On Buying A New Grail Question

[David5807]

Originally Posted by watchguy1234567

The man with the Sky D in his picture is telling me to get the Day Date - how come? You'd be the perfect reference point - is the Sky D too heavy? Too big?
You probably have great info - would love to know more.

Also, the Sky-Dweller for me is not too heavy or big. I have a 6.5in wrist and think that it fits fine. I wouldn't consider it a daily wear but then again, none of my Rolexes are, that's why I have a G-Shock

[David5807]

Originally Posted by Tangier11

Right now you can buy a preowned 118238 DD (late model) for less than many SS watches. This is insane to me!

It's crazy right

[ashbaug2]

Originally Posted by watchguy1234567

that's a catch 22. keep it but obviously i'd like it to grow in value vs depreciate.

A) that's not a Catch 22, it's simply a conundrum.

B) If it was truly a Grail, you wouldn't give one iota about depreciation or appreciation because letting it go would never cross your mind.


My .02... Good luck.

[David5807]

Originally Posted by ashbaug2

B) If it was truly a Grail, you wouldn't give one iota about depreciation or appreciation because letting it go would never cross your mind.

That about sums it up.
I can understand wanting your grail piece to retain value but if this is truly a grail then just buy what you love because it won't be getting sold or traded anyway.

[Tangier11]

Originally Posted by David5807

That about sums it up.
I can understand wanting your grail piece to retain value but if this is truly a grail then just buy what you love because it won't be getting sold or traded anyway.

No question. My old grail was a DD, I know have it and now I have two new grails to wish for, a Platona. $75K for this watch makes no sense at all in my mind, but sense has nothing to do with it

[ashbaug2]

Originally Posted by Tangier11

No question. My old grail was a DD, I know have it and now I have two new grails to wish for, a Platona. $75K for this watch makes no sense at all in my mind, but sense has nothing to do with it

Mine is an Explorer dial Sub... way out of my reach.

But really, isn't that what Grails are supposed to be? Something almost totally unattainable?

[David5807]

Originally Posted by ashbaug2

Mine is an Explorer dial Sub... way out of my reach.

But really, isn't that what Grails are supposed to be? Something almost totally unattainable?

I dunno, I've always considered a grail piece to be one which would be considered to be the crown jewel of a collection.

[huncho]

if it's a grail you should already know the answer

with that said if price range is relatively the same between SS and PM i would be going PM every time

[LockesRolex]

In my personal opinion, a grail would be a watch that not only I would want and be happy to wear, but something everyone else wants and can't get.

I could not be happier with my Blue Dial SS Sky-Dweller. It's very rare and gets lots of attention from other watch enthusiasts. It's also very versatile with the GMT so travelling with it is pleasurable. I can count on the top of my head, 10 personal friends with DD40's but 0 that have the Blue Sky. In fact, most sales reps at AD's have never seen it in person. Whereas the DD-40 is so common.

I've never paid over MSRP on my Rolexes so I wouldn't be able to speak to you about whether or not it's worth it paying resale. All I can say is that, if you want attention, to be envied, have a more versatile, more complications, but at the same time, less flashy that you can travel with kind of watch, I'd go with the Blue Dial Sky-Dweller.

I think it also depends on what watches you already have to rotate with. If you have a lot of professional models, then getting a PM would help complete the collection. Just for reference, I have these three to rotate among.

[Phooi]

Originally Posted by David5807

Also, the Sky-Dweller for me is not too heavy or big. I have a 6.5in wrist and think that it fits fine. I wouldn't consider it a daily wear but then again, none of my Rolexes are, that's why I have a G-Shock

I have the same two watches except mine is a Blk SS SkyD. How were you able to get a blue SkyD if I may ask?

[watchguy1234567]

Originally Posted by 1SG MTB

There does seem to be some with a view that we’re in a SS bubble which will eventually burst, for what it’s worth. Good luck with your decision!

this is an answer that makes sense, thank you.

[Phooi]

Originally Posted by watchguy1234567

Thank you - i have NOT tried on either - (sky d is really impossible to find)
I have a thin wrist so i'm sure trying them on will make the difference.

I had a similar dilemma. I would just go to different ADs. Usually you can find a PM or TT SkyD and try one of those on. You’re going for fit and not weight. Just know that a PM or TT is heavier than SS. The size and thickness will be the same.

I tried on an everose SkyD on a strap. The size was no different than my Speedmaster but it was definitely thicker. I’ve owned thick watches so again, no issues. Thus, SkyD was a go.

Also, you should find out how easy it is to ding a DD in PM. I have no experience with this.

[watchguy1234567]

Originally Posted by ryanderamos

If you are chasing a grail, i guess the price of the watch does not matter because you like the watch to wear.

no, the price difference is 6k, that's really not a deal killer.

[David5807]

Originally Posted by Phooi

I have the same two watches except mine is a Blk SS SkyD. How were you able to get a blue SkyD if I may ask?

Honestly, it took me about six months of hunting and building relationships with ADs to finally get one at retail.

