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View Poll Results: As a one and only....PT Daytona vs Patek 5712/1A
PT Daytona 46 31.94%
Patek 5712/1A 98 68.06%
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Old 2 November 2019, 08:45 AM   #31
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I've never owned a PP (yet), but think Rolex is the king of everyday wearer in terms of durability, robustness, and flexibility. I like the 5712, and would enjoy owning it (not for 1.5-2x MSRP), but would think it 's too delicate and a bit "fancy" for some situations that I wouldn't think twice about wearing a pt. Daytona in.
Yes, it’s delicate compared to the Daytona, but I don’t find it fancy, looks wise, compared to the Daytona
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Platona is great, all Daytonas are great, and so forth. Now, the comparison here is unfair. IMHO there is no watch on earth below the threshold of 100k which comes even close to the 5712. MP, PR, 240 micro-rotor, cool and unusual dial layout... No watch packs as much value and awesomeness as the 5712.


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Platona if it were me... Glad I don't have to make this choice though.
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5712. No question.

Lighter, thinner, more comfortable, relatively understated.
I think it’s more understated as well.

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5712 for its sheer comfort and pleasure to wear.

Platona waaayyyyy too heavy.

I much prefer the 116500 LN for everyday wear (than the platona)
After a short time, I was used to the weight of the Daytona....never really notice it now. Only after wearing SS for a few days do I say “wow” when I pick it back up.

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Since this is only as a thought provoking process then neither suits as a one and only - if I could only have one piece it would need to be a serious complication or real eye candy.
I think the Daytona is more “eye candy” vs the PP
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5712.
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I owned the Platona and it is highly durable and reliable. And will run forever before needing servicing. If those are qualities you prize, then that is your watch. If you like the dial layout and the feel of the 5712, and you want a watch that is currently trendy - please try one on - then go with that.
I’m not sure if the nautilus is “trendy” at this point.....the design, overall, has been popular for a while, and just personal preference at this point. But I agree....the crazy SS Patek prices/trend, may not last in the current frenzied state

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Depends on how you wear your watches.

I have Platona and 5711R.Both are my favourite models from their respective manufacturers.I generally wear the Platona for everyday use-I’m not precious with it at all and after nearly 4 years ownership there are a few small marks here and there but nothing serious-it’s still in pretty good condition.The 5711 I’m really precious with-I only wear it for going out/special occasions etc.It feels dainty-it’s very well made for sure but the 116506 is a much more substantial and rugged watch-the cerachrom bezel will forgive a little misuse whereas the brushed finish on the 5711R will show every mark.I feel that if I wear the 5711R all the time it won’t hold up as well as the Platona for marks and scratches.
Yeah, when that PP bezel gets a mark....it’s definitely noticeable
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Nautilus at retail or a ss or wg Daytona. The PT one is too heavy IMO.
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5712 is way more special and elegant...
In this current state of affairs with SS watches, most will agree with you. I think it’s considered more “special” because of the current market.....elegant is arguable.

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I picked the 5712... I know a guy that has worn it daily for like a decade Still loves it Well maybe not an entire decade
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I’ve owned both of these but currently have the 5712 which is one of my all time favs. That said, no contest for a one and only, has to be the robust Daytona. I loved the weight and I have a chicken wrist


Thanks all...great discussion/responses/opinions
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Old 2 November 2019, 09:11 AM   #32
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Since this is only as a thought provoking process then neither suits as a one and only - if I could only have one piece it would need to be a serious complication or real eye candy.
I own both and neither would be a one and only for me. As others have stated though, the Platona makes more sense in terms of robustness ,but its too heavy for everyday and all activities you might doing when wearing.
5712 wearability in terms of comfort and appearance is off the chart but once again the scratching of the bezel really is tough as an everyday piece.
Two great watches but many other choices as a daily I believe.
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Old 2 November 2019, 09:12 AM   #33
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For me PP 5712 of course…
Daytona is too small for my opinion.
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Old 2 November 2019, 09:37 AM   #34
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For me PP 5712 of course…
Daytona is too small for my opinion.
I found them to wear a very similar, other than the thickness. Actually thought the 5712 wore a bit smaller… Probably because of the Daytona pushers and more polished surfaces.
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I voted for the 5712 because I rank it up there as one of the best Nautilus ever designed.

It also has a date which makes it more suitable as a daily. And has a beautiful display case with the 240 micro rotor.

The platona is a very different watch. Chalk and cheese really.
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Old 2 November 2019, 10:17 AM   #36
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The Pt Daytona’s brown bezel does nothing for me and the dial layout on the 5712 is just a disaster.

How could anyone design a dial like that one?

Chopped indices, missing second markers and a power reserve for a watch that you would have to wind every day when not wearing?

