A word of advice: Grab the SS Sub-date 16610 while you can!!

[Evan614]

Originally Posted by Evan614

On this site there ain't much of discount either. I've seen new 16610 going for $5700. That is only 5% discount.

then

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

I guess that would also depend on the seller. You could get lucky with some AD if he's prepared to give you 10%.......but that would be pushing it for this model.

JJ

I think 10% would be pushing it too. BUT 5% is only saving $300 and if someone bought it here... they typically sell a filled out warranty card. I'd rather pay full price and have the warranty card in my name. $300 savings is not enough to justify losing out on the warranty.
I'd say 8% should be an easy goal if they have the watch in stock.

[mborner]

I'll be honest, I paid $3,200 for my 16610 in 1995. I see them going for $4,500-$4,900 Mine is mint! BTW, it's *not* for sale.

[multimedia]

Well, I guess one will never know what the future will hold, and we can debate the price fluctuation for ever and ever...

Here are two examples. In 1971, a Daytona in Sweden would take you back 1.275 SEK = $175 , The GMT 1.255 SEK = $172

We all know what today's prices are. (yes and I know, inflation etc...which by the way is 444% between Jan. 1971 to Jan. 2010 - in the US that is)

Cheers,
Joe

[Johny]

hi this is a great thread which i am enjoying very much. i am also enjoying the forum as well.i thought save money and buy a watch and that would be it but you get all of this as well....great stuff. johny.

[t e x]

Originally Posted by 4 Ranges

What masterkiller said. The gmt's would be in a different statehad Rolex offered pepsi/coke I ceramic.

I always buy grey market anyway, so mint makes me happy.

...sure would love one with the 3186 in it!

regrading the 16610 and the LV. there will always be an affinity for these subs and there won't be any shortages for one to desire one. me thinks that there will indeed be a pop in pricing with the advantage going to any of the lv series

[jets]

My AD has two left and hes says they'll be the last. LV and sub-date.

[B. Doggy]

It will be interesting to see....

[scooba]

Why dont we do a group buy ??. My AD would love the buisness in sterling they are £3200, on my calculations that just under $5k

I dont know shipping costs and any duty on port of entry but let me know

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by scooba

Why dont we do a group buy ??. My AD would love the buisness in sterling they are £3200, on my calculations that just under $5k

I dont know shipping costs and any duty on port of entry but let me know

£3200 is big discount. They won't have many....if they cant sell sub dates they shouldnt be in business.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by scooba

Why dont we do a group buy ??. My AD would love the buisness in sterling they are £3200, on my calculations that just under $5k

I dont know shipping costs and any duty on port of entry but let me know

I've said it before, I'll say it again. That is one of the BEST prices ever for a brand new 16610.........almost too good to be true.

And I can imagine how much more savings would be available, if the buyer took the watch out of your country, picked it up at Customs, TAX FREE and got his 17% (?) VAT back??!!

[multimedia]

I'm on the next plain! Now, where is this AD located?





Cheers,
Joe

[h3rt3q]

interesting...

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by multimedia

I'm on the next plain! Now, where is this AD located?





Cheers,
Joe

Not so plain and simple, buddy!!

[Earl Camembert]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

And I can imagine how much more savings would be available, if the buyer took the watch out of your country, picked it up at Customs, TAX FREE and got his 17% (?) VAT back??!!

Don't try this in Canada; they don't give the VAT back anymore.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Earl Camembert

Don't try this in Canada; they don't give the VAT back anymore.

Well, that guy scooba is in the UK. I'm pretty sure they still have the system of recovering your VAT at the airport.

Why has Canada stopped this.........and what purpose does VAT serve to a foreigner visiting your country on a holiday and shopping spree?

[TheDude]

Originally Posted by multimedia

Well, I guess one will never know what the future will hold, and we can debate the price fluctuation for ever and ever...

Here are two examples. In 1971, a Daytona in Sweden would take you back 1.275 SEK = $175 , The GMT 1.255 SEK = $172

We all know what today's prices are. (yes and I know, inflation etc...which by the way is 444% between Jan. 1971 to Jan. 2010 - in the US that is)

Cheers,
Joe

Production volumes were -MUCH- lower back then. Most agree that watches from recent decades aren't likely to have the wild jumps in value that the old ones have enjoyed.