[watchguy1234567]

Originally Posted by huncho

if it's a grail you should already know the answer

with that said if price range is relatively the same between SS and PM i would be going PM every time

good answer -

[jltait]

Originally Posted by Tangier11

Right now you can buy a preowned 118238 DD (late model) for less than many SS watches. This is insane to me!

Best value around

[braddmlewis]

Totally agree. I am on the list for a Blue SD and hope to get one soon. I did get a White Daytona in 5 months so these things happen


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[Greg 59]

Originally Posted by Anestheticsaregood

Get a TT sky dweller for less than retail. Best value. Annual calendar, gmt function. Some yellow gold bling. The. Black or white dial are stunning. So is champagne. If you buy it right, which you should be able to, it will retain value as you aren’t paying a crazy premium.

This

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[locutus49]

Almost all watches depreciate. Old Daytonas and temporarily new SS are high but how long it will last is up in the air. Buying a watch that you THINK will appreciate is a long shot. As others have said, most of us buy watches to enjoy and not worry about depreciating.

Try both on. Good luck whatever you do.

Originally Posted by watchguy1234567

that's a catch 22. keep it but obviously i'd like it to grow in value vs depreciate.

[djgallo]

If it was me I would buy the SS SkyD in the market for the best price I could get. I would wear the watch and enjoy it. Even with paying the high premium today for the SS SkyD I believe over the years it will lose LESS value than a PM DD.

[tymonster]

Don't think either will appreciate more.

To me the Sky-Dweller is a Day-Date with an added complication and slightly larger size. Will you use the complication on the Sky-Dweller? I personally think it's a well executed design and a unique interpretation of dual-time. If you're not going to use it though then don't see the point in getting that piece.

The Day-Date does nothing for me, SS or PM. The Sky-Dweller is much more unique in its presentation. If it were me I'd get that and use 7K towards a clean 5 digit sub w/ a tritium dial if you want something 40mm and to gamble with appreciation...

[Mikebt]

My grail was the dd40(yg silver dial) - it was emotional purchase- my first big investment in high end watches.
6 months later i felt I needed a change and add a ss and I was deciding between Royal oak, overseas and rolex ss moddels. The final decision was between blue and black faced skyd. In the end I went for black even tough blue is the one in high demand.
At the moment I wear my skyd on daily basis and it wears perfect.

Its true, both watches are true scratch magnets but i stopped thinking about it.
I havent been wearing my dd for a couple of weeks now

I just put it on my wrist before writing my crap here.
The dd is a mouth watering piece.
I like it a bit more than the skyd. -> the yg looks fantastic on the silver dial
But then there are those other days when I feel skyd > dd.
I love both watches you cant go wrong no matter what you decide.
If you are loaded get both and you’ll live happily ever after

[Mikebt]

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[Nikrnic]

My strategy would be to get a DD40 at a discount from my AD. I wont buy over Msrp but if you want a SkyD in blue you will have to go grey and I cant say it makes no sense because due to market value it's worth it. I just can't or wont but l can't or wont say its foolish. Buy what you love and Enjoy!!...

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[akilis]

Originally Posted by watchguy1234567

I am sort of shocked that the prices of stainless steel sport watches have risen so dramatically.

For this grail purchase assume the price point i'd like to spend is 21-27k.

Would it make more sense to buy the blue dial stainless steel sky dweller or would it be better to buy a 40mm day date for about 6k more?

I'm just curious what the experts and WIS people think about the better strategy and which one would appreciate more.

Thank you for your consideration.

it's not news

[locutus49]

No, you reject all the answers that make sense. You are another newbie who wants to make money off a Rolex. Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by watchguy1234567

this is an answer that makes sense, thank you.

[Wimbledon]

Originally Posted by watchguy1234567

I am sort of shocked that the prices of stainless steel sport watches have risen so dramatically.

For this grail purchase assume the price point i'd like to spend is 21-27k.

Would it make more sense to buy the blue dial stainless steel sky dweller or would it be better to buy a 40mm day date for about 6k more?

I'm just curious what the experts and WIS people think about the better strategy and which one would appreciate more.

Thank you for your consideration.

Neither will appreciate. You'll lose $5K the minute you buy either. Guaranteed. If you buy the Sky at current Grey Market price you're flushing about $7K down the toilet. Buy it because you like it.

I have the DD and Sky. Tough choice between the two---if you had to pick one. I guess go with which one pulls on your heart strings the most.

[Phil t 32]

I think it’s fantastic that everyone has an opinion on what is considered to be a grail, the future value of a particular watch etc etc and have the opportunity to express it on a forum with similarly minded folk.....here’s my opinion....

If you were truly stuck between two pieces being your grail and both watches were put in front of you with no price tags, you were made aware that you would not make a penny as a future investment, but in reality a good chance of getting your money back if needed or, you fell out of love with the watch and wanted to trade, chose the one that makes you think, yes, that IS the one I want.....then part with your hard earned and wear it. As DJ Khalid would say.....know whaam sayin...


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[jimcameron]

Originally Posted by watchguy1234567

I'm just curious what the experts and WIS people think about the better strategy and which one would appreciate more.

Buy both, then you can't go wrong. You'll be sitting on a gold mine.