I pass on both.
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Old 2 November 2019, 10:40 AM   #37
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Neither. But if forced to pick, would choose the 5712. Love the blue on the platona but the brown does nothing for me. Date missing and a useless chrono, choice is easy for me. Plus the blue dial on the 5712 is awesome.


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Old 2 November 2019, 12:16 PM   #38
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5980 would be my one and only, soon to be mine 4th and only. Against popular opinion, I don't like the bezel or dial on the Platinum Daytona, much prefer the 5712. My subjective opinion but can't rationalize how you guys say a light blue dial and brown bezel (not a fan) is a versatile color scheme.
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Old 2 November 2019, 03:17 PM   #39
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For me PP 5712 of course…
Daytona is too small for my opinion.
It’s been proven the platona is larger than a SS Daytona. The size is just fine.
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It’s been proven the platona is larger than a SS Daytona. The size is just fine.
Maybe it's just my feeling when I wear a Daytona... but I prefer biggest watches, for this reason my favorite one is . . 5726.
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Old 2 November 2019, 08:43 PM   #41
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I love the 5712. I own a 5711 and couldn't be without one modern nautilus (ideally), but as a one and only, I would go Platona without a doubt.
Sure the 5712 is capable to handle alot, but we can't deny that the scuffs do take away from the beauty of the brushed bezel. I do wear my 5711 often and don't mind the minor scuffs, but could not imagine how it would look if it was a daily wear for everything and alll occasions.
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Old 2 November 2019, 09:04 PM   #42
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I voted 5712 as the Platona doesn't do much for me. Of course there will be lots of scratches when wearing a 5712 everywhere and all the time, but a banged up Nautilus is still beautiful in my eyes - only the stage between mint and banged up is difficult.
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Dated 70’s design PP vs. dated 70’s sized Rolex


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Old 3 November 2019, 03:20 AM   #44
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5712a hands down, and I really like the Plat Daytona.

Then spend a few hundred and get a G shock or something similar (diver/beater).
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Just sharing - the folks at the Rolex forum preferred the platona 51% to 5712 49%.

Platona wins.
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Old 3 November 2019, 10:08 AM   #46
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Just sharing - the folks at the Rolex forum preferred the platona 51% to 5712 49%.

Platona wins.
No real answers... Patek forum 5712 wins.... Rolex forum order Platona...... I think you should talk more with owners/previous owners of both before you make a decision. Not just guys who has one or the other.
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No real answers... Patek forum 5712 wins.... Rolex forum order Platona...... I think you should talk more with owners/previous owners of both before you make a decision. Not just guys who has one or the other.


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Just sharing - the folks at the Rolex forum preferred the platona 51% to 5712 49%.

Platona wins.
Yes, very close on the Rolex forum.

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No real answers... Patek forum 5712 wins.... Rolex forum order Platona...... I think you should talk more with owners/previous owners of both before you make a decision. Not just guys who has one or the other.
Agreed! Not a surprising result for either forum, but closer than I would’ve expected from the Rolex forum.
There’s no wrong answer IMO....both have pros and cons, both are fantastic watches!
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Old 3 November 2019, 11:44 AM   #50
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5712 for me.

Admittedly, I just don't get the platona.

I don't really love the ice blue face...
I don't have a strong feeling for the color of the bezel...
I really don't like the weight...

I have the WG daytona on bracelet, and that's at the max of what feels comfortable. The idea of having something 50% heavier than that, to me, is just way beyond anything I would ever want to wear even occasionally.
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Yes, very close on the Rolex forum.


Agreed! Not a surprising result for either forum, but closer than I would’ve expected from the Rolex forum.
There’s no wrong answer IMO....both have pros and cons, both are fantastic watches!

Very close indeed! Do you still own both Richard? Looking at a picture of both side by side on your wrist would be nice
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Very close indeed! Do you still own both Richard? Looking at a picture of both side by side on your wrist would be nice
I wouldn’t wear either one as a daily, and at minimum I’d have a SubC to go along with. I don’t know that I’m ready to be a single watch guy. I’ve never taken a pick of two side by side because the angles and placement of one of them on the wrist, always distorts one or the other, IMO.
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I wouldn’t wear either one as a daily, and at minimum I’d have a SubC to go along with. I don’t know that I’m ready to be a single watch guy. I’ve never taken a pick of two side by side because the angles and placement of one of them on the wrist, always distorts one or the other, IMO.

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I went 5712. I do not think of it as "dainty" Its more robust than you think, but its not for swimming due to the correctors. Both watches are scratch magnets. if that is a concern get a DD.
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One and only, Platona because of its versatility and ability to handle pool days with less concern.

But, don’t discount the platinum DD40 to trump them both as a one and only!!


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