rolex are the same) Should be worth millions.....):

What a laugh - thanks for the entertainment !
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Old 5 March 2014, 05:52 AM   #3
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Well if I am not wrong or these old eyes cannot read I believe you have been asked that question several times.The question is simply enough did these watches have the engraved case backs done by Rolex HQ or simply done by a third party.
Yeah just weird responses by Gary and the other guy Richie. Don't know why they are promoting this watch so much and defending it, and saying they are not bothered about it's value.

Anyway that Richie said this on another site.

I have not avoided any questions, all watches were sold by Rolex bond street at RRP including the gold one, I purely managed the order book to ensure the watches went to those with a connection, each green card that accompanies the watch states GMT Sea King ltd ed with the number. The case backs were done by Rolex but I believe a UK engraver, that was there business as I was simply supplied with the complete watches.
What other questions have I not answered, please advise, I'm not asking you to buy one!


Although the english is bad, the fact that a UK engraver is mentioned, I think puts this question to rest.
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Old 5 March 2014, 05:57 AM   #4
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Yeah just weird responses by Gary and the other guy Richie. Don't know why they are promoting this watch so much and defending it, and saying they are not bothered about it's value.

Anyway that Richie said this on another site.

I have not avoided any questions, all watches were sold by Rolex bond street at RRP including the gold one, I purely managed the order book to ensure the watches went to those with a connection, each green card that accompanies the watch states GMT Sea King ltd ed with the number. The case backs were done by Rolex but I believe a UK engraver, that was there business as I was simply supplied with the complete watches.
What other questions have I not answered, please advise, I'm not asking you to buy one!


Although the english is bad, the fact that a UK engraver is mentioned, I think puts this question to rest.
Yep,closed. Now moderator delete the thread and let's get back to something serious
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Old 5 March 2014, 05:59 AM   #5
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Yeah just weird responses by Gary and the other guy Richie. Don't know why they are promoting this watch so much and defending it, and saying they are not bothered about it's value.

Anyway that Richie said this on another site.

I have not avoided any questions, all watches were sold by Rolex bond street at RRP including the gold one, I purely managed the order book to ensure the watches went to those with a connection, each green card that accompanies the watch states GMT Sea King ltd ed with the number. The case backs were done by Rolex but I believe a UK engraver, that was there business as I was simply supplied with the complete watches.
What other questions have I not answered, please advise, I'm not asking you to buy one!

Although the english is bad, the fact that a UK engraver is mentioned, I think puts this question to rest.

I'll try to say this as politely as I can.

What Gary & Richie says and my cat poops I put on the same pile.
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Old 3 March 2014, 07:34 AM   #6
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The easiest way to verify the veracity of the claim is to call Mike Hudson of WOS first thing tomorrow.
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I don't think these were made by Rolex at Rolex factory. The letter is from WOS not Rolex HQ. Now if it had a letter from good old Henry Hudson no relation to Mike that would be a different story. I will say as long as you like it and enjoy it fine but to me it is a GMT with an engraved case back nothing more and nothing less. I am guessing WOS perhaps paid to do for a batch of watches and is selling them for a hefty profit. Again if I saw proof otherwise I would change my mind but until then sorry. So to me the watch is a GMT that a store decided to commission someone to engrave case backs and create a 128 or however many of them and make it a limited offering by that AD not Rolex. Again the letter is from an AD not Rolex HQ. I also think that is a heck of a lot to pay for an engraved case back.
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I don't think these were made by Rolex at Rolex factory. The letter is from WOS not Rolex HQ. Now if it had a letter from good old Henry Hudson no relation to Mike that would be a different story. I will say as long as you like it and enjoy it fine but to me it is a GMT with an engraved case back nothing more and nothing less. I am guessing WOS perhaps paid to do for a batch of watches and is selling them for a hefty profit. Again if I saw proof otherwise I would change my mind but until then sorry. So to me the watch is a GMT that a store decided to commission someone to engrave case backs and create a 128 or however many of them and make it a limited offering by that AD not Rolex. Again the letter is from an AD not Rolex HQ. I also think that is a heck of a lot to pay for an engraved case back.
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Old 3 March 2014, 07:41 AM   #9
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I would never pay that premium for a caseback engraving of that quality.

