Do You Like the 40th Pieces?

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by AK797

Without the large dial text they would be fine, there is nearly always a knee jerk reaction to new models coming out and that tends to soften once members actually see and buy the watches, the Platona being a prime example with a lot of initial disdain for the brown, so this is no real surprise as the dial text and diamonds were not ever really asked for here.

Ah, yes - the Pootona.

[brmeyers]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Courtesy of Patekaholic. In the metal

Nice picture, anniversary date looks more subtle in this shot compared to some others.
I like this new 5711p providing the date is fairly subtle and not too conspicuous.
(I don't mind the diamond markers because I think they are tastefully done)
I voted wait and see, but I have a feeling I'll like the 5711p.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Ah that's naughty as you should put the photo owners bsnrbsg leadtvasca rsg! The question was mine which he hadn't answered. So that in itself is an answer!

I think i was saying "photo owners hashtag"....

[topcat30093]

Originally Posted by codecow

I was at my AD yesterday, zero orders for the chrono, one order for the platinum.

I spoke with my AD last week, he said that they had at least 20 serious requests from long term customers/collectors regarding the anniversary pieces.

When I mentioned the negative response on the various forums, he just laughed, I guess business is business.

Visited another dealer last week,they also said that they had 5-6 requests for their names to be put forward.

[topcat30093]

Originally Posted by conkers

It is a great shame the non Rolex parts of this forum have increasingly descended into rudeness and personal slights. Certainly a good reason to particate less going forward.

Roger, fully agree:thumbs:

A bit likes moths flying around a light bulb!

[conkers]

My AD claims they have submitted a very long list of interested parties, and he has no reason to lie to me.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by conkers

My AD claims they have submitted a very long list of interested parties, and he has no reason to lie to me.

Hope this time you are luckier than the 175th!!

[jonathan17]

Originally Posted by conkers

My AD claims they have submitted a very long list of interested parties, and he has no reason to lie to me.

I think roger in asia there is alot of interest specially in Indonesia, lots of friends there prefer diamonds on watches so this is a big hit.

Singapore i was told also has a high demand of interest for both ref but mostly for the 5711P 40th.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by topcat30093

I spoke with my AD last week, he said that they had at least 20 serious requests from long term customers/collectors regarding the anniversary pieces.

When I mentioned the negative response on the various forums, he just laughed, I guess business is business.

Visited another dealer last week,they also said that they had 5-6 requests for their names to be put forward.

Originally Posted by conkers

My AD claims they have submitted a very long list of interested parties, and he has no reason to lie to me.

Good to know

Said it from day one
Nice Watches just to many old fashioned guys complaining too much

;-)

[texex91]

Originally Posted by unknown

Good to know

Said it from day one
Nice Watches just to many old fashioned guys complaining too much

;-)

So Bruno did you jump in

[Lordofrolex]

I personally like it. Its moving with the bigger size watch trend. I personally have a smaller wrist so I'm totally ok with going with the original but have nothing against the new nautilus.


I really like the blue of the dial and I'm the type of guy that wouldn't shy away from diamonds on the right piece.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by texex91

So Bruno did you jump in

Your third option. ...... Wait to see

[lapince]

Originally Posted by conkers

My AD claims they have submitted a very long list of interested parties, and he has no reason to lie to me.

Mine too, more demands for the 5711P but for the 5976 as well...

[texex91]

Originally Posted by unknown

Your third option. ...... Wait to see

[JorgeCCW]

I like them , I just think they are not worth it. At that price point, there are better choices
IMHO

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

I like them , I just think they are not worth it. At that price point, there are better choices
IMHO

You certainly can get a PC at this level. How does the price differ from original 5711P without the extra diamonds, gold dial and the extra embossing? I heard $90 000....

The after VAT price in the UK will be circa $86 000 for the 40th which is a similar pricing level (if my figures above are correct)...

Lot of money for a Nautilus in any event (I forgot the diamond speck you get at 6 0 clock)

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by KarlS

You certainly can get a PC at this level. How does the price differ from original 5711P without the extra diamonds, gold dial and the extra embossing? I heard $90 000....

The after VAT price in the UK will be circa $86 000 for the 40th which is a similar pricing level (if my figures above are correct)...

Lot of money for a Nautilus in any event (I forgot the diamond speck you get at 6 0 clock)

Well to me the essence of Patek relies on the dressy complicated watches, I love Nautilus, I owe one; but I can't put my head around paying Complications money on sport watches. That's my humble opinion, of course you don't have to agree with me. But is also true that no matter how you can justify paying all this money on a Nautilus, I can't follow that logic.

It makes more sense for a season collector that already have his quota of complicated watches and want something different and has the money to spare. Again this is IMHO because at the end you buy what makes you happy
Cheers !

[conkers]

Originally Posted by jonathan17

I think roger in asia there is alot of interest specially in Indonesia, lots of friends there prefer diamonds on watches so this is a big hit.

Singapore i was told also has a high demand of interest for both ref but mostly for the 5711P 40th.

