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skkali168 · 30 August 2017, 12:58 PM

114060 BAM!

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txaggie9307 · 30 August 2017, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by skkali168

114060 BAM!

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Eh, I think I changed my mind as this post makes me like the explorer ii more!

🤣

I.e. This gentleman is the prospective sub seller! Love that sub!!!

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skywood · 30 August 2017, 01:22 PM

I'd keep the Explorer.

nikesupremedunk · 30 August 2017, 01:23 PM

The Explorer looks good on your wrist. For me it's the sub because I tried on the exp2 and it looked huge.

scarlet knight · 30 August 2017, 01:27 PM

I would keep the Explorer 2 and save for the Sub. I own and enjoy both.

Laszlo · 30 August 2017, 01:38 PM

I'd keep the Explorer.

4vCoupe · 30 August 2017, 01:54 PM

I would prefer the subC nd. It wears great, has the glide lock and is versatile.

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asiparks · 30 August 2017, 02:14 PM

I'd argue that the fine radial brushing and highly polished edge of the Explorers' stainless bezel catches the light in far more interesting ways than the ceramic bezel of the Sub....
The Explorer case, whilst bigger, is more traditionally elegant than the fat arsed Sub case
and the larger maxi dial is more legible...so, waaaayyyy better than the Sub* and that's even before the extra GMT functionality and date...

Still your wrist, your money, try them both.

* Obviously just my opinion. But it is. Way.

skkali168 · 30 August 2017, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 4vCoupe

I would prefer the subC nd. It wears great, has the glide lock and is versatile.

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Nothing beats the glide lock and if you want a GMT nothing beats the GMT Master II :)

Plus, if you started thinking about giving up the Explorer, you will eventually give it up, maybe not now but you will soon.

mailman · 30 August 2017, 09:17 PM

I've owned both watches...twice. I currently only have a 216570. I find it's more comfortable on my wrist. It's due to the lower, wider case back. Easy to tell the time no matter what angle you look at the watch. The orange hand is just cool

I like the fact that it tips it's hat to the 1655. The orange writing on the dial is a nice touch also. I prefer the tapered lugs to the ones on the 114060. Another nice thing is you don't see one everyone else. The 114060 is a great watch and it's iconic for a reason. Not having a date wasn't an issue for me. You can get an almost perfect with the Glidelock, but the Easylink clasp is more comfortable for me.

These are just my observations based on my own experiences. YMMV

N_Swe · 31 August 2017, 03:48 AM

Explorer.
The date and the wonderful satin dial. And - perfect size.

Rocco21 · 31 August 2017, 04:32 AM

114060

luvan12 · 31 August 2017, 05:05 AM

Keep the explorer.

txaggie9307 · 31 August 2017, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocco21

114060

I saw you sold yours! How come?

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Xerxes77 · 31 August 2017, 05:39 AM

Both are great for every day watch!

gwalker · 31 August 2017, 07:35 AM

Love both but I'd want a date

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txaggie9307 · 2 September 2017, 11:48 PM

Really thinking about ditching this expii

for the no date! $300 plus the trade worth it?

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watchwatcher · 2 September 2017, 11:51 PM

Please don't trade it...you've already lost two great watches getting it.

Take it from another flipper

, keep your watch and add a sub to it down the road when you can afford it.

txaggie9307 · 3 September 2017, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Please don't trade it...you've already lost two great watches getting it.

Take it from another flipper

, keep your watch and add a sub to it down the road when you can afford it.

Eeesh!! The flipper in me cant stop! However I do love the wide lugs of the sub..

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polaris72 · 3 September 2017, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

keep the exp2 and save up for a sub.

You start flipping around and you're going to lose money. If you buy the sub at least you'll have something to show for your money.

+1

Edit: grow your collection with patience.

cobblecanyon · 3 September 2017, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Keep the EXP2 and save up for a sub.

You start flipping around and you're going to lose money. If you buy the sub at least you'll have something to show for your money.

This ** just slowly start saving for watch #2.

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dave023 · 3 September 2017, 02:46 AM

114060

txaggie9307 · 3 September 2017, 05:10 AM

Close the thread. I am keeping the exp ii.

Years ago when I interned in Aspen Colorado as a kid, I encountered a large Rolex ad advertisement of a polar 16570. When I saw it then, I knew I would own an explorer ii someday.

I need to hold onto this and make it my own. #quittheflipping

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Duey · 3 September 2017, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mailman

I've owned both watches...twice. I currently only have a 216570. I find it's more comfortable on my wrist. It's due to the lower, wider case back. Easy to tell the time no matter what angle you look at the watch. The orange hand is just cool

I like the fact that it tips it's hat to the 1655. The orange writing on the dial is a nice touch also. I prefer the tapered lugs to the ones on the 114060. Another nice thing is you don't see one everyone else. The 114060 is a great watch and it's iconic for a reason. Not having a date wasn't an issue for me. You can get an almost perfect with the Glidelock, but the Easylink clasp is more comfortable for me.

These are just my observations based on my own experiences. YMMV

Nicely Said

watchwatcher · 3 September 2017, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txaggie9307

Close the thread. I am keeping the exp ii.

txaggie9307 · 3 September 2017, 05:42 AM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kB5cVucsod...range-Hand.jpg

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strafer_kid · 3 September 2017, 07:49 AM

Tricky one as both are excellent watches. I still have the SubC though flipped the Explorer. It wore really well and I liked the overall design but it just felt too big at 42mm. Comes down to personal taste in the end.

kangajack · 4 September 2017, 05:03 AM

While market forces dictate a bit higher resale value on the Sub vs. Explorer II currently, the 216570 is a more complicated watch with GMT function and Date. It also contains the next generation of movement upgrades. I suggest that the 216570 has more upside potential. Personally, I love the watch and wear it close to every day. Be bold. Be different.

