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Old 4 May 2020, 09:32 AM   #31
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I thought I saw it on a GMT avenger too..
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Old 4 May 2020, 09:58 AM   #32
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2 time zones are sufficient. Before this virus, I crossed time zones every week and the painted hand on home time was always useful. It’s a simple and useful complication.


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Old 4 May 2020, 10:14 AM   #33
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You prefer a fixed bezel over a rotating bezel? Mmmh. Makes perfect sense. No need to expound.
Maybe you have heard sarcasm often doesn’t translate via text?

The explorer II has a 24 hour hand that reads home time as it aligns w the fixed bezel. On newer models the 12 hour hand is independently adjustable vs the original GMT designs that depended on the rotating bezel to indicate the second time zone.
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Old 4 May 2020, 05:59 PM   #34
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Maybe you have heard sarcasm often doesn’t translate via text?

On newer models the 12 hour hand is independently adjustable vs the original GMT designs that depended on the rotating bezel to indicate the second time zone.
The early Explorer 2s (1655) had a fixed 24 hour hand as well. But I get your point.


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Old 5 May 2020, 04:28 AM   #35
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Maybe you have heard sarcasm often doesn’t translate via text?

The explorer II has a 24 hour hand that reads home time as it aligns w the fixed bezel. On newer models the 12 hour hand is independently adjustable vs the original GMT designs that depended on the rotating bezel to indicate the second time zone.
Thanks for expounding after all.

I got it now. You’d rather have an Explorer II than a GMT-Master 6542, 1675, 16750, or 16700. Makes sense!
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Old 5 May 2020, 04:44 AM   #36
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You prefer a fixed bezel over a rotating bezel? Mmmh. Makes perfect sense. No need to expound.
Fixed bezel has the advantage of one less rotating part to get dirt/crud/sand. And if you only need two time zones, the rotating part isn't necessary.

I would also prefer a rotating bezel, as it's easier to rotate the bezel for a new timezone than having to unscrew the crown and adjust the hour hand, but can see the advantage of fixed.
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Old 5 May 2020, 06:10 AM   #37
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3 zones with mental math once you know what each 24hr plot means.
With mental math, every watch is multiple time zones.

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Old 5 May 2020, 06:17 AM   #38
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At a glance it shows two, GMT and local time depending on where the bezel is set.

By rotating the bezel to another position it will show a differing, 3rd time zone.

You could argue that each click of the bezel will show a differing time zone making the total time zones available a lot more than three, but on face value it is only two.
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Old 5 May 2020, 06:34 AM   #39
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3 zones with mental math once you know what each 24hr plot means.
To me this mental math is literally more difficult than simply doing the time zone math to begin with. That's why I'm adamant that the GMT-Master II does *not* show 3 time zones. It's 2 in my book.
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Old 5 May 2020, 06:55 AM   #40
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Useless to those who don’t use it. Totally understandable.
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Old 5 May 2020, 07:15 AM   #41
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Fixed bezel has the advantage of one less rotating part to get dirt/crud/sand. And if you only need two time zones, the rotating part isn't necessary.

I would also prefer a rotating bezel, as it's easier to rotate the bezel for a new timezone than having to unscrew the crown and adjust the hour hand, but can see the advantage of fixed.
Taking a moment to Adjust the hour hand is a long standing favorite ritual while flying into the new Timezone.
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Old 5 May 2020, 07:16 AM   #42
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The early Explorer 2s (1655) had a fixed 24 hour hand as well. But I get your point.


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Those would have only shown a single timezone with 24 hr indicator.
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Old 5 May 2020, 11:04 AM   #43
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Those would have only shown a single timezone with 24 hr indicator.

Agreed!


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