Quite possibly Jon but my name is down in the UK. After the total lack of proactivity from my AD in Asia on my 5131 and the 175th requests I have switched allegiance.

Does this make me any more optimistic for my chances? No, since Patek have done nothing for me whatsoever to suggest they value my business.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Well to me the essence of Patek relies on the dressy complicated watches, I love Nautilus, I owe one; but I can't put my head around paying Complications money on sport watches. That's my humble opinion, of course you don't have to agree with me. But is also true that no matter how you can justify paying all this money on a Nautilus, I can't follow that logic.

It makes more sense for a season collector that already have his quota of complicated watches and want something different and has the money to spare. Again this is IMHO because at the end you buy what makes you happy
Cheers !

Certainly an interesting price point for a Nautilus. I have absolutely not concept of the various assembly times of a movement and the time to make the parts involved but a very quick comparison shows 213 parts in the Nautilus Calibre 324 compared to say 239 parts in the WT Calibre 240 HU and 275 parts in the PC 240 Q.
So the difference is 213 parts compared to 275 parts. A meaningless comparison I know but nevertheless interesting. At this level the price reflects far more than simply the watch functions - an obvious statement since many manufacturers make complicated watches at a fraction of the Patek price.
I would also suggest the Nautilus range (any of them) has now moved far beyond being a simple sports watch and the styling does mean it works for both dress up and dress down occasions - part of it's appeal. As always, the proof will be in the pudding but I am a big fan of the 5711P based on the pictures and contrary to most I love the dial design.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by conkers

Quite possibly Jon but my name is down in the UK. After the total lack of proactivity from my AD in Asia on my 5131 and the 175th requests I have switched allegiance.

Does this make me any more optimistic for my chances? No, since Patek have done nothing for me whatsoever to suggest they value my business.

I think with your recent incoming I wouldn't worry about not getting an allocation! Your AD would be sure to push!!

[Jetkopite]

Had the pleasure of meeting the new PP 5976 last night.. We had a vintage Rolex watch event here in Dubai and one collector as he walked in I spotted this beast.. I have to say my impression was as I thought before seeing it.. Stunning looking watch but it's hefty and large, way too large for me.. The engraving isn't too noticeable.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by Jetkopite

Had the pleasure of meeting the new PP 5976 last night.. We had a vintage Rolex watch event here in Dubai and one collector as he walked in I spotted this beast.. I have to say my impression was as I thought before seeing it.. Stunning looking watch but it's hefty and large, way too large for me.. The engraving isn't too noticeable.

I NEVER thought I'd say this, but it almost looks too big? Maybe it's the angle on the pic and they way it's laying on your wrist.

Great catch BTW

[Jetkopite]

That's not on my wrist but a friends as I took that... It is big for sure but that blue dial is stunning as I expected it to be...

[texex91]

Originally Posted by Jetkopite

That's not on my wrist but a friends as I took that... It is big for sure but that blue dial is stunning as I expected it to be...

Yeah I bet sized on the wrist it's probably much better.

Will be very interested if they introduce a similar size none LE at Baselworld.

[RussW]

Looks great, but possibly too big. Going by that photo the 5711 should be amazing

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Certainly an interesting price point for a Nautilus. I have absolutely not concept of the various assembly times of a movement and the time to make the parts involved but a very quick comparison shows 213 parts in the Nautilus Calibre 324 compared to say 239 parts in the WT Calibre 240 HU and 275 parts in the PC 240 Q.

So the difference is 213 parts compared to 275 parts. A meaningless comparison I know but nevertheless interesting. At this level the price reflects far more than simply the watch functions - an obvious statement since many manufacturers make complicated watches at a fraction of the Patek price.

I would also suggest the Nautilus range (any of them) has now moved far beyond being a simple sports watch and the styling does mean it works for both dress up and dress down occasions - part of it's appeal. As always, the proof will be in the pudding but I am a big fan of the 5711P based on the pictures and contrary to most I love the dial design.

Interesting rationale, I guess if you allocate number of parts , time of manufacturing, evolution of the sport watch , etc ; Then you can quickly validate their pricing.
But the intangible factor is the one in question here and yes is a subjective one, and that is how the individual perceives the brand (in this case the individual is me, lol) and their position in the horology world. I supposed you can say that my perception is the barrier here and you will be right on that one ; because yes to me Patek is conceived different in my mind, I allocate more value to a dressy complicated watch than a Nautilus that probably has as much job and/or parts in the making. Again this is intangible and subjective.




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[Jetkopite]

Originally Posted by RussW

Looks great, but possibly too big. Going by that photo the 5711 should be amazing

I think the 5711P will look and feel amazing after seeing that last night, but that price for a sports model is crazy..

[KarlS]

Good spot Andy. Now we know they are in the wild!

[Jetkopite]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Good spot Andy. Now we know they are in the wild!

Well this particular collector is so high up the food chain I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Stern presented it to him at the launch, there is nothing he cannot get.... He has every Patek made and most of the one offs has ended up to him... Very humble and down to earth guy who loves his watches..

[texex91]

One has landed in SG as well https://www.instagram.com/phenixist/