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EchoBlueUK · 28 January 2011, 10:59 PM

...or are they too similar to justify a purchase?

Hydrographer · 28 January 2011, 11:05 PM

I have asked myself this same question a lot recently. I guess the answer is, if you want it buy it. im gonna wait until after Basel to see if rolex have sorted out the bicoloured bezel issues, and if they have I will pick up a GMT IIc with a pepsi besel, thats plenty diferent from the sub. Especialy with the PCL's

esm · 28 January 2011, 11:05 PM

yes and no.

to non WIS - yes.

to WIS - no (PCL, bezel font style, 24hr hand)

EDIT:

picture tells a thousand words....

(diffreent colour lume too

)

train-time · 28 January 2011, 11:14 PM

Probably not.

JJL · 28 January 2011, 11:17 PM

Yes kind of - the way I look at it is if you only have one watch (Sub) - and youre thinking about getting a second, why get one that looks so similar to the one you already have?

I only say this because there are so many other awesome models that look totally different different (ie YM, Daytona, DJ/DD, Polar Exp, etc....) or even a TT for that matter.

However, if you already have a huge diverse watch collection then I wouldn't say it's an issue.

tfduff723 · 28 January 2011, 11:22 PM

Absolutely but in reverse! I have a GMT IIC but plan on getting a Sub C at somepoint.

As the excellent picture above clearly shows they are different watches. They are similar at 1st glance but certainly very different upon further review.

psv · 28 January 2011, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrographer

I have asked myself this same question a lot recently. I guess the answer is, if you want it buy it. im gonna wait until after Basel to see if rolex have sorted out the bicoloured bezel issues, and if they have I will pick up a GMT IIc with a pepsi besel, thats plenty diferent from the sub. Especialy with the PCL's

+1.

At this point I wouldn't. If so, get a used GMT Pepsi or a 1675.

jldc · 28 January 2011, 11:29 PM

If they appeal to you I would consider an older GMT with a Pepsi or Coke bezel (or even an Explorer II). If not, then I say go for it. Lots of people (on TRF at least) have two different Subs - surely they're even more similar than a Sub and a GMT. Look at it this way: Likely, you will be the only one who even notices your watch, so do whatever floats your boat.

L

Singslinger · 28 January 2011, 11:31 PM

Yes, I have a friend who has both.

Myself, I have a TT Sub C (black) and am planning to get the GMT IIc soon...

Cru Jones · 28 January 2011, 11:37 PM

No, but mostly because I like the SubC so much more......if a 24-hour hand is important, I prefer the Explorer II to the GMTIIC....

dooder202 · 28 January 2011, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

...or are they too similar to justify a purchase?

I would get the TT GMTc. They are a knockout in person, seriously gorgeous looking watch!

dooder202 · 28 January 2011, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Singslinger

Yes, I have a friend who has both.

Myself, I have a TT Sub C (black) and am planning to get the GMT IIc soon...

TT Sub C's in black are awesome looking too! Picts please?

cedargrove · 28 January 2011, 11:47 PM

I have the GMT IIC, and would still buy both, however would want some obvious visual differences; either the LV, or possibly a bi-colour ceramic for the GMT one day.

dddrees · 28 January 2011, 11:52 PM

I had a GMTIIC and I had a hard time justifying a SubC. I did very much want a SUB so I got a 16610LV because the latest version with the green dial just didn't suit me..

esm · 29 January 2011, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cedargrove

I have the GMT IIC, and would still buy both, however would want some obvious visual differences; either the LV, or possibly a bi-colour ceramic for the GMT one day.

good thinking 99... in that case, how about a 116710LN and a 116610LV?

Boadicea · 29 January 2011, 12:09 AM

I dont own either, but I have been trying to get a Sub for a while now (I keep walking out with somthing else every time I go in). I think that If I had a GMT2, I would probably want a SubC as well, but if it was the other way around, I would probably not get the GMT2.

For me, it is to do with the heritage of the Sub. If I am honest with myself, I will always want one, but probably not because I like it (if that makes sense).

SC11 · 29 January 2011, 12:31 AM

I've had the same dilemma !

I just find them both to similar to warrant it being my second watch, it has the pull my Sub had but think I could do with something different but along the same lines if you get what I mean.

In hind sight I think a better decision for me would of been a Sub LV and a GMT !