A mili sub is the complete opposite. Different hands, bezel, dial and it was actually used. Similar thing with Comex. It was used by the divers. Especially that comex that was made for the divers to use but then they couldn't. That's a cool story. This is boring.
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I think someone is getting paid to push these. Okay, so someone engraved a Rolex case back. We get it.
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Old 3 March 2014, 07:47 AM   #11
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Isn't the OP the originator?
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Old 3 March 2014, 07:57 AM   #12
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Limited editions for the sake of limited editions do not interest me.

Watches of truly limited availability on the other hand, do.
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To me, and to most people, that engraved caseback just makes the watch less desirable. It would be harder to sell it at the normal retail price, let alone with a mark-up.
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Would only mean something to a sea king pilot IMHO
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wrong thread ,,, so many engraved case backs these days
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they must be crappy pilots ,, why would a helicopter pilot want a divers watch .... unless hes planning on crashing ,,,,
It's a GMT II, you will harm the water resistant with a engraved backcase.
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It's a GMT II, you will harm the water resistant with a engraved backcase.
yep , thought it was subs ,, im loosing track , there are so many special one of limited edition engraved case backs floating about these days ,,,
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yep , thought it was subs ,, im loosing track , there are so many special one of limited edition engraved case backs floating about these days ,,,
Maybe it was a Sub from the start.
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wrong thread ,,, so many engraved case backs these days

Gmt , is a pilots watch
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Look at that letter. He calls it a Rolex GMT11 (with numerals, so eleven) instead of GMT-Master II, there's an empty line after the serial number, the font size is huge, etc. looks like a fake letter to me, sorry.
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Look at that letter. He calls it a Rolex GMT11 (with numerals, so eleven) instead of GMT-Master II, there's an empty line after the serial number, the font size is huge, etc. looks like a fake letter to me, sorry.
Didn't you know the Seaking even is known as GMT Eleven?

Next week WOS sell GMT 711 The Cash Assistance.
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Look at that letter. He calls it a Rolex GMT11 (with numerals, so eleven) instead of GMT-Master II, there's an empty line after the serial number, the font size is huge, etc. looks like a fake letter to me, sorry.
I have a note from Epstein's mother saying the same thing

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Had this watch quietly slipped into the stream I think it could have been interesting, but now with all this pretend hype it's a parody now.
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Its a shame that the OP doesn't know some basic facts of the watch. How many casebacks were commissioned as numbers vary according to sources. Who engraved the casebacks? Who put them on...WOS? All of which have some impact on pricing...limited as that might be. I still suspect we are talking a few hundred, if that...and not thousands as is being touted...after all the caseback is crudely done. This is just my humble opinion and in not in any way to be disrespectful...
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Its a shame that the OP doesn't know some basic facts of the watch. How many casebacks were commissioned as numbers vary according to sources. Who engraved the casebacks? Who put them on...WOS? All of which have some impact on pricing...limited as that might be. I still suspect we are talking a few hundred, if that...and not thousands as is being touted...after all the caseback is crudely done. This is just my humble opinion and in not in any way to be disrespectful...
I've been a member on here 3 yrs and you think the watch isn't genuine and the letter is a fake , lol you must be nuts ! These watches are all the genuine article , one of you mods etc give them a call tomorrow to confirm the watch I own , I'm happy to be permantly banned from this site if it turns out theses watches are not genuine , I know they are as I've collected 1 in person from the store in london
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i dont doubt the engraving is real ,,, but for 32k id whittle the case back down with an ants eyelash ,,, just on the engraving ,, i really dont like the spacing on the words ,, but thats only getting picky , it has an un even look to it ,,



referred to titanium there by mistake ,, thats the other engraved case back thread ,,
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Did someone say 32k??? Surely it's not 1st April already?!
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Did someone say 32k??? Surely it's not 1st April already?!
or was that for the clearance divers sea king help and guidance watch ,,, was there actually a price quoted for the seeking profit watch
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Gary, apologises firstly. I'm not questioning whether the watch is genuine...as that i believe it is.

It's just the scenario of the caseback is in question, that's all. That is who did the work and who put it on. I know if I was spending thousands on a watch, especially one which was 'limited' I would want to know this.

Not questioning your integrity at all.
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ok ,,, now im really confused ,,, so , what your actually saying is that a group of ex pilots all clubbed in to get a gmt each , with a club caseback ,,, for old times sake.


didnt i read early on that the idea was to make some money for a charity ,,,,,

how was that to be if the watches wernt to be sold at an inflated price ,,, thats what i call monetary gain

what you do with the ,, profit ,, is a different issue ,,, if the batch of watches were just done as an old fly boys memento ,,, very nice ... its the financial gain bit thats raising the questions ,,,
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