[t e x]

Originally Posted by Evan614

then


I think 10% would be pushing it too. BUT 5% is only saving $300 and if someone bought it here... they typically sell a filled out warranty card. I'd rather pay full price and have the warranty card in my name. $300 savings is not enough to justify losing out on the warranty.
I'd say 8% should be an easy goal if they have the watch in stock.

What would you say if you had a chance to buy it here on the TRF with the time piece BNIB, dropped shipped from the AD with the warranty card stamped, filled out in your name and dated with a savings of $1500 plus?

[multimedia]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Not so plain and simple, buddy!!

Oh thank you very much dear headmaster for correcting my sloppy use of the mighty English language.


Oh great, I see your PLANE has just arrived.




Cheers,
Joe

[Earl Camembert]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Well, that guy scooba is in the UK. I'm pretty sure they still have the system of recovering your VAT at the airport.

Why has Canada stopped this.........and what purpose does VAT serve to a foreigner visiting your country on a holiday and shopping spree?

It does me the visitor no good but it pays for Canada's socialized medicine. The sad thing is if I get hurt in Canada I'm not covered and my private insurance will not cover me out of the US of A.

Originally Posted by multimedia

Pokémon got to get them all; I don't have the one up by the pilot’s window.

[emoney]

Originally Posted by Oyster Al

Would the rolexrolexrolex rehaute have any collectibility on the last couple of series to differentiate from the many previous series?

I'm wondering since the Z series sub is the last of the 16610 models which has desirable upgrades such as the solid end links, and the no holes case design but without the rolexrolexrolex rehaute (which some people find distracting), might give it an edge over the more recent editions in terms of collectability. That's my hope anyway.

[4000 feet]

My 2c Buy the 16610 if you want it and like it. Collectability . So many years of production and subtle variations that the collector community will ultimatly decide what if any 16610 is collectable. Right now think of it as a great watch and buy and wear one in good health.

[rolexcd]

Just asked some ADs in Hong Kong and most of them still have stock of the 16610. Again, they should be pleased to offer 8% discount as for the other models. Grey dealers some put up their prices a bit and you can get one easily at HKD50,000 (apprximately USD5,000). However, I heard that brand new 14060s are disappearing quick. May be, it is not a hot seller in Hong Kong anyway.

[multimedia]

Originally Posted by rolexcd

get one easily at HKD50,000 (apprximately USD5,000).

Don't want to be one of "those people" (what ever that means? )
But HKD50,000 is more like $6400

Cheers,
Joe

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by multimedia

Don't want to be one of "those people" (what ever that means? )
But HKD50,000 is more like $6400

Cheers,
Joe

My thoughts exactly. US$1 = HK$7.80

JJ

[ckcspice]

i m glad i just bought my 16610 last saturday then...loving it more everyday...if i get more $$, i will then get the 116610...not really concerned bout their $$ value...i intend for them 2 b keepers n passed on 2 the next generation...cheers

[spuds]

Originally Posted by ckcspice

...not really concerned bout their $$ value...i intend for them 2 b keepers n passed on 2 the next generation...cheers

Best attitude to have mate! & Congrat's on the Sub'....

[Carlos98326194]

Grey dealer for 50,000hkd? Now that is too much imho!
You can easily get it at 40,940hkd or approximately 5,200usd at any Roled AD in HK.

[rkim11]

Hearing these prices I'm getting a little worried...I bought a D in 3/06 for $4200 including tax from an AD. Now I know the 16610's have gone up in price since then but mine retailed for $4895 before tax I believe which is like a 20% discount...hoping the watch is real...Got it from a reputable place though.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by rkim11

Hearing these prices I'm getting a little worried...I bought a D in 3/06 for $4200 including tax from an AD. Now I know the 16610's have gone up in price since then but mine retailed for $4895 before tax I believe which is like a 20% discount...hoping the watch is real...Got it from a reputable place though.

Hi buddy,

It's funny you should be asking this question after owning the watch for 4 long years.

If you've purchased it from a Rolex AD, you have nothing to worry about. However, if you wish to post some nice close-up pics of the watch, maybe we can help.

Cheers - JJ

[ersnyder]

... Let's call it the "LVc"[/QUOTE]

Yes, I DO want the "LVc"!!!