Holding out hope on a upgraded YM this year :-)

Sam

tanndonn · 29 January 2011, 12:36 AM

The only thing from stopping me from having at least one of everything is the $$$$. I would have both if possible. Currently, my 2 'necessities' are a 16610 lv and a GMT II Pepsi, much the same as your question.

tdnt · 29 January 2011, 01:10 AM

I sometimes asked myself the reverse question "I already have a SS GMT, would I want a SS Submariner?". I have answered that question for myself....YES!!! (but I'd prefer the pre-ceramic models)

AIKO · 29 January 2011, 01:43 AM

No, too similar.

Engi · 29 January 2011, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esm

yes and no.

to non WIS - yes.

to WIS - no (PCL, bezel font style, 24hr hand)

EDIT:

picture tells a thousand words....

(diffreent colour lume too

)

I was in your same position the last summer, when I was deciding if to go or not with the SubC.

I contacted Eric and saw his pic here above and then I took the decision: the SubC is different enough form the GMTIIC so I needed the SubC ...

Now I've bought it and I can tell you that they are really different watches (also from a visual point of view), fulfilling different needs, so my suggestion is go for it

Ciao

Engi

MortgageGuy · 29 January 2011, 02:16 AM

Well I have had 3 at one time...let me explain. I have the GMT IIc, had the Sub C LV and the Sub C LN... The sub LN and the GMT were too similar for my taste and to justify the expense so away the Sub C went... As for the LV, it was too green with the dial and bezel, a beautiful watch but not for me so that went too

Good Luck

slcbbrown · 29 January 2011, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

...or are they too similar to justify a purchase?

I would not do it as a second Rolex. If I bought a few others and wanted to have the GMT just to fill out a collection, maybe. There are plenty of others to buy that don't look just like the Sub.

I might swap the Sub for a ss GMT so I could have the bezel-switching option, though.

EchoBlueUK · 29 January 2011, 03:32 AM

thanks for your views everyone. does anyone have any more pics of side by side comparisons? thanks in advance.

RRGHOST1 · 29 January 2011, 07:18 AM

Too similar IMO. The thing that anoys me with the GMT is the green hand and i wish there was a choice of coloured dials like the Sub. If you got the LV it would be more different to the GMTc.

vuhuynh1163 · 29 January 2011, 07:24 AM

why not? they are 2 different ones.

Fiery · 29 January 2011, 07:25 AM

I wouldn't, they're too similar. I'd either get a TT GMT IIC, or a WG/SS DJ II, or a Pepsi GMT II non-ceramic.

esm · 29 January 2011, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engi

I contacted Eric and saw his pic here above and then I took the decision: the SubC is different enough form the GMTIIC so I needed the SubC ...

you are correct Engi, "needed" is the right word to use in every watch purchase

mtrunner · 29 January 2011, 08:03 AM

No definitely not. They are too similar. I would go in a different direction and get something like a Daytona or maybe a Datejust II.

MortgageGuy · 29 January 2011, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

thanks for your views everyone. does anyone have any more pics of side by side comparisons? thanks in advance.

Here you go

28 January 2011, 10:59 PM	#1
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	If you have a Ss subc would you get a Ss GMT2c ...or are they too similar to justify a purchase?

28 January 2011, 11:52 PM	#14
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,258	I had a GMTIIC and I had a hard time justifying a SubC. I did very much want a SUB so I got a 16610LV because the latest version with the green dial just didn't suit me.. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

29 January 2011, 02:16 AM	#22
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	Well I have had 3 at one time...let me explain. I have the GMT IIc, had the Sub C LV and the Sub C LN... The sub LN and the GMT were too similar for my taste and to justify the expense so away the Sub C went... As for the LV, it was too green with the dial and bezel, a beautiful watch but not for me so that went too Good Luck __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

29 January 2011, 07:24 AM	#26
vuhuynh1163 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Vu Huynh Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 13	If you can afford it, why not? they are 2 different ones.

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28 January 2011, 11:05 PM	#2
Hydrographer Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Alan Location: Offshore Watch: 116610LN 116613LB Posts: 219	I have asked myself this same question a lot recently. I guess the answer is, if you want it buy it. im gonna wait until after Basel to see if rolex have sorted out the bicoloured bezel issues, and if they have I will pick up a GMT IIc with a pepsi besel, thats plenty diferent from the sub. Especialy with the PCL's

28 January 2011, 11:05 PM	#3
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	yes and no. to non WIS - yes. to WIS - no (PCL, bezel font style, 24hr hand) EDIT: picture tells a thousand words.... (diffreent colour lume too )

28 January 2011, 11:14 PM	#4
train-time 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Maryland, US Watch: less Posts: 4,199	Probably not.

