Sell 3 watches for a PP 5711?

[daytonaTBR]

Do it. The nautilus is worth every penny. I would also look into a 5712 if possible.

[Hollister]

Not for a 5711 - the second-most unimaginative buyer's choice in the PP line-up. Maybe a 5712, which looks a bit (lot) more funky, and has a much better-looking and more interesting movement.

[hoanghung45]

3 ?
I flipped 4. Worth it ! Our tastes change and evolve from time to time and i can tell it's getting better and better

[hbk25]

I just did this last week.

Traded 2 plus $$$ for an Aquanaut, and very happy today. Actually content might be a better word for it. I loved the z blue & exp ii, but this patek just fits every occasion, all while giving me this quiet sense of satisfaction.

[ap1]

Not for those 3, you should be getting cash back. 25off a 5711, yeah right, I need that guys AD if so. For the Portuguese and deepsea - full speed ahead.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Congratulations! While i'd stay where you are, if you want a Patek make sure you get at least 25% discount. Call dealers telling them you have that Patek for sale and see what they offer you for it. That should be your starting point when buying the watch.

25% off a 5711???????

[goog53]

Typically I would say don't trade so many pieces BUT IMO you have plenty of other options so I'd decrease the total number of watches you own and go for it. Once you get the 5711 it will be hard to take off so you only need a few pieces to occasionally switch it up

[Starwalker]

i wouldn't do it! too many watches to swap for a patek imo. may be for for a 5712 - worth considering.

[Tay821]

Originally Posted by lapince

25% off a 5711???????

+1. Yes, please tell me where one is in stock, let alone 25% off

[Tomas Eriksson]

You have a good trio, I wouldn't

[jon_jon]

Originally Posted by lapince

25% off a 5711???????

Many people here on the forum, including you Arnaud IIRC, have included a VAT refund in calculating % off retail price. We know many EU countries have ~20% VAT and if an AD offered an additional 5% off, people will say they got 25% off. It can be misleading to some, but numbers can be reported so many different ways, depending on the effect one wants to achieve.

[de66]

Originally Posted by bbhewee

Thanks for all the kind opinions, and more importantly the kind wishes.

Much appreciated as I always like some perspective. I have the uncanny ability to easily convince myself I need something... Haha

I still would have a 6265, a 16570, a Zenith Flyback and a IWC RG Portuguese 7 Days... But I may stay put. Or just sell the AP that I do not wear all that much.

Why not consider selling those plus the AP in that case?

[de66]

Originally Posted by bbhewee

Hello all.

My fiancee and I are expecting a baby boy in early January.
I have thought about purchasing a new timepiece to celebrate the occasion (I have already taken care of the gift for mommy).

Initially I was going to buy a steel Rolex. But now I have it in my head to buy a PP 5711. In order to do this, and as wedding expenses and new house expenses are impending, I need to sell some watches to get it.

I'm looking at BLNR, Deepsea and AP RO Dual Time to get this watch.

Would you do it? Would you not?

Thanks for all your opinions.

En nog gefeliciteerd joh!!

[Urosfan]

Congrats I'd stay put enjoy the baby and your marriage

[locutus49]

I would not make an impulse buy at this important juncture. Wait till the dust clears and then do if if you still feel the urge. Definitely do not rush into it.

[Peterandwatches]

I fully believe in quality over quantity, so if you love the 5711 enough to be your crown jewel, go for it.

[mineral]

I will do it and you won't regret with the jumbo 5711.

[Tan]

I would get the Patek, there's nothing like it.

[dchang81]

Originally Posted by jon_jon

Many people here on the forum, including you Arnaud IIRC, have included a VAT refund in calculating % off retail price. We know many EU countries have ~20% VAT and if an AD offered an additional 5% off, people will say they got 25% off. It can be misleading to some, but numbers can be reported so many different ways, depending on the effect one wants to achieve.

What gets me is when people quote the percent off with getting VAT back like it was negotiated.

[psv]

If you love the 5711 more than any other watch out there, then do it. It is very easy to get swept away by forum and friends going for so called grails (been there, done that). Try it on and make sure that it is the ONE.