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KeithP · 4 September 2017, 05:31 AM

Subs are great but the 216570 is my favorite reference by far, so....
Only you know what you like best.

30 August 2017, 01:23 PM	#34
nikesupremedunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Andrew Location: NYC Posts: 1,227	The Explorer looks good on your wrist. For me it's the sub because I tried on the exp2 and it looked huge. __________________ \| 116234 DJ36 \| 116610LN SubC \| 116520 Daytona \| BlackBay 58 Blue \|

30 August 2017, 01:38 PM	#36
Laszlo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,868	I'd keep the Explorer. __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

30 August 2017, 09:17 PM	#40
mailman TRF Moderator & SubLV41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,504	I've owned both watches...twice. I currently only have a 216570. I find it's more comfortable on my wrist. It's due to the lower, wider case back. Easy to tell the time no matter what angle you look at the watch. The orange hand is just cool I like the fact that it tips it's hat to the 1655. The orange writing on the dial is a nice touch also. I prefer the tapered lugs to the ones on the 114060. Another nice thing is you don't see one everyone else. The 114060 is a great watch and it's iconic for a reason. Not having a date wasn't an issue for me. You can get an almost perfect with the Glidelock, but the Easylink clasp is more comfortable for me. These are just my observations based on my own experiences. YMMV __________________ JJ

2 September 2017, 11:48 PM	#47
txaggie9307 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 564	Really thinking about ditching this expii for the no date! $300 plus the trade worth it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ *2 FACTOR AUTHENTICATION ENABLED.*

3 September 2017, 05:10 AM	#53
txaggie9307 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 564	114060 vs 216570 for one watch daily wearer Close the thread. I am keeping the exp ii. Years ago when I interned in Aspen Colorado as a kid, I encountered a large Rolex ad advertisement of a polar 16570. When I saw it then, I knew I would own an explorer ii someday. I need to hold onto this and make it my own. #quittheflipping Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ *2 FACTOR AUTHENTICATION ENABLED.*

30 August 2017, 12:58 PM	#31
skkali168 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: RP Location: irvine Watch: 116689 Posts: 1,222	114060 BAM! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

30 August 2017, 01:22 PM	#33
skywood "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Raymond Location: Hong Kong Posts: 158	I'd keep the Explorer.

30 August 2017, 01:27 PM	#35
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,459	I would keep the Explorer 2 and save for the Sub. I own and enjoy both.

30 August 2017, 01:54 PM	#37
4vCoupe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Watch: GMT Master 16750 Posts: 795	I would prefer the subC nd. It wears great, has the glide lock and is versatile. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 August 2017, 02:14 PM	#38
asiparks "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Portland, OR Watch: ing the Detectives Posts: 1,888	I'd argue that the fine radial brushing and highly polished edge of the Explorers' stainless bezel catches the light in far more interesting ways than the ceramic bezel of the Sub.... The Explorer case, whilst bigger, is more traditionally elegant than the fat arsed Sub case and the larger maxi dial is more legible...so, waaaayyyy better than the Sub* and that's even before the extra GMT functionality and date... Still your wrist, your money, try them both. * Obviously just my opinion. But it is. Way.

31 August 2017, 03:48 AM	#41
N_Swe "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 193	Explorer. The date and the wonderful satin dial. And - perfect size.

31 August 2017, 04:32 AM	#42
Rocco21 Banned Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Rob Location: Cape Cod Watch: 126660,126600 Posts: 1,324	114060

31 August 2017, 05:05 AM	#43
luvan12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Port St. Lucie Posts: 142	Keep the explorer.

31 August 2017, 05:39 AM	#45
Xerxes77 Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Home! Posts: 3,307	Both are great for every day watch!

31 August 2017, 07:35 AM	#46
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	Love both but I'd want a date Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 September 2017, 11:51 PM	#48
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,008	Please don't trade it...you've already lost two great watches getting it. Take it from another flipper , keep your watch and add a sub to it down the road when you can afford it.

3 September 2017, 02:46 AM	#52
dave023 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Real Name: David Location: Home Watch: Classics Posts: 773	114060

3 September 2017, 05:42 AM	#56
txaggie9307 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 564	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kB5cVucsod...range-Hand.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ *2 FACTOR AUTHENTICATION ENABLED.*

3 September 2017, 07:49 AM	#57
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,136	Tricky one as both are excellent watches. I still have the SubC though flipped the Explorer. It wore really well and I liked the overall design but it just felt too big at 42mm. Comes down to personal taste in the end.

4 September 2017, 05:03 AM	#58
kangajack Banned Join Date: May 2014 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 246	While market forces dictate a bit higher resale value on the Sub vs. Explorer II currently, the 216570 is a more complicated watch with GMT function and Date. It also contains the next generation of movement upgrades. I suggest that the 216570 has more upside potential. Personally, I love the watch and wear it close to every day. Be bold. Be different. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

4 September 2017, 05:31 AM	#59
KeithP "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Real Name: Keith Location: NYC Watch: AK 126900/SM 300M Posts: 1,664	Subs are great but the 216570 is my favorite reference by far, so.... Only you know what you like best.

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