28 January 2011, 11:17 PM	#5
JJL "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US Watch: 1680 Red & 16622 Posts: 2,449	Yes kind of - the way I look at it is if you only have one watch (Sub) - and youre thinking about getting a second, why get one that looks so similar to the one you already have? I only say this because there are so many other awesome models that look totally different different (ie YM, Daytona, DJ/DD, Polar Exp, etc....) or even a TT for that matter. However, if you already have a huge diverse watch collection then I wouldn't say it's an issue.

28 January 2011, 11:22 PM	#6
tfduff723 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Michigan USA Watch: Rolex & Omega 4 Me Posts: 1,685	Absolutely but in reverse! I have a GMT IIC but plan on getting a Sub C at somepoint. As the excellent picture above clearly shows they are different watches. They are similar at 1st glance but certainly very different upon further review.

28 January 2011, 11:29 PM	#8
jldc "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 464	If they appeal to you I would consider an older GMT with a Pepsi or Coke bezel (or even an Explorer II). If not, then I say go for it. Lots of people (on TRF at least) have two different Subs - surely they're even more similar than a Sub and a GMT. Look at it this way: Likely, you will be the only one who even notices your watch, so do whatever floats your boat. L

28 January 2011, 11:31 PM	#9
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,425	Yes, I have a friend who has both. Myself, I have a TT Sub C (black) and am planning to get the GMT IIc soon...

28 January 2011, 11:37 PM	#10
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 35,630	No, but mostly because I like the SubC so much more......if a 24-hour hand is important, I prefer the Explorer II to the GMTIIC....

28 January 2011, 11:47 PM	#13
cedargrove "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Rich Location: Canada Watch: Milgauss, GMT IIc Posts: 3,013	I have the GMT IIC, and would still buy both, however would want some obvious visual differences; either the LV, or possibly a bi-colour ceramic for the GMT one day.

29 January 2011, 12:09 AM	#16
Boadicea Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Daniel Location: UK Posts: 520	I dont own either, but I have been trying to get a Sub for a while now (I keep walking out with somthing else every time I go in). I think that If I had a GMT2, I would probably want a SubC as well, but if it was the other way around, I would probably not get the GMT2. For me, it is to do with the heritage of the Sub. If I am honest with myself, I will always want one, but probably not because I like it (if that makes sense).

29 January 2011, 12:31 AM	#17
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	I've had the same dilemma ! I just find them both to similar to warrant it being my second watch, it has the pull my Sub had but think I could do with something different but along the same lines if you get what I mean. In hind sight I think a better decision for me would of been a Sub LV and a GMT ! Holding out hope on a upgraded YM this year :-) Sam

29 January 2011, 12:36 AM	#18
tanndonn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: texas Watch: EXP II, 243, PO Posts: 131	The only thing from stopping me from having at least one of everything is the $$$$. I would have both if possible. Currently, my 2 'necessities' are a 16610 lv and a GMT II Pepsi, much the same as your question.

29 January 2011, 01:10 AM	#19
tdnt Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UAE Watch: GMT Master iic Posts: 121	I sometimes asked myself the reverse question "I already have a SS GMT, would I want a SS Submariner?". I have answered that question for myself....YES!!! (but I'd prefer the pre-ceramic models)

29 January 2011, 01:43 AM	#20
AIKO "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,937	No, too similar.

29 January 2011, 03:32 AM	#24
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	thanks for your views everyone. does anyone have any more pics of side by side comparisons? thanks in advance.

29 January 2011, 07:18 AM	#25
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 4,005	Too similar IMO. The thing that anoys me with the GMT is the green hand and i wish there was a choice of coloured dials like the Sub. If you got the LV it would be more different to the GMTc.

29 January 2011, 07:25 AM	#27
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	I wouldn't, they're too similar. I'd either get a TT GMT IIC, or a WG/SS DJ II, or a Pepsi GMT II non-ceramic.

29 January 2011, 08:03 AM	#29
mtrunner "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Gary Location: Bozeman, MT Watch: 126508 Paul Newman Posts: 7,836	No definitely not. They are too similar. I would go in a different direction and get something like a Daytona or maybe a Datejust II.

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