Otherwise you have a very nice trio - be grateful and happy!

And congrats on upcoming wedding and baby!

[TimeOnHand]

No way man!

[Hairdude1]

5711 is a great watch, to sell three other good watches I would wait

[Finkalot]

I totally would as I'm a sucker for consolidating. Beware though, once you get a PP you'll want to add another one soon.

Also, it's not easy to find a 5711, and a 25% discount would be even harder (if not impossible) to find!

Personally I'd go for a 5712 over a 5711.


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[metdrdg]

I would say go for it. I love the 5711 it's a daily beater for me and better to consolidate your collection IMHO.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by jon_jon

Many people here on the forum, including you Arnaud IIRC, have included a VAT refund in calculating % off retail price. We know many EU countries have ~20% VAT and if an AD offered an additional 5% off, people will say they got 25% off. It can be misleading to some, but numbers can be reported so many different ways, depending on the effect one wants to achieve.

Yes, but I can't imagine anyone getting serious discount on a 5711, I got 2% on the 5712 plus 8% tax off.
When you see 20% tax you never get back 20, you get back 16.9 and that's if the dealer doesn't use global blue, so even with 16.9, can't imagine them doing you more than 2-3%, especially on a first buy on a watch they can sell without discounting...

[jon_jon]

Originally Posted by lapince

Yes, but I can't imagine anyone getting serious discount on a 5711, I got 2% on the 5712 plus 8% tax off.
When you see 20% tax you never get back 20, you get back 16.9 and that's if the dealer doesn't use global blue, so even with 16.9, can't imagine them doing you more than 2-3%, especially on a first buy on a watch they can sell without discounting...

It's true that numbers can be quoted in various ways and it means different things to different people. I believe talking about % off across countries and currencies is like comparing apples to oranges.

US has no VAT, but adds sales tax depending on the state. Most of EU have a VAT, somewhere around 20% plus/minus. Other countries around the world have a lower VAT. Places like HK have no tax. Russia, China, Brazil, etc have a 25%+ luxury tax. There is no way you can compare "discounts" or "% off" across all these countries and have a meaningful discussion on whether you got a good deal or not. A person can say he purchased a reference xxxx for $xx,000 USD equivalent from a certain country and he was able to take advantage of the weak currency and the VAT refund. But this person may have received zero discount and still came out ahead due to these other factors.

Karl just posted the Swiss watch prices on another thread. For the 5711/1A, it is 21,000 CHF and you can subtract VAT from the price if you qualify. So why doesn't everyone fly out to Switzerland to buy the watch? We know that it is a matter of supply and availability. For those who live in North American or Asia, flying out to Switzerland is not as easy as it is for Europeans. So IMO comparing discounts and relative prices is an interesting intellectual exercise. But in the real world, the price you actually pay for a watch is limited by the AD connections you have, your ability to travel and some luck due to currency exchange rates at the time of purchase.

In summary, I don't know if it makes a difference if you obtain 10% off (or even a 20% off) a 5711/1A from an AD in the US. If you were able to purchase the 5711/1A from the UK during Brexit and were able to take advantage of the weak GBP and qualified for the VAT refund, you would come out way ahead even with a zero discount from the UK retail price. I am not saying 10-20% off a 5711/1A is possible or impossible, I am just giving a hypothetical situation where comparing prices and discounts across countries is like comparing apples to oranges.

[Jacobson]

I would have difficulty loosing my BLNR, live it too much.

The 5711 Has to be one of my most cherished
Here it is:

[lapince]

dump the Rollies, keep the AP

[youthagainsttt]

Keep the AP Dual time, it's my next watch and for the complications and the design i think it's fantastic

[lapince]

Originally Posted by dchang81

What gets me is when people quote the percent off with getting VAT back like it was negotiated.

I always put % by dealer, and VAT % off, or say the total includes VAT and discount. For the 5711, except if you bought from them a ton of watches, don't expect any discount IMO, why should they, they sell too easily...