1680 Red Submariner questions

[onkyo]

You can't fake crud like that. I would take that baby to watchmaker for a real good cleaning, inside and out!

[JohnEaton]

Thank you Jim and Onkyo for your "crud" opinions

And why do I have the feeling a Jocke "super-crud" photo is in the process of being posted???

[springer]

Originally Posted by mike

John,

A 93150 is a correct replacement bracelet. It should have 580 endlinks as these are the current replacements. Orginally the watch should have had a 9315 with 280 or 380s.

Triplock markings might indicate a latter replacement as well.

I would put a 2.3 mil. number at around 1969. The earliest meters first I've seen reported is in the 2.1 mil. range.

Try and get good photos of the dial showing the length of "SUBMARINER" as well as showing a long or short f.

Also pay attention to the condition of the case and lugs.

This is one of the most faked pieces out there.

Good luck.

As noted by Mike, the 9315 fliplock clasp was used on many of the vintage subs. Also used was the 7206 rivet band with a regular clasp. In the USA, many came with the C I rivet bracelet, which didn't have a band number on the bracelet (most had two digits on the clasp indicating the year of production).