Baselworld 2013 teaser

[wesleyvs]

Originally Posted by GerardoG

I will agree on the two tone or new tone ceramic BUT, knwing Rolex's past history, I say we are looking at a WG version. Basel releases from Rolex on new models are always on prime metals, SS models are introduced later.

they only did it 3 times ;)

before the SS versions where first and gold later and last year they came with new SS YM first instead of the YG.

cheers

[Speed]

You are agreeing with a brand new model Gerardo?

[GerardoG]

Originally Posted by Speed

You are agreeing with a brand new model Gerardo?

I would say gmt ceramic in precious metal or something completely new and different

[Speed]

Ah.. May be a toss up for GMT / new color. I think if it is just a new color insert...it would be steel. All new watch - then Yes YG vs white...but I prefer white!

[JerseyGuy]

Or maybe 42mm sub with PCL

[Speed]

Hmm. I don't think Rolex would add to the Sub line

[Speed]

Not if its just a new insert

[~dadam02~]

Originally Posted by Speed

Not if its just a new insert

OP had stated 42mm which would surely qualify it to a new version, i.e. GMTIII?

[jlc123]

I would bet that its a SS YM2.

[patek.wis]

It would be funny if it was just another bling sub or GMT and got all crazy over nothing

[Speed]

Originally Posted by ~dadam02~

OP had stated 42mm which would surely qualify it to a new version, i.e. GMTIII?

Ah right. Sorry.

Perhaps. It's just that the GMTIIc hasn't not been around that long - by Rolex standards.

[~dadam02~]

Originally Posted by Speed

Ah right. Sorry.

Perhaps. It's just that the GMTIIc hasn't not been around that long - by Tolwx standards.

Which in my mind makes it even the more unlikely that we'll see any real update to this model, apart from maybe a dial/bezel change. I just don't see it, but we'll find out soon enough.

[Speed]

Agree. If the GMT is updated - insert only.

[MP5]

Well, the lugs seem to look a bit better too

[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by MP5

Well, the lugs seem to look a bit better too

Agreed. It would be a bonus if they taper the lugs but keep it at 40mm. GMT has a tad more elegance to it as a pilot's/traveler's watch (which is why I don't mind the PCLs).

The Explorer II is more outdoorsy, designed to be maximally readable which is why the 42mm size seems appropriate. Also Rolex has clearly given you an option already if you want a GMT watch at 42mm or you desire a white dial.

[Ravager135]

I agree with a lot of what has been said above. I am actually holding out on a bi-color SS GMTIIC at 40mm. I think the green GMTIIC has run its course as it's supposed to be an anniversary piece. It's time to go back to the original configuration of the GMT albeit in an updated model. I don't see them releasing the GMTIIC in platinum. It's just a metal that has never been used in the past on the GMT and makes this unlikely (though not impossible).

I am putting my hopes into an understanding of Rolex history. My presumptions are the green GMTIIC was only a temporary release (like the LV Sub) and now if you want the GMTIIC you are going to get it back in its original configuration (not sure how many bezel configurations they will do).

[agfebres]

GMTII-C/42mm would be a winner in my book, not a fan of PCLs but I'd pull the trigger in a heartbeat for a bigger case on this particular Rolex model!

[jason427]

Originally Posted by agfebres

GMTII-C/42mm would be a winner in my book, not a fan of PCLs but I'd pull the trigger in a heartbeat for a bigger case on this particular Rolex model!

What are you smokin? They just re-did that not too far back. Subs/Gmt/Exp will not change.

Only thing left is Daytona....

Jason

[technik1]

I think the GMT C was 2007 or 08. What's wrong with an evolution or update to a 42mm case to keep it in line with the EXP 42, Sky Dweller etc. Even the Day date and Datejust is 41 mm now. It's only fitting the sport models have islightly more presence than the dressier DD and DJ. In my view the Sub should evolve to 42mm also.

There are smaller cases for smaller wrists like the 39mm Exp I.

[~dadam02~]

Originally Posted by technik1

I think the GMT C was 2007 or 08. What's wrong with an evolution or update to a 42mm case to keep it in line with the EXP 42, Sky Dweller etc. Even the Day date and Datejust is 41 mm now. It's only fitting the sport models have islightly more presence than the dressier DD and DJ. In my view the Sub should evolve to 42mm also.

There are smaller cases for smaller wrists like the 39mm Exp I.

I don't get this, why on earth would they have just updated the Sub and not blown it up over the 41mm+ mark if there entire range has just gone through the same process?

[technik1]

Originally Posted by ~dadam02~

I don't get this, why on earth would they have just updated the Sub and not blown it up over the 41mm+ mark if there entire range has just gone through the same process?

The reality is, I think, Rolex is a high volume luxury brand. And Milgauss, GMTs, and yes even the iconic Sub has not sold as anticipated for them. The ADs are over stocked it seems. Maybe they regret not launching the GMT C and Sub C with a 42 case and they're now revamping across the sport line.

[agfebres]

Originally Posted by jason427

What are you smokin? They just re-did that not too far back. Subs/Gmt/Exp will not change.

Only thing left is Daytona....

Jason

FYI.....GMT Master II / ref.116710 was updated and released 2007 over the outgoing ref.16710.

SUB / ref.16610LV (kermit) was released 2003, production ended in 2010....

Rolex is unpredictable!

[patek.wis]

Originally Posted by agfebres

FYI.....GMT Master II / ref.116710 was updated and released 2007 over the outgoing ref.16710.

SUB / ref.16610LV (kermit) was released 2003, production ended in 2010....

Rolex is unpredictable!

But that was part of an overall product line overhaul of the sub

That's not the case this time

[Speed]

What about the teaser pic with serrated bezel?

[00pumpkin]

It’s either some form of GMTII or a brand new model, period. The triplock crown with the same size dots tell me that its a SS model.

I pray that it’s a Pepsi GMTIIC but it’s probably just going to be a special model with a green bezel to match the green gmt hand. They figure since people liked the original LV so much that this scheme will sell.

Either way, I cant wait to find out for sure.

[Cru Jones]

GMT Master III at 42 with red ceramic bezel and red hand?

Full bordeaux red bezel ---- bi-color bezel still not technically feasible/practicable.

Remember the ruby red patent application posted a while back?

[Duey]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

GMT Master III at 42 with red ceramic bezel and red hand?

Full bordeaux red bezel ---- bi-color bezel still not technically feasible/practicable.

Remember the ruby red patent application posted a while back?

The patents are the key things I think too.. Ruby Red bezel is one.

Don't forget the Rubber Strap patent too .

I think we'll see a Sub on a Rubber strap too.

[The Rolexiest]

The red/Bordeaux seems fair since they launched with Tudor last year!.... Still Ve a feeling for the Pepsi

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

GMT Master III at 42 with red ceramic bezel and red hand?

Full bordeaux red bezel ---- bi-color bezel still not technically feasible/practicable.

Remember the ruby red patent application posted a while back?

i'm still sticking with this one......should know in maybe 15 minutes or so?

although, considering the size of the lugs with the 21 bracelet, it wouldn't shock me to see the GMT Master III at 44 (exp2 has 21 bracelet, and the lugs are smoother).

[patek.wis]

